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zimon 2011-01-18 15:46

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
USB- and Bluetooth-networking is challenging to set up in the first time, but the reward is worth it.

Rob1n 2011-01-19 09:46

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zimon (Post 923078)
And then some ppl still ask why Meego (and LSB) use and prefer rpm-package system and not deb.

Why, do you think that RPMs magically avoid having dependencies? There's pretty much zero difference between what an RPM and a DEB file are capable of containing - most of the issues people have with one or the other are down to the tools being used rather than the packages themselves.

D4rKlar 2011-01-19 09:59

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
Every app in the repo has a package page, do a google search for the name of the app + package + maemo.

For example this is the package page for Theme Customizer:

http://maemo.org/packages/view/theme-customizer/

If you follow any free armel link (either extras, testing or devel) you'll arrive at the package instance page where you can directly download the deb for that particular package.

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...omizer/0.9-65/

Kind Regards,
D4rKlar

Boemien 2011-01-19 10:44

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by D4rKlar (Post 923655)
Every app in the repo has a package page, do a google search for the name of the app + package + maemo.

For example this is the package page for Theme Customizer:

http://maemo.org/packages/view/theme-customizer/

If you follow any free armel link (either extras, testing or devel) you'll arrive at the package instance page where you can directly download the deb for that particular package.

http://maemo.org/packages/package_in...omizer/0.9-65/

Kind Regards,
D4rKlar

I think that it's not as easy as you write. Because each package depends of another package. I Mean, each dependencies lacks another dependencies that you will be obliged to download, and at the end, you remark that this new file depends of another dependencies. :eek: :eek:

retsaw 2011-01-19 12:03

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
If you use apt-get in the Terrminal you can type "apt-get install <nameofpackage> --print-uris"

The "--print-uris" part of the command instructs apt to just print the download location, size, and hash (to verify the download) of each file you need to download instead of actually downloading and installing the files. You could redirect the output to a text file and move that to a computer where you can download the files, you can then install them manually with dpkg after you have downloaded them and copied them to the N900.

try-alls 2011-01-19 12:16

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
would this be possible on ovi store for example;
you get a limit to how many times you can download a app etc but what happens when you reach said limit an you desperately need to re-flash, an then you go to add your fave game/app from ovi only to find your DL limit is up

retsaw 2011-01-19 12:41

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
No, but when downloading paid apps from the Ovi store before installation they get saved in /home/user/MyDocs/.tmp, copy the file elsewhere to keep as a backup before telling the App Manager to install it.

cheve 2011-01-19 14:01

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by retsaw (Post 923740)
If you use apt-get in the Terrminal you can type "apt-get install <nameofpackage> --print-uris"

noop question:(, would one change the repository for apt-get on a linux box(say Ubuntu) to pointing to the maemo repository and then execute the apt-get to download the packages(with all dependence).

cheers,

retsaw 2011-01-19 16:09

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
No, if it worked at all it'd just mess up your Ubuntu install.

You just run that command on your N900 and if you wanted its output to go in a text file you'd append something like ">/home/user/MyDocs/packages.txt" to redirect the output to a file called "packages.txt" on your MyDocs partition.

zimon 2011-01-19 16:16

Re: Is it possible to download applications on pc and then install locally on the n900?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob1n (Post 923652)
Why, do you think that RPMs magically avoid having dependencies? There's pretty much zero difference between what an RPM and a DEB file are capable of containing - most of the issues people have with one or the other are down to the tools being used rather than the packages themselves.

I was referring (but not mentioning) to the fact that doing package install that way (dpkg -i) one doesn't check the authenticity of the package in any way. If it would be a rpm-package instead, the GPG-signature would come embedded and would be checked automatically before installation (rpm -i).
Dependency-wise the two system are identical, but not security-wise.


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