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extendedping 2011-02-09 18:44
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
I'm dumb does that mean they are introducing the phone early or they are abandoning it?

lorul2 2011-02-09 18:46
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
Ok it doesn't say Engadget or N9 but it is the same post I made earlier. How many more will we see? Or will this get merged into another thread?

kenga 2011-02-09 18:48
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
They're "on the burning plaform".
Seems like they chose to burn all that they have.

NvyUs 2011-02-09 18:48
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
this news is so old ,eldar reporte this way back

faximan 2011-02-09 18:48
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
Read More:

Topstory:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/n...meego-handset/

And:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/e...-announcement/

May be on friday is the Burial of nokia

tissot 2011-02-09 18:50
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
There's 16 pages of this already from 2 weeks ago.
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...light=scrapped

retsaw 2011-02-09 19:01
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 940197)
I'm dumb does that mean they are introducing the phone early or they are abandoning it?
It means they abandoned the phone they were going to release last year and they'll be releasing something more up-to-date soon.

That they have done this seems pretty obvious without an article to confirm it if you compare the originally rumoured specs for the N9 to new phones that were demoed at CES.

nilchak 2011-02-09 19:15
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
A much better analysis about this whole "Burning Platform" letter from Elop and the Wm7 (or Android) strategy is by Perter Rojas.

sjgadsby 2011-02-09 19:22
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
The thread "Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch" (13 posts) has been merged into this thread.

retsaw 2011-02-09 19:26
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by faximan (Post 940193)
I hope they will start build android Phones!
Why? There are already plenty of Android phones. I want an updated Maemo/Meego phone.

kenga 2011-02-09 19:35
Re: Rumor: Nokia drops first MeeGo phone before launch
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by retsaw (Post 940240)
Why? There are already plenty of Android phones. I want an updated Maemo/Meego phone.
Seems like Elop want to use other Dead-On-Arrival platform -- Win7.

Smart move ;)

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-09 19:39
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/8...1020323060.jpg

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-09 19:40
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Noki - arghhhhhhh!

danramos 2011-02-09 20:26
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Shut up, whiners, and be happy with your N900's. They're still available and they'll run MeeGo, right? Whiners. :)

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-09 21:27
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
I loved the Amiga, I loved the Dreamcast, and because of the N95 and now the N900, I love Nokia.

I just think I like companies and platforms with a self destructive streak.

Heh. Only kidding really, I'm well happy with my old N95 and the N900. I cant see myself with anything else in the forseeable future to be honest.

danramos 2011-02-09 21:43
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 940356)
I loved the Amiga, I loved the Dreamcast, and because of the N95 and now the N900, I love Nokia.

I just think I like companies and platforms with a self destructive streak.

Heh. Only kidding really, I'm well happy with my old N95 and the N900. I cant see myself with anything else in the forseeable future to be honest.
I would prefer to see Nokia come out with something I want. The N900 isn't what I wanted. I wanted a newer, faster upgrade to the N800 (Internet Tablets) line. Nokia was myopic enough to DROP that line instead of adding to it and maintaining a leading role in a product category they effectively OWNED for a time back in 2006-2008. An obvious and arrogant mistake from a company that preferred to float high and above the criticism--but one that I think many people here at the time were arguing already.

On the other hand, if you bought an N900 and you liked it... perhaps you can take the same advice we N800 owners were given: your device still works, doesn't it? Shut up and be happy with your "perfect" device. Support? SUPPORT YOURSELVES. *scraps from the table dropped occasionally, Nokia laughs evilly as it taps cigar ash on your heads* :)

retsaw 2011-02-09 21:52
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 940251)
I disagree, Commodore never had the market share in the computer market that Nokia have in the cellphone market, it would probably be closer to compare them to IBM, who were once a big player in the personal computer market and let it slip away from them, IBM also did lots of R&D (and still do) and so do Nokia.

I did love my Amiga though, shame the bad management at Commodore f'd it up.

AndyNokia232 2011-02-09 21:59
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
My Commodore Plus/4 was pants. ;)

My Nokia N900 is sweet like cherry pie.

Don't really give a flying F what KIng NokNob has to say on Friday, I'm happy with my N900. His burning platform ain't scorching my goods!

Dave999 2011-02-09 22:03
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
I think he will say somthing like: Meego phone is a 2012 event.

danramos 2011-02-09 22:08
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by retsaw (Post 940380)
I disagree, Commodore never had the market share in the computer market that Nokia have in the cellphone market, it would probably be closer to compare them to IBM, who were once a big player in the personal computer market and let it slip away from them, IBM also did lots of R&D (and still do) and so do Nokia.

