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DrWilken 2011-02-01 09:39

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by saxen (Post 933209)
in preference file i've found these 4 lines:


what i'm supposed to do with them?
thanks for help ;)

That doesn't make sense.

I would remove the file with:
Code:

root
rm /etc/apt/preferences


saxen 2011-02-01 09:44

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DrWilken (Post 933210)
That doesn't make sense.

I would remove the file with:
Code:

root
rm /etc/apt/preferences


that's what i did:
Quote:

mv preferences preferences_
and now it seems to work ;)

toxaris 2011-02-01 09:52

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Great initiative, looking forward for some nice patches.

toxaris 2011-02-01 10:07

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by erki232 (Post 933197)
Good News:) Any news SIM Toolkit? Many users need it:p
i hope to see sim toolkit some new update;)

Yea that would be a great patch/feature to include.

jhepburn 2011-02-01 10:08

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Has anyone had a problem with battery life due to the new hildon-desktop?

I noticed charged dropping roughly twice as fast with the new packages installed, reverted hildon-desktop to the old version and battery life returned to normal.

I'll file a bug if other people have encountered this, and keep looking if nobody has.

Jaffa 2011-02-01 10:11

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by toxaris (Post 933221)
Yea that would be a great patch/feature to include.

Is there such a patch which already exists?

Jaffa 2011-02-01 10:13

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jhepburn (Post 933222)
Has anyone had a problem with battery life due to the new hildon-desktop?

Not me.

Quote:

I noticed charged dropping roughly twice as fast with the new packages installed, reverted hildon-desktop to the old version and battery life returned to normal.

I'll file a bug if other people have encountered this, and keep looking if nobody has.
Thanks. Please include whether or not you are using Catorise, MyMenu, ApMeFo or anything similar; what widgets you have installed and whether it is reproducible when the desktop has no widgets on it.

jhepburn 2011-02-01 10:24

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 933227)
Thanks. Please include whether or not you are using Catorise, MyMenu, ApMeFo or anything similar; what widgets you have installed and whether it is reproducible when the desktop has no widgets on it.

And thank you for the first pointers in where to start looking!

I am using Catorise: Given enough time I'll do some playing around with packages and see if I can pin something down.

droitwichgas 2011-02-01 10:26

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Just my thoughts but is there any chance both threads regarding the CSSU could be combined into one thread as to keep a brest of things you need to check both threads. It also seems users are reporting issues on one thread which have already been dealt with on the other?

slender 2011-02-01 11:18

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Hmph...I will not even try testing before there is proper changelog. Otherwise there will be quite likely pointless conversations that could be avoided by making full changelog.

And yes I tried to understand n+1 modest stuff in Git tree and what is what and failed miserably. For example is PR 1.3 (3.4.8+0m5) same as 3.90.7 and only fixes that have been applied to community modest are "#2563 and #3700." Which description you have to separately find from git log. Or what?

Jaffa 2011-02-01 11:54

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slender (Post 933263)
Hmph...I will not even try testing before there is proper changelog. Otherwise there will be quite likely pointless conversations that could be avoided by making full changelog.

Writing the changelog is one of the many ways that people can contribute. This is not yet targetted at end users; getting such things written (beyond "move to Modest HEAD") is an important part of that process; as is putting in place the procedures to maintain it.

Thanks to merlin1991 for his start.

Quote:

I tried to understand n+1 modest stuff in Git tree and what is what and failed miserably. For example is PR 1.3 (3.4.8+0m5) same as 3.90.7 and only fixes that have been applied to community modest are "#2563 and #3700." Which description you have to separately find from git log. Or what?
Thanks for trying. I know I've heard Mohammad moaning about some of the version control practices used in some of the original upstream repos. It's probably worth a quick conversation on IRC to understand what's come from where if it's not clear in gitorious.

bald.eagle.one 2011-02-01 12:34

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
thank you all involved for your effort!
quick question:
is there any software conflicting with this update?
i mean 'optimizing' soft like MaeModder (which i was using but reverted all the changes prior to upgrading), swappolube etc..
which defenitely not to use?
cheers
eagle

Alastor89 2011-02-01 13:04

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
The only conflict that I have encountered is whit apmefo

ndi 2011-02-01 13:05

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 933178)
The Changelog is not complete. It's a nice task for someone to go through gitorious from the PR1.3 version up to HEAD and work out what's changed (hopefully debian/changelogs will help)

Ah, thanks. I hope someone with some understanding of what's going on would do that.

michaaa62 2011-02-01 13:07

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bald.eagle.one (Post 933303)
thank you all involved for your effort!
quick question:
is there any software conflicting with this update?
i mean 'optimizing' soft like MaeModder (which i was using but reverted all the changes prior to upgrading), swappolube etc..
which defenitely not to use?
cheers
eagle

Check for a corrupted /etc/apt/preferences file please, not sure about it, but removing modified-hildon-desktop [the blocking package] might leave a broken preferences file.

geekgirl74 2011-02-01 13:07

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bald.eagle.one (Post 933303)
thank you all involved for your effort!
quick question:
is there any software conflicting with this update?
i mean 'optimizing' soft like MaeModder (which i was using but reverted all the changes prior to upgrading), swappolube etc..
which defenitely not to use?
cheers
eagle

I have installed tons of programs (including MaeModder and swappolube) and so far had no problems (except for fiddling for a few hours with the installation of the CSSU itself, but that was my mistake, as I tried it with FAM). If you have MaeModder installed the MAG hildon desktop shouldn't be applied, as it conflicts with the CSSU (dunno, where I read that, but I didn't bother to keep MAG hildon desktop, so I revoked it).

