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Netweaver 2011-01-20 20:49
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
the smoking gun ??? : Onkalo Samu.P (Nokia-MS/Tampere)
is the one responsible back in Sept. (at least back then) :
http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/3/58

Nvidia also seemed to be very involved with this magnetometer chip kernel driver source ...

buchanmilne 2011-01-20 20:54
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by msnbcnnbcbs (Post 924886)
kernel-adaptation-medfield.i586 2.6.35.3-9.1
xorg-x11-server-Xorg-setuid.i586 1.9.0-7.7
mesa-libGL.i586 7.9-2.28
glibc.i686 2.11.90-22.12
meegotouch-compositor.i586 0.8.0-1.22
Of course Meego targets Intel platforms, otherwise, what would be the point of it not being Maemo6?

Of course there are Intel kernel adaptions, there is an Intel-based reference handset, as well as an arm-based Nokia reference handset (which many of us have).

Of course Intel would like to see commercial launches of Meego-powered handsets with Intel CPUs.

But, none of that necessarily has anything to do with what Meego handset Nokia will be launching (which will most likely be ARM-based).

Honestly, it seems people don't even apply logic and reasoning.

Now, the real question would be about a Nokia tablet-like device.

One also wonders if a architecture agnostic "binaries" aren't a good idea for a multi-architecture project, or will there be an Intel vs ARM dichotomy of (proprietary) apps and apps stores for Meego?

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 21:09
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
nokia and intel have to get meego ready for the launch devices
they HAVE to add kernel patches and drivers
we CAN tell what the prototype devices include by looking at the source tree and testing results and bug reports.
it's possible these prototypes are not "final" but they are going to be pretty close by now. my logic and reasoning is better than yours :)

Netweaver 2011-01-20 21:10
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
One also wonders if a architecture agnostic "binaries" aren't a good idea for a multi-architecture project, or will there be an Intel vs ARM dichotomy of (proprietary) apps and apps stores for Meego?
You're not referring to a cross-architecture, device agnostic 'language' based on a certain 'dalvik' I hope ? :)

Apart from that I think you're right. the physical dependency of the binary to the architecture is not good for the unity and uptake of Meego. Then again, proper procedures and a proper common build service (one or more OBSes) will prevent that as much as possible.

I saw discussions on the meego-dev list talking about this exact mixture of closed and open source binaries, for multiple architectures, in one build service. So they tried to do the proper thing :)

Netweaver 2011-01-20 21:18
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
don't forget Maemo6/Harmattan is NOT Meego 1.2 or Meego 1.3. It will just be able to run the same software. Marketing wise it a "Meego instance". Deep down Nokia was too far ahead to wait till Meego was finally coming to age. So the N9 (whatever it's name will be) doesn't have to exist FULLY in the Meego kernel tree NOW.

But I do expect that Nokia is merging as much as possible of the current N9 product specifics already in, to get a proper unified kernel, maybe to include after launch in a PR.

Better to get rid of dual kernel code base as soon as possible, without killing off the already narrow timelines.

HellFlyer 2011-01-20 21:19
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 924807)
Why should I provide links to publicly available logs, they are no harder to find than that engadget article.:)
Spoon fed generation need to learn how to research for themselves instead of using RSS feeds to the latest tech site blog rumours.:D
no offence intended ;)
Non taken ;) since I know what you mean and feeding rumor mill is not what I was intented to do. Engadget's problem (just like a lot of other US tech "news" sites is that they twist and alter Nokia related news.
That beign said I think we will see an Atom based Nokia device (remember Nokia's netbook?) but not a phone!

Stskeeps 2011-01-20 21:26
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 924685)
Not true - they have been working on x86 from the start (see Aava Mobile). If true, I would not be surprised as the x86 handset build seems to be a lot further along than the ARM version. I remember Stskeeps saying a while back that for whatever reason they have encountered all kinds of problems that the x86 team has not.
We're pretty much equally screwed/good (X86 and ARM) these days, comparable build times, similar issues, etc. There's always a bit of fun in porting.

I still maintain that people ought to see how "dangerous" (for competitors) it is when Nokia can practically merge together Nokia's MeeGo-based OS + MeeGo Core + a hardware adaptation, in very little time, to deploy on new types of devices, processors, form factors.

Example could be: Existing stack of Qt applications/Nokia differentation, make a MeeGo hardware adaptation for device, test, ship..