I did love my Amiga though, shame the bad management at Commodore f'd it up.
An apt comparison! Thank you! I think the similarity, really, with Commodore Amiga is the aging and stubborn fanboi crowd that continues to argue that their platform is still relevant and superior while the rest of the world has moved on and progressed.

For the record, I still have my old Amiga. And my Atari ST and STe's. Hell, I still have a Commodore 64 and a Commodore 64C and an Atari 800XL, 130XE, 1200XL, Atari XE Game System, etc.. etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 940391)
My Commodore Plus/4 was pants. ;)

My Nokia N900 is sweet like cherry pie.

Don't really give a flying F what KIng NokNob has to say on Friday, I'm happy with my N900. His burning platform ain't scorching my goods!
I both love progress, and I love the well designed classics. The N900 is neither. Sorry, but it's true.

ysss 2011-02-09 22:08
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Anyone seen hp's WebOS event?

They extended the webOS family up to 10" tablet form factor and also down to a 'mini' smartphone of sort (credit card sized).

They showed some very interesting features too (tap your smartphone to the tablet, then it'll 'transfer' the open webpage to the bigger screen, etc).

All this to be available this summer.

Yet another contender coming in strong to this marketspace... all the while Nokia busy fighting their worse enemy.

mscion 2011-02-09 22:11
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 940374)
I would prefer to see Nokia come out with something I want. The N900 isn't what I wanted. I wanted a newer, faster upgrade to the N800 (Internet Tablets) line. Nokia was myopic enough to DROP that line instead of adding to it and maintaining a leading role in a product category they effectively OWNED for a time back in 2006-2008. An obvious and arrogant mistake from a company that preferred to float high and above the criticism--but one that I think many people here at the time were arguing already.

On the other hand, if you bought an N900 and you liked it... perhaps you can take the same advice we N800 owners were given: your device still works, doesn't it? Shut up and be happy with your "perfect" device. Support? SUPPORT YOURSELVES. *scraps from the table dropped occasionally, Nokia laughs evilly as it taps cigar ash on your heads* :)
Well, you make some good points. I would also like to see Nokia come out with something I want. Basically something like the N900 but with a bigger screen (4-5inch) and about twice as fast with QWERTY keyboard more ram and so forth. So the N9 was pretty close by the specs that were flying around. It makes no difference to me if it has Meego or Maemo as long as there is a community that helped supported it like maemo.org. Kudos to you folks.

AndyNokia232 2011-02-09 22:16
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by mscion (Post 940401)
Well, you make some good points. I would also like to see Nokia come out with something I want. Basically something like the N900 but with a bigger screen (4-5inch) and about twice as fast with QWERTY keyboard more ram and so forth. So the N9 was pretty close by the specs that were flying around. It makes no difference to me if it has Meego or Maemo as long as there is a community that helped supported it like maemo.org. Kudos to you folks.
I agree. I had no idea at all when I clicked "Buy" when I bought the N900 I was actually becoming part of the amazing Maemo community. Makes it all the more worth it! :)

pkubaj 2011-02-09 22:16
Insider: Nokia has cancelled their only MeeGo phone
 
Quote:
Two sources close to Nokia have confirmed today the cancellation of the company's first MeeGo-based mobile phone, Yahoo is reporting. Following yesterday's leak of a memo from CEO Stephen Elop, where he referred to Nokia as "standing on a burning platform", the internet has been buzzing with talk that Elop is planning to make big changes to the Finnish company. Elop's revolution is making itself public at a time when speculation that Nokia is preparing to switch to Windows Phone 7 is making the rounds on tech blogs, giving the rumours more and more credibility.

Canalys analyst Tim Shepherd believes the move could be justified, despite Nokia's investments into the platform. "Frankly, Nokia has to decide whether maintaining MeeGo is of strategic value in the short or longer term. If it believes MeeGo will not deliver value, it should divert resources elsewhere," he said. Shepherd pointed out that Elop has no "emotional attachment" to any platforms, so a change of platform that would benefit the business would not be too difficult for him.

MeeGo was first announced in February last year as a joint venture between Nokia and Intel. The aim of the project was to merge Intel's Moblin and Nokia's Maemo into a single product. While MeeGo has a long number of possible applications, the fact that one of its developers is not confident enough to install it on their phones is a worrying sign. Nonetheless, MeeGo has a long list of supporters, so it's unlikely to die overnight even if Nokia withdrew entirely from the project.
http://www.neowin.net/news/insider-n...ly-meego-phone

wmarone 2011-02-09 22:19
Re: Insider: Nokia has cancelled their only MeeGo phone
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by pkubaj (Post 940406)
Old news skewed by a pro-Windows website.
Hey, welcome to the party.

