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cfh11 2011-01-23 15:27
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 926555)
2. Nokia has announced they will ship a device with this platform in 2011. An announcement made only two months ago.
....source?

cfh11 2011-01-23 15:28
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 926657)
Exactly, and it will be called N9. I hope it is the one in all the pics (with HW keyboard), who knows? But, the thing is, the U8500 architecture runs MeeGo with the same ease as it does Symbian, and so will the N9. The N9 will be a Symbian device with the ability to run MeeGo. There is no other logic explanation.
your definition of logic is illogical

leetut 2011-01-23 15:58
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
well if the iphone 5 is released before the n9 ill be getting one of those instead, nokia's loss for not keeping up with the times i guess

ericsson 2011-01-23 16:27
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 926757)
....source?
Try reading the first post in the thread instead of pretending to be oh so important.

ste-phan 2011-01-23 16:37
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
The N900's successor should kick all smartphone's butt. Neither of both speculated processors can guarantee that.

I'd say, as long as the upcoming Duke Nukem Forever port runs 60 fps average in full HD in portret mode and one can finish the single player on one charge, the device will be instant buy! ;)

m4r0v3r 2011-01-23 16:45
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
the important thing in that video is that there's an xterm in Meego

v13 2011-01-23 17:14
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Fan thought of the day:

It is most probably that N9 (or what'ever the N900's successor's name is) will be released after the IANA's IPv4 address pool will be depleted (less than 10 days remain). It is ironic that most probably it won't have IPv6 support :-)

cfh11 2011-01-23 17:52
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 926785)
Try reading the first post in the thread instead of pretending to be oh so important.
that guy works for st ericsson NOT nokia. try getting your facts straight before pretending to be oh so important.

ericsson 2011-01-23 18:08
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cfh11 (Post 926844)
that guy works for st ericsson NOT nokia. try getting your facts straight before pretending to be oh so important.
Where the guy works is irrelevant, but that is only obvious if you take time to read the link and see the videos.

NvyUs 2011-01-23 18:09
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
back in december a Nokia executive announced that in 2011 these things will arrive:

half 1 will bring 1GHz CPU's and boosted graphics chips
half 2 will bring dual core CPU's and true zoom cameras
New Symbian UI rolls out over the year with 50 new enhancements/features

many blogs quoted that these things are for symbian but that was never said ppl just assumed that b/c the new UI rollout plan was announced.

there is many sources with nokias plan for 2011

gerbick 2011-01-23 19:00
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 926550)
We'll hopefully see the whole range of ARM SoC's like Qualcomm, Broadcom, TI OMAP4, nVidia Tegra2, Marvell's chips soon in hardware adaptations.

And everyone can build products using those.
Has there ever been a device ever made from those? One that was shown, shipped and sold?

Stskeeps 2011-01-23 19:14
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 926883)
Has there ever been a device ever made from those? One that was shown, shipped and sold?
Uhm, those chips? Yes? Qualcomm: Most of Android phones? TI OMAP4? Pandaboard? Tegra2? You haven't been reading engadget. Etc.

If you're talking about hardware adaptations for those chips in MeeGo in products, then no, not yet (I thought it was clear that I was talking about future things)

My point was that you can't say any hardware adaptation in MeeGo distribution = what Nokia will base products on.

gerbick 2011-01-23 19:56
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 926892)
If you're talking about hardware adaptations for those chips in MeeGo in products, then no, not yet (I thought it was clear that I was talking about future things)
Thanks for the answer. Mentioning possibilities is absolutely useless when it's never happened, it more than likely will not happen and more importantly the main release hasn't happened yet either.

Sorry to sound harsh; however realistically the "it will happen" or "it may happen" type of mentality has netted absolutely nothing so far.

And it's not about proving me wrong - the releases echo my point moreso than yours - but it's all about what has honestly happened so far. And that has been an unofficially supported release on the N900, quite a bit of activity by no real release that's usable 100% per day - lack of vendors with actual apps is the key to my stance there - and... well, wiki links.

Great.

volt 2011-01-24 14:54
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mikecomputing (Post 926647)
symbian is still main OS at Nokia dont forget that fact. It may change in a year when meego is more staabilized. but not 2011.
It will not change in 2012. There are sold more phones with Symbian than ANY OTHER PHONE OS, and the sale numbers of Q4 is, if I remember correctly, the highest, ever. Nokia has given NO indication that MeeGo will replace Symbian, on the other hand they have strongly and repeatedly said things like We Will Continue To Focus On Symbian and MeeGo Is Not Ment To Replace Symbian.

Maemo/MeeGo was ment for the highest high end, an internet communication centric niche market, and it would be fairly stupid to cut a leg that 40+% of the world phone users have chosen so that they can start over with an more complex OS that a handful of users - we - use (and complain about).

If anything, the new Nokia leadership is a threat to MeeGo@Nokia, not Symbian. But clearly, so far it has been an useful playground to prepare for the new Qt world order. I expect them to test beta stuff on MeeGo and then push polished versions into Symbian.

Kangal 2011-01-25 04:06
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
I wonder if Nokia/MeeGo are considerin the next-gen chips (I mean the gen after Tegra2).

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=68882

Gk@Pgqr* 2011-01-25 11:00
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 926229)
Christ, read the link. ST Ericsson confirms that Nokia will be shipping at least one device with the U8500 platform, an ARM Cortex-A9 dual-core at 1.2 Ghz with a MALI 400 GPU in the first half of 2011. Question is, what will it be? A Symbian phone, a MeeGo phone or both? Mabe even a tablet (not likely - yet, probably never because Nokia will use Intel IMO).

But one thing is for sure. Within half a year we can get a Nokia of some sort (most probably a phone) with the ST Ericsson U8500 platform: dual Cortex-A9 at 1.2 GHz and a multicore GPU. The performance will be like nothing we have seen before. Call it what you want: N9, N007, N1001 whatever, it doesn't matter, it will kick some serious *** no matter what. :D
With a battery lasting approx 30 minutes.

maxximuscool 2011-01-25 11:33
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
the link says "rumors"

petur 2011-01-25 12:01
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by maxximuscool (Post 928062)
the link says "rumors"
yes, and the 'rumors' part is about what device the chip will be in. That doesn't take away the fact that A device with that chip/platform is coming...

volt 2011-01-25 14:22
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gk@Pgqr* (Post 928048)
With a battery lasting approx 30 minutes.
:-o With a battery lasting approx 30 minutes, I must get a stronger car charger than I have for the N900... The drive to work is 30 minutes! With my current charger, it doesn't charge enough to keep an almost empty phone not empty.

:g

s@kke 2011-01-25 14:52
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
http://www.slashgear.com/nokias-meeg...28SlashGear%29

shadowjk 2011-01-25 15:21
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
Our N900 can already switch off its single core CPU when idle. I don't think that would change for a dual core. Linux even has a setting that makes it prefer running stuff on one core so that others can sleep.

A few years ago Nokia used "Dual CPU" solutions in most of their symbian handsets. tThen symbian os was improved to the point where it could run well enough on just one cpu, and Nokia went to singlecpu to save costs. "well enough" being a relative term when it comes to symiban, of course :)

zehjotkah 2011-01-25 15:51
Re: N9 will have dual ARM Cortex A9
 
And here are leaked photos of the "Nokia Notebook" (don't know if this is the final name, or if they're going the "Nokia Booklet" way again) in "Grass Green" color.
closed:
http://img.ly/2RyG
opened to show the dual 8 inch input areas:
http://img.ly/2RyH


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