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For your next smartphone, will you choose N9 or switch to an Android phone / iPhone ?
According to the information so far, we can almost be sure that N9 will use ST-Ericsson U8500 platform.
The video shows that it has a big screen and attactive looking. The final product should be much thinner than N900. Very good looking. http://i52.tinypic.com/n5n0ih.png http://i56.tinypic.com/mwyv14.png This shows the reference UI, the final Nokia UI should be different. But I think the application is still a very big problem. Apps & developers for MeeGo is too less comparing to Android/iOS. The Nokia vice president - Marko said on LeWeb that N9 will have a totally new user experience, no need to pay attention when using, still not sure what it is. Based on the info now, For your next mobile phone, will you choose N9, or switch to an Android phone with Tegra 2 ? Or switch to other phone, like iPhone 4 ? I had used N900 for 9 months and now I want to switch to htc desire hd. I want to know your ideas. |
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I'd never ever use an iPhone, but I ain't planning to get Android either. I am gonna wait for now and see how MeeGo phones fare and perhaps get one later on.
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I will stay with Nokia - definitely. But Symbian begins to look really attractive.
Edit: well, I was kinda naive - in this situation I think I will go Android |
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Depends on lots of things, I'd never give apple any of my money, for ethical reasons, so unless someone else comes out with something as open as the n900, or the n9 isn't the phone we're all waiting for (for me, I want a more powerful and more polished version of the n900) then it looks likely that I'll be wanting one of them..
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The way Nokia are going, I think I'm going to move over to the iPhone (5 by that time).
I've always used nokias except for a brief moto stint back in 2003 when the v600 clam shell came out. I love the N900 but also hate it at the same time. So much potential, so much waste. It can do all things, except answer a call when you really need it. I can honestly say, I am never buying Nokia again, unless they pull out the morph, n888 or something to wow me. For so long I have bought nokias for the fm transmitter above many things. I drive a 1990 Rallye Golf, which I refuse to shoehorn some gay *** bluetooth stereo into, and my sprinted driving style doesn't suit jack to jack leads hanging out of my dash, so the fm transmitter worked really well for me. I got burned with the the 6500 slide (I went through 7 in 1 year), the n86, it was a piece of crap. And now the N900, what with lousy support, buggy, beta style (at best) OS. Android, for what it's worth, is nice, I just hate hardware buttons, even if they are capacitive. Also I have not seen 1 android phone I like the build quality of, they feel like flimsy plasticy toys. I want metal. I will only buy an iPhone if they do away with the home button and replace it with a 3 fingered gesture (as is roumered), oh and on the condition that turtle neck wearing weirdo doesn't return to the helm! I make iphone apps as part of my job and every day I feel further and further behind the times using this laggy, buggy, resistive clicky squidgey screened brick! |
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As much as I somewhat-often (I guess... I don't really count) agree with James Littler on things, I feel that in this case that's a luck-of-what-got-installed-when/where-and-what-your-use-cases are.
I've never had problems answering phone calls on the N900, and I haven't heard anything from anyone suggesting I just missed any. I HAVE had occasional bugs where the phone spontaneously shuts off, doesn't reboot (but still has battery power to do so and run for a while), and when it boots up the next time, the text messaging system is f'ed (new messages out refuse to send, new incoming ones arrive but if you close the convo they vanish). Reboot after that usually fixes it though. The only time I've ever hung up on a call was when I was about to press an entirely unrelated UI element when a call came in. When I have used the N900 as a phone (mostly after PR1.3, with the exception of one week with, I think, PR1.1.1 or PR1.2), I have not had phone call getting problems. (I realize it was worse before-hand, but that's kinda indicative of the existing support.) At any rate, I don't know how you feel limited, really. We just got a replacement keyboard that pulls of portrait damn well, we have just about everything a normal phone can do and then some, and if you look over the spectrum of users and use cases, we actually don't have more bugs on this platform than iPhones/Android devices have. I know damn well I've heard complaints from Android phone users about their phones being slow. I have also know there's a good amount of iPhone bugs - it's just that most iPhone users are busy going omg-I-haz-iPhone. If we had the same bugs on Maemo every one here would be flipping a **** calling Nokia horrible at supporting this platform, this OS as beta, etc, etc. Nay, this OS is damn good. And if it had the same limitations the iStuff had, you'd never run into most of these bugs, because the stock apps barely have any. There would be some - but like the iPhone's alarm-not-going-off-at-the-right-time problem, that's to be expected. What makes everyone here have a problem with it is that this phone doesn't BS you about what's behind the scenes, and it doesn't give you comfortable padding. If this phone only let you multitask on its terms, you'd run your individual apps one/two at-a-time just fine. If this phone hid every bug within an entire closed-source OS, instead of just within some (admittedly very important) binary blobs, you wouldn't know of half these bugs happened. Things would "just(/not) work", and when they didn't you'd either not know about it, or not know what the hell caused it. You get the liberty to know a binary blob is buggy and Nokia is anal for not open-sourcing it because you get to see through the open parts of the OS in the first place. - Edit - At the rate things are going, unless I absolutely need something like later-than-9.4 flash compatibility with bs'ed version numbers soon (which, honestly, I'd like, but I don't need now), I'm probably keeping my N900 for a few years. (Really, dear god, do people really buy high-end gadgets only to upgrade less than a year after the fact? Is this just because the N900 is the first smart-phone I ever liked enough to go out and pay for myself, and it was an actual investment for me? Do the rest of you really have that many liquid funds?) Anyway, right now, the only things I personally miss from this phone: Full portraitization (It's known to be in the works, and MohammadAG fixed the Qt bug in Maemo that caused segfaults when launching in portrait). Honestly, given how MUCH portrait support is now available courtesy portrait keyboard and usable-in-portrait status-menu, I'm happy with what's there. I just like the aesthetic of having fully full portrait support. The Flash being up-to-date, but like I said, frak it, it's not a problem enough for me. Print function included in the FreOffice UI. I'm pretty sure host-mode + debian-on-armel-driver-for-printer = printing possible for even USB printers. Combined with the already present Bluetooth printing capability, there's no reason that shouldn't be in there already. Beyond that? I'm kinda set right now. The rest are trifles, for me. I know I'm lucky and I don't have bugs like some other people do. I can't really help anyone there, though. |
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I'm not expecting to switch to an Android phone. I work with a guy who has a Samsung Vibrant. He complains about his phone daily. Until Nokia can nail down the N9, or whatever it is they are going to release, I can not see making any sort of commitment to buy one. I'll consider it. The N900 is the standard against which I'll be judging the tablet aspects and the N8 is the standard against which I'll be assessing the phone features. If there is little or no improvement on either front then I'll just have to hope my USB port remains intact as I "drive it until the wheels fall off". |
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I tested Android and I think it needs to be a little more mature still, and high-end handsets with that OS are too big for me... 4 - 4.3" screens? too much... I will probably replace my beloved N95 with the N8, I like Symbian and Symbian^3 will probably improve a lot in 2011 |
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I'm not sure about N9 but my next mobile will have at least a dualcore processor or may be a quad core :) .I don't like iPhone,I may switch to Android if I don't find MeeGo that good.