Jaffa 2011-02-01 13:19

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ndi (Post 933319)
Ah, thanks. I hope someone with some understanding of what's going on would do that.

Well, even compiling the contents of debian/changelog and git log between the version installed in PR1.3 and the gitorious.org/community-ssu version would be an enormous start. This isn't technical.

There is a semi-technical aspect, in particular in the modest case, to identify what exactly PR1.3 shipped. But MohammadAG can help answer any questions there.

ndi 2011-02-01 13:28

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 933331)
Well, even compiling the contents of debian/changelog and git log between the version installed in PR1.3 and the gitorious.org/community-ssu version would be an enormous start. This isn't technical.

There is a semi-technical aspect, in particular in the modest case, to identify what exactly PR1.3 shipped. But MohammadAG can help answer any questions there.

Well, not highly technical, still, one needs to understand what's going on before doing things.

Also, wo-ho-ho, that's got to be bad for my cholesterol it's so smooth. Thank you dad, kids.

I do have *some* strange behavior. Other than the previously stated shortcuts-don't-close-the-link-window, my Microb also lost the ability to deliver a progress bar. When a page loads, the bar keeps going left-right, like it's still connecting. As a result, no progress, bar never goes down. Also, the address is the one that first started the link, not the current one.

Right now the window I type in goes left-right and says "http://talk.maemo.org/" instead or /reply or what's its name.

Known? I'll reboot again and pull battery.

ETA: Pulling battery fixed it.

hardkorek 2011-02-01 13:56

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hawaii (Post 932165)
The back-ported Modest package does NOT send attachments properly, nor does it register CTRL+CR as "Send" e-mail. Whether this is can be set outside of the source (a gconf variable) is something else.

I had this same issue with the 3.x tree of Modest over 3 months ago. I think it needs to be pulled until the attachment issue is sorted.


I have the same problem. How to create a bug report?

Jaffa 2011-02-01 13:58

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hardkorek (Post 933363)
I have the same problem. How to create a bug report?

It has already been raised. You can vote on it, track progress and provide additional information necessary to fix it at https://bugs.maemo.org/11844

Shinigamijim 2011-02-01 18:13

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
i just update no problmes..... , i dont see any major chang fromwhat it was before, just some reaarange from task manager.

dtergens 2011-02-01 18:22

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Lol, you make my wish come true... http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...3&postcount=12 :D

Keep the good work ! :)

anidel 2011-02-02 02:33

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
So as some know, I installed the CSSU.
I noticed the feature provided by hildon-status-menu was not present.

So I went to the terminal and noticed that these packages were kept back:

hildon-application-manager hildon-desktop hildon-home hildon-status-menu lisdl-mixer1.2 libvte-common libvte4 modest

and if I tried installing one of those it would always try to remove mp-fremantle-generic-pr (bad thing).

Hints?

Mentalist Traceur 2011-02-02 02:43

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by anidel (Post 933803)
So as some know, I installed the CSSU.
I noticed the feature provided by hildon-status-menu was not present.

So I went to the terminal and noticed that these packages were kept back:

hildon-application-manager hildon-desktop hildon-home hildon-status-menu lisdl-mixer1.2 libvte-common libvte4 modest

and if I tried installing one of those it would always try to remove mp-fremantle-generic-pr (bad thing).

Hints?

Try reinstalling the CSSU? I thought the CSSU was supposed to already replace mp-fremantle-generic-pr with its own equivalent?

anidel 2011-02-02 02:49

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Will try...

UPDATE: Actually I totally missed the step that says to actually RUN the Community Update "enabler"... ops

Shinigamijim 2011-02-02 03:20

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
idk if this used to happend before but now i notice it where often:
when oppening a webpage from desktop the system itself opens web ( you the little page with all your bookmarks ) it just do it when i open the first one the rest are all fine when i click on them nothing opens.