It makes R&D a lot easier having a portable platform.

bchliu 2011-01-20 21:26
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by buchanmilne (Post 924936)

One also wonders if a architecture agnostic "binaries" aren't a good idea for a multi-architecture project, or will there be an Intel vs ARM dichotomy of (proprietary) apps and apps stores for Meego?
Thats where QT comes in.. :) Code portability.. between ARM S^3, ARM Maemo, ARM Meego and x86 Meego..

They'd have to be to remain competitive since everything else is going this direction. In fact, I'm willing to bet they will go one step further and come up with a QT JIT to standardise not just code - but binaries across the board as much as Android does the same way.

Even Microsoft is going this way with Windows 8 being announced for ARM. The market is moving in this direction for everything (even Apple has Rosetta Stone for universal binaries with x86/PPC for years now since they moved to x86).

Rauha 2011-01-20 21:27
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 924934)
the smoking gun ??? : Onkalo Samu.P (Nokia-MS/Tampere)
is the one responsible back in Sept. (at least back then) :
http://lkml.org/lkml/2010/9/3/58

Nvidia also seemed to be very involved with this magnetometer chip kernel driver source ...
Dig into meego.com bug and mailing lists, and you'll find plenty of Nokia engineers located in various Nokia research centers in Finland doing stuff with Atom/Medfield . Curiously their testing and bug reporting has really ramped up since November.

That of course doesn't as us such mean that N9 will be Atom based.

retsaw 2011-01-20 21:28
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 924929)
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3696/i...e-processor/16

there's no reason not to believe intel can't beat ARM in performance and power savings, they have the best technology and most R&D money. Just worry about MeeGo and hope Intel & Nokia know what they're doing with the hardware.
The x86 compatibility gives Intel quite a handicap here, maybe Intel can overcome it, but ARM currently has the advantage when it comes to low power CPUs.

Netweaver 2011-01-20 21:35
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
nCDK is certainly an intel Medfield based handset, as per details in this bug report :

http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-15789

mikecomputing 2011-01-20 21:39
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 924978)
nCDK is certainly an intel Medfield based handset, as per details in this bug report :

http://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTBUG-15789
THAT we already know ;) see qa report. But more intresting is if its N9 :-P

mrojas 2011-01-20 21:50
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Anyone remembers this?

http://mynokiablog.com/wp-content/up.../tablet_19.jpg

I bet that the first MeeGo tablet will run in x86. It will make sense, since the form factor allows a bigger battery, and Intel seems to have been testing some MeeGo UI for tablets already (http://mynokiablog.com/2010/06/01/new-meego-tablet-ui/).

Every piece of know-how they get through this tablet can then easily go towards a x86 phone (if they eventually decide to make one); which could arrive in H2 2011 (fitting the schedules mentioned before).

If the N9 is going to be launched anytime soon; then the hardware should be decided already and getting ready to be mass produced.

(Credits to MyNokiaBlog for the picture)

kingoddball 2011-01-20 21:54
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Lies.......

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 22:08
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
ncdk is a handest. its at the link i posted earlier running handest tests and getting bug reports to do with calls and SMS. they have 3 revisions listed (EB1 EB2 EB3). It has to be close to final by now. I even gave you the screen size and keyboard and sensor info, and still you want to argue it's "something else".
I give up.

mrojas 2011-01-20 22:17
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 924997)
ncdk is a handest. its at the link i posted earlier running handest tests and getting bug reports to do with calls and SMS. they have 3 revisions listed (EB1 EB2 EB3). It has to be close to final by now. I even gave you the screen size and keyboard and sensor info, and still you want to argue it's "something else".
I give up.
The "final" in "close to final" can get very long. There is a reason why calls and SMS get debugged first; it's because they give the biggest revenue to carriers, so they can't fail, ever. Even considering that the handset have been thoroughly debugged; they still need to do live tests, durability, factories, marketing, etc etc

All that can easily take months. That's why I believe the N9, based on ARM will be launched in Q3 2011, followed by an x86 tablet with voice capabilities in mid 2011, and a new x86 phone for Q3 2011.

What delayed them? Getting Qt and UX's unified correctly so customers and developers can transition between devices with minimum hassle.

Pure speculation on my part, btw.

mikecomputing 2011-01-20 22:23
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bchliu (Post 924968)
They'd have to be to remain competitive since everything else is going this direction. In fact, I'm willing to bet they will go one step further and come up with a QT JIT to standardise not just code - but binaries across the board as much as Android does the same way.