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Proabably a WP7 device... when I have enough money to buy one ;)
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Well since there isn't really any hard data on the N9 yet, I'm still waiting.
In the meantime, I have been quite intrigued by the Motorola Atrix (and related netbook)... also I'd like to see what HP/Palm does with webOS devices, if they make phone that can compete with the latest and greatest smartphones, I will seriously consider it. |
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no need for apple or google. have one android device (7"tablet). it's nice, but android is IMHO overhyped. I'm waiting for n9+.
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a motorola device seems the way forward but I don't intend on replacing my current N900 for at least a good year
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Android phone + ipod 5
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How can one decide now, If we know afaik more or less nothing specific about the N9? Apple stuff however is out of question. Android? I don't know, its something I have to jailbreak and the apps are usually programmed in Java. This is nothing for me.
My N900 is just a month old and I want to keep it for some years, so my next smartphone wouldn't be the N9 anyway. A new smartphone should be at least that free as the N900 too. I couldn't really test the handset edition of meego on my slow sd card, but if it isn't crap, I will probably install it on the internal emmc with or without Nokia support. |
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It's hard for me to imagine downgrading to Android or iOS from Maemo or MeeGo. So I'll continue to use my N900 and wait for something else running MeeGo.
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switching to desire hd is stupid imo. why? Because I think specwise you go back in the past. 2011 is dualcore year imo.
I buy the device that knocks me off my sox. Last was atrix 4g Expecting a lot from htc, lg, samsung and iPhone. iPhone is supported massively. Thats a plus. So IF it's got an ARM a9 a-like, 1gb ram, 64gb storage, 4" screen, fullhd record and play... why not? |
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While I appreciate the platform benefits to MeeGo over Android etc at the end of the day I am a hardware whore.
I want a 4" to 4.3" screen with a 960x540 QHD resolution, 800x480 is so last year. this is one area i can imagine nokia falling down vs Apple/Android. I want an OpenCL capable SoC, and at present the only people who can provide one is the rumoured Iphone5 with its SGX543-2 gpu, and the PSP2 with its SGX 543-4 gpu. another area where Nokia is likely not to be forward looking enough compared to its competition. |
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sure, i see the point, but that openness does no good if there are no capabilities to make use of.
i never believed that nokia wanted to get into the SoC business, i merely note that Android will soon have access to the Adreno 300 gpu with openCL support, and Ios will soon use the SGX543 gpu which likewise has OpenCL support, whereas there is nothing on TI/ST-Ericson's roadmap that has similar capabilities. |
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The way we are going is cloud computing. What we need is compatibility and support. You really think Nokia are going to play ball on that one? Even Tesco supports iPhone with an app that allows you to scan barcodes when out and about and it'll add the item to your shopping basket. Now that is actually USEFUL, are nokia doing it...no. All the angry birds seasons, useless but fun none the less, do we see them? no. the list goes on and on and on. @Mentalist, I get what you're saying. I am allowed to be my own undoing to a certain extent. But even so, the OS should be written to for eg. allocate 10% always to UI, 10% ready for a phone call. 80% still available to multi task but when a call comes in the UI can respond before my answer machine does. My main problem with Nokia is they don't test anything properly. I remember they brought out an OS update for the n86 which destroyed the landscape mode, it litterally took 20 seconds to change between portrait and landscape, and I'm not exagerating. Nokia's answer was to disable turning. Just like when we moan about flash security they say 'disable it'. FFS that is not a solution you bunch of ignorant twats!!! I seriously think Nokia should just go back to making welly boots. Oh and what good does open source do us when it is only really the closed blobs that are broken?! |
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Way ahead of you as i got Galaxy S and will soon replace it with iphone 4.
Though as funny it might sound with all these amazing Android phones already announced and more to come in MWC(especially from Samsung) i'm most interested about Nokia's MeeGo. But unfortunatly i'm not expecting to see announcement of that MeeGo phone any time soon. So i'll let the time pass and most probably buy it when ever it comes out. |
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The irony of being open is that it's closed to the proprietary gardens; and that's where most of the paid and premium content lives.
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N900 is just getting really good. I can't possibly leave now. :D
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Meh, the moment you completely dedicate x resources to y task, people are going to be annoyed. If they had limited __ CPU resources to UI, someone would've said screw that a few months in, and something like Power Kernel would come with the ability to disable such things. To me it pretty much comes back to the