Dave999 2011-02-09 22:20
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
I fear that the QWERTY is gone and that the first meego phone from nokia will be a replacement for n8.

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-09 22:21
Re: Insider: Nokia has cancelled their only MeeGo phone
 
OMG breaking news!! lol.

Already been a thread or 5 about it mate.

danramos 2011-02-09 22:23
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AndyNokia232 (Post 940405)
I agree. I had no idea at all when I clicked "Buy" when I bought the N900 I was actually becoming part of the amazing Maemo community. Makes it all the more worth it! :)
It's a shame you weren't here when it was far more constructive and truly deserved to be called an amazing community. It's become something of a slowly dying ember and infinitely more pessimistic than the happier days of Internet Tablet Talk. There are still a good number of people I continue to have good conversations with, on here. It surprises me, sometimes, that it still holds a valuable community but I'm glad to see it's still here despite the degradation.

jsa 2011-02-09 22:24
Re: Insider: Nokia has cancelled their only MeeGo phone
 
One thread for each timezone..

Nice to see how the story evolves.. "cancels N9" has already transformed to "cancels only MeeGo phone". So maybe the next article jumps the gun and claims MeeGo is cancelled. Did you ever play the game as a kid where you whispered something to the next persons ear, then he would to the next one's and the message was relayed and in the end it would be something completely different? Well, that's the blogosphere rumour mill at work.

sjgadsby 2011-02-09 22:27
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
The thread "Insider: Nokia has cancelled their only MeeGo phone" (4 posts) has been merged into this thread.

mikecomputing 2011-02-09 22:37
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Nokia just canceled Ncdk EB 2.0 and now runing a new board version 3.0 ;)



http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Hand...ance/Ncdk/1096

marxian 2011-02-09 22:49
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 940413)
It's become something of a slowly dying ember and infinitely more pessimistic than the happier days of Internet Tablet Talk.
And who are the purveyors of this pessimism? I find your post to be somewhat ironic.

danramos 2011-02-09 23:00
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by marxian (Post 940440)
And who are the purveyors of this pessimism? I find your post to be somewhat ironic.
I find your post to be somewhat sad. It's like a smiling clownface covering a crying tramp. :)

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-09 23:16
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 940447)
I find your post to be somewhat sad. It's like a smiling clownface covering a crying tramp. :)
I do also find your posts, recent ones in this thread, a bit contradictory also. You posted a message lambasting people whining, and then proceeded to go into a full on rant about how the N900 was not what you wanted.

?

danramos 2011-02-09 23:25
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JamesBond@ge (Post 940457)
I do also find your posts, recent ones in this thread, a bit contradictory also. You posted a message lambasting people whining, and then proceeded to go into a full on rant about how the N900 was not what you wanted.

?
It isn't irony if I didn't waste my money on it. I'm still waiting to see if they'll make a better tablet before I move up from the N800, or at LEAST a better more computer-like handset instead of yet another me-too "smartphone".

volt 2011-02-09 23:25
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quim just twittered a link. Nokia is hiring. They want an UX designer for MeeGo.

Doesn't sound like they are scrapping MeeGo completely just yet.

danramos 2011-02-09 23:28
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by volt (Post 940466)
Quim just twittered a link. Nokia is hiring. They want an UX designer for MeeGo.

Doesn't sound like they are scrapping MeeGo completely just yet.
That's at least promising to hear, amidst all the rest of the bad news. Any news/announcements about when they intend to release or at least announce something we can buy? Otherwise, there isn't a whole lot of good news or progress for Meamo/MeeGo coming out of Nokia lately. Wasn't there supposed to be some kind of Nokia show soon?

Dr. Drips 2011-02-09 23:37
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Friday we will know more

JamesBond@ge 2011-02-09 23:37
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by danramos (Post 940465)
It isn't irony if I didn't waste my money on it. I'm still waiting to see if they'll make a better tablet before I move up from the N800, or at LEAST a better more computer-like handset instead of yet another me-too "smartphone".
Ok, point taken.

I'm not about to start preaching to the non-converted here. I'm sure you have done so.....but I gotta ask this question. Have you ever used an N900?

volt 2011-02-09 23:37
Re: N9 scrapped according to Eldar and others.
 
Stephen Elop, Nokia CEO, is expected to unveil Nokia’s new company strategy on Friday February 11, at a Nokia Strategy and Financial Briefing in London.

That's when bloggers expect Elop to do anti-Symbian things. Which will probably not be good for the Qt symbiosis with "our" two platforms.

That's all I know. More than I know.


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