QML is the answer to JIT ;)

Netweaver 2011-01-20 22:30
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
the nCDK runs at stock (max.) speed at 1.6 Ghz.
Source : http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12418

Look in the 2nd attachment, the powertop log. :
Quote:
Your CPU supports the following C-states : C1 C2 C4
Your BIOS reports the following C-states : C1 C2 C4
Cn Avg residency
C0 (cpu running) ( 0.0%)
polling 1.0ms ( 0.0%)
C1 mwait 0.1ms ( 0.1%)
C2 mwait 0.7ms ( 2.1%)
C4 mwait 7.5ms (103.6%)
P-states (frequencies)
1.60 Ghz 5.4%
1300 Mhz 0.2%
1100 Mhz 11.8%
900 Mhz 0.0%
600 Mhz 82.6%
Also, in the same log, plenty of technical drivers / chipnames, ready for translation in proper specs, some copied below:

[QUOTE]100.0% i2c:lis3lv02d
0.0% i2c:i2c_ledflash
0.0% 00:04.2 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0822
0.0% 00:04.1 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0821
0.0% 00:04.0 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0820
0.
Quote:
0% 00:03.4 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 0819
0.0% 00:03.3 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 0818
0.0% 00:03.2 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 0817
0.0% 00:03.1 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 0816
0.0% 00:02.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 0832
0.0% 00:02.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 0830
0.0% 00:02.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 0827
0.0% 00:02.3 USB Controller: Intel Corporation Device 0829
0.0% 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 0130
0.0% 00:01.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 0825
0.0% 00:01.3 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation Device 082f
0.0% 00:01.1 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0824
0.0% 00:01.0 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0823
0.0% 00:00.5 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 082e
0.0% 00:00.4 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 082d
0.0% 00:00.3 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Device 082c

Devices without runtime PM
i2c:i2c_TC35894-nEB1
i2c:ak8975

i2c:i2c_cam2_img_sen
i2c:LW45-motor
i2c:LW45-sensor

i2c:i2c_msic_hdmi

i2c:pn544

i2c:ECI-nEB1
i2c:Sil9234-nEB1
i2c:i2c_fm
i2c:bcm4751-gps

i2c:bh1770glc
i2c:lp5523
i2c:mXT224
I'm sure there're still plenty of goodies to find in other bug details :D

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 22:33
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrojas (Post 925002)
The "final" in "close to final" can get very long. There is a reason why calls and SMS get debugged first; it's because they give the biggest revenue to carriers, so they can't fail, ever. Even considering that the handset have been thoroughly debugged; they still need to do live tests, durability, factories, marketing, etc etc

All that can easily take months. That's why I believe the N9, based on ARM will be launched in Q3 2011, followed by an x86 tablet with voice capabilities in mid 2011, and a new x86 phone for Q3 2011.

What delayed them? Getting Qt and UX's unified correctly so customers and developers can transition between devices with minimum hassle.

Pure speculation on my part, btw.

I see, so you think that Nokia, that will barely admit to the importance of MeeGo, actually is developing two MeeGo phones... And also is so insane they decided to skip making prototypes and testing of the N9, and will just test the n900 and this intel phone. Because that is exactly what you are implying when you say that this is not the N9 prototype...

NvyUs 2011-01-20 22:34
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
b/c its running handset UX does not mean its a handset and not a tablet, there's no official Tablet UX yet

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 22:36
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 925017)
the nCDK runs at stock (max.) speed at 1.6 Ghz.
Source : http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12418

Look in the 2nd attachment, the powertop log. :

Also, in the same log, plenty of technical drivers / chipnames, ready for translation in proper specs, some copied below:

Quote:
100.0% i2c:lis3lv02d
0.0% i2c:i2c_ledflash
0.0% 00:04.2 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0822
0.0% 00:04.1 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0821
0.0% 00:04.0 SD Host controller: Intel Corporation Device 0820
0.

I'm sure there're still plenty of goodies to find in other bug details :D
good work man, i didn't believe the 1.2Ghz speed either, I couldn't find the cpu speeds when i searched though.
1.2Ghz is the MINIMUM speed for any intel cpu based on the previous platform, so I was hoping they'd raised it for this one.

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 22:41
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 925020)
b/c its running handset UX does not mean its a handset and not a tablet, there's no official Tablet UX yet
???
if its able to run the damn tests its obviously a handset
Send SMS (2G & 3G) (based on real modem) Pass

Receive SMS (2G & 3G) (based on real modem) Pass

Check message history (received, sent, draft) Pass

http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Hand...test-set-10496

what is it, the worlds first tablet that does SMS and voice calls? you hold it up to your ear or just yell at the table it's on?

mrojas 2011-01-20 22:43
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 925019)
I see, so you think that Nokia, that will barely admit to the importance of MeeGo, actually is developing two MeeGo phones... And also is so insane they decided to skip making prototypes and testing of the N9, and will just test the n900 and this intel phone. Because that is exactly what you are implying when you say that this is not the N9 prototype...
Nokia is know to have multiple phones, so I don't find hard to believe they have multiple prototypes. What I imply is that, if the N9 is going to be released anytime soon (let's say, Q3 2011); then it can't be so late on its development stage that they are just debugging calls and SMS. Or worse, it shouldn't be so late. Unless they scrapped everything and started from zero (UI, MeeGo 1.2, chipset, etc).

mrojas 2011-01-20 22:44
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 925024)
what is it, the worlds first tablet that does SMS and voice calls? you hold it up to your ear or just yell at the table it's on?
They could include a nice Bluetooth headset with the package...

NvyUs 2011-01-20 22:49
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 925024)
???
if its able to run the damn tests its obviously a handset
Send SMS (2G & 3G) (based on real modem) Pass

Receive SMS (2G & 3G) (based on real modem) Pass

Check message history (received, sent, draft) Pass

http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Hand...test-set-10496

what is it, the worlds first tablet that does SMS and voice calls? you hold it up to your ear or just yell at the table it's on?
theres many 7 inch android tablets able to do such things so why not MeeGo

Au{R}oN 2011-01-20 23:00
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Atom mean uber graphic.

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 23:02
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
no its GMA600 based, thats a 4 pipeline 400mhz gpu built in, according to the kernel patches. but they might enhance the hardware further to a higher speed. it supports directx 10.1 and opengl, and is licensed from powerVR or whatever. and THAT means uber graphic :)

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 23:07
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 925030)
theres many 7 inch android tablets able to do such things so why not MeeGo
okay fine
its a 1.8" by 3.4" screen
prove me wrong

http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouc...gets/nCDK.conf

you can calculate it by the ppi and resolution there

wmarone 2011-01-20 23:16
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Creamy Goodness (Post 925034)
okay fine
its a 1.8" by 3.4" screen
prove me wrong

http://meego.gitorious.org/meegotouc...gets/nCDK.conf

you can calculate it by the ppi and resolution there
That's a disappointing screen size and resolution :/

Should clarify: I hope that is simply the display for the devkit and not the display on an actual device. I pine for a 4.3" display!

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 23:20
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
well it sounds bad, but its basically the same as we have now, just a bit higher. Maybe its gonna get bigger on another prototype :)

Netweaver 2011-01-20 23:28
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
some more info, I do recall having seen a China sourced picture of a Nokia device showing "C0" as the model name. I can't find the picture back directly for it and looks like it was the real deal after all, at least for the nCDK, who knows for the N9 :D

Source : http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10385 Comment 6

Quote:
...
The display device origin on the nCDK is located in the same corner as the "C0" label on the display surface, making it's nominal orientation Portrait.
...
Funny, all this activity, all these hints everywhere. And it would be only for the (N9+1) nth generation device ? Hard to believe ...

Rauha 2011-01-20 23:38
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 925040)
That's a disappointing screen size and resolution :/
That would be about 4" screen. Perfectly fine size for smartphone screen.

Screen sizes are reported diagonal.
http://i55.tinypic.com/2573a6a.jpg

ericsson 2011-01-20 23:42
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Intel is the logical choice for the N9 and MeeGo. But logic has never stopped Nokia from making weird stuff :)