Sealine 2011-02-02 03:25

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
hello, i have a question. i am not an extreme user or developer of n900, but i would like to learn about new things because n900 is a great mobile, can i use ssu? or my system will become unstable?

jerryfreak 2011-02-02 04:02

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
two bugs ive noticed:

-when i click on webpage shortcuts on the desktop they open up, but also open an additional generic 'web' window

-power consumption is way up. phone cant make it thru the day and its just sitting idle getting emails and sms messages, i havent done anything all day and its dead in 12 hours

jerryfreak 2011-02-02 04:06

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaffa (Post 933227)
Thanks. Please include whether or not you are using Catorise, MyMenu, ApMeFo or anything similar; what widgets you have installed and whether it is reproducible when the desktop has no widgets on it.

re: my bad battery life, i have MyContacts, TVoutcontrol, FMRDS, FMTX, and a few beecons as widgets. ill try to remove them one by one and see if it makes a difference.

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-02 04:10

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sealine (Post 933827)
hello, i have a question. i am not an extreme user or developer of n900, but i would like to learn about new things because n900 is a great mobile, can i use ssu? or my system will become unstable?

HI... I am not a developer or in any way close to a POWER USER as well... Most of the things i did was based on lots of reading here and the kind supportive help from the people in this community.

If you've just ventured into the N900 extra-devels or testings repos without facing much of a problem, flashing the device is no-problemo, and fixing things via Xterm and things like 'apt-get' or 'sudo' isn't jargon to you, then I would say give it a try then. I did and I don't feel like there's anything too big of a problem happening.

DO take note that there ARE problems. like modest being an issue, some even complain about simple UI things like shortcuts and stuff are problematic (though there's a solution to it via gconf to the hildon key schemas) and things like shortcutd and camkeyd not working (i have no experience of this though).

If you find these risks mentioned above is no barring for 'curiosity' (hehehe... it was for me anyway..)

then go ahead!

but remember! read the disclaimer at the front page! no one is responsible!

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-02 04:19

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 933835)
two bugs ive noticed:

-when i click on webpage shortcuts on the desktop they open up, but also open an additional generic 'web' window

-power consumption is way up. phone cant make it thru the day and its just sitting idle getting emails and sms messages, i havent done anything all day and its dead in 12 hours

wow...

1. my microb seems to be working normally... i click on the web shortcut and the bookmarks window appear. no empty generic window of any kind though... in fact... I feel the microb to be EXTRA responsive after this CSSU thingy... hehehe

2. power consumption... i don't find it any lower with my current settings... I have facebook widget, calendar, conversations, dataplan monitor, systemui monitor... i think these are the only ones that use up cpu every now and then... i've been using it EXTRA these few days thanks to this new update and trying things out.... it lasts me for a full day... i have to recharge probably just after 24 hours.. I can't say that it has dropped BECAUSE of the CSSU but i can definitely say that there is NO Improvement in battery life.

meLi 2011-02-02 06:07

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Hi,

Anyone know how to uninstall CSSU ?

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 07:06

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
probably you need to restore the backup you took before installing? i'm guessing that's why it suggests to take one.

what is up with this?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=50

i don't see that...

poogash 2011-02-02 07:17

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by meLi (Post 933901)
Hi,

Anyone know how to uninstall CSSU ?

yeah click power search to the right and type in your question

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 07:25

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
uhhh, generally that's good advice, but i don't think anyone has asked that one yet :)
it's not like uninstalling a normal app, because it triggers a bunch of other things to get installed. so uninstalling might be unsupported, although if they can tell us what the problem is, we can probably suggest something better than a reflash.

cjp 2011-02-02 07:27

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 933919)
probably you need to restore the backup you took before installing? i'm guessing that's why it suggests to take one.

what is up with this?

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...8&postcount=50

i don't see that...

The portrait status bar is only accessible through the Phone app.

I had to remove the community SSU as I had Modest crashing on me just a bit too much. Will try to keep up with updates and I'm definitely all for this project!

Creamy Goodness 2011-02-02 07:38

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
yeah the mail app does seem kind-of messed up. sent a test message fine, if you don't count the attachment or message text :\

cloud596 2011-02-02 08:07

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
I installed it today and there is no problem with ctrl + backspace shortcut keyboard for xterminal.
dunno.
seem its been fix.

colm.smyth 2011-02-02 08:29

Re: The in-development Maemo 5 Community SSU
 
Hey all,

Firstly let me say that this is a great step for the community to be able to provide these updates.

However I do have a concern, these updates show up automatically and one could accidentally hit update all and this would install. For me I do not want to install this just yet, I would rather wait out a couple of these and install when some of the kinks are worked out.

I think there should be another way to install this, perhaps remove from the auto update until its a bit further along.

I also read in places people having to run comparability test or something like that, however if this update becomes available and a user clicks install, that should be it.
It should ask you to back everything up, then upgrade the OS and then you should be left with your phone "Exactly" as it was just with the updated OS.
You should not have to do anything else at all.

As I said, this is great stuff to see, but for me ill stick out this one, I finally have my N900 in a happy place so dont want to risk mucking it up

Dark_Angel85 2011-02-02 08:42

Re: [Council] Maemo 5 gets community OS updates
 
yeah... modest is so far the only thing that doesn't work for me


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