NvyUs 2011-01-20 23:45
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
here is a conversation about nCDK when it was first introduced in the meego QA meeting
not sure it sheds much light on anything but its interesting
iCDK is publicly available version of nCDK
none will be the N9-00 sound like they are reference platforms for development along with the N900
Code:
07:27:49 <V-PV> #topic New Reference HW added for Core and Handheld UX
07:28:00 <vilvo> sure
07:28:17 <V-PV> #info We have new reference HW in use for Core and Handheld UX in 1.2, called nCDK
07:28:22 <Tahvo> May: I need your input too...
07:28:31 <V-PV> #info first test results are already in qa-reports
07:29:01 <May> yes. nCDK and also iCDK are new reference platform for 1.2
07:29:30 <V-PV> Right, I forgot the iCDK, sorry. :-)
07:30:15 <V-PV> #info iCDK is "publicly available version of nCDK"
07:30:29 <V-PV> Any questions / comments about this topic
07:30:50 <V-PV> I think valhalla_ will tell more about this today in TSG meeting (I hope).
07:31:01 <May> We already have test plan in place to test nCDK and iCDK, so no questions from my side.
07:31:32 <V-PV> But anyhow, so that you do not wonder, we have added one (or actyally two) HWs to MeeGo 1.2
07:31:44 <Aparna> is there going to be a variant platform for iCDK?
07:31:51 <Stskeeps> i'm happy since we'll have a IA target to compare n900 tests with again finally :)
07:32:21 <V-PV> #info nCDK and iCDK are IA based platforms
07:32:21 <yppaper> what is the "priority one" device to be used?
07:32:22 <May> Aparna, not clear to me.
07:32:57 <V-PV> #info nCDK is priority platform for QA
07:33:04 <Aparna> Are we going to have separate images for iCDK or the same MeeGo public image should work
07:33:24 <May> As i know same image.
07:33:26 <V-PV> Aparna: We will have separate images
07:33:40 <May> Different answers :)
07:33:51 <V-PV> May: do you mean for iCDK and nCDK having same image?
07:33:57 <May> Yes.
07:34:14 <V-PV> N900 is ARM and nCDK is IA, definetly different image :-)
07:34:18 <V-PV> May: Ok
07:34:36 <V-PV> Next toppic then

wmarone 2011-01-20 23:52
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 925052)
That would be about 4" screen. Perfectly fine size for smartphone screen.

Screen sizes are reported diagonal.
I know. And if you look at the N900's conf file, it's lower DPI but a touch higher resolution. So it's ~4" but no real increase in DPI like the jump for the iPhone 4, which I had kinda hoped for.

Of course, the Blaze SDK has similar panels and that says nothing about any handsets based on the OMAP4 so I'm not going to bank on anything here.

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-20 23:53
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Netweaver (Post 925047)
some more info, I do recall having seen a China sourced picture of a Nokia device showing "C0" as the model name. I can't find the picture back directly for it and looks like it was the real deal after all, at least for the nCDK, who knows for the N9 :D

Source : http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10385 Comment 6

Funny, all this activity, all these hints everywhere. And it would be only for the (N9+1) nth generation device ? Hard to believe ...
That c0 phone with the leaked pics rumored to be the n9 was definitely running symbian though...

NvyUs 2011-01-20 23:58
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
it turned out to be the E7 that proto what leaked with C0 on it

any way why have they dropped using the AAVA atom devices and moved to new references devices for 1.2 development is the question i want to know :eek:

Maybe AAVA found someone willing to commercialise their devices?

Creamy Goodness 2011-01-21 00:04
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 925057)
here is a conversation about nCDK when it was first introduced in the meego QA meeting
not sure it sheds much light on anything but its interesting
iCDK is publicly available version of nCDK
none will be the N9-00 sound like they are reference platforms for development along with the N900
...
reference platform doesn't mean it's not going to make it to retail / production
look at google nexus phone

maxximuscool 2011-01-21 00:09
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
N9 will fail if it is running Atom CPU :(
*battery hogging
*Bad Architecture for mobile
*Heat SINK needed
*Crashes
*Slow
*HD ready? rec and enc


I prefer ARM CPU instead.. DUAL CORES!!! MMMMmmm

wmarone 2011-01-21 00:10
Re: Rumor: N9 to have 1.2Ghz Atom
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by NvyUs (Post 925068)
it turned out to be the E7 that proto what leaked with C0 on it

any way why have they dropped using the AAVA atom devices and moved to new references devices for 1.2 development is the question i want to know :eek:

Maybe AAVA found someone willing to commercialise their devices?
Honestly I have yet to see anything that says these aren't just code names for the Aava platforms. They even have a 2nd gen coming that Nokia et. al. could easily get their hands on early in the dev cycle. And yes I'm aware there's a seperate .conf for aava, but there's also no "iCDK" conf ;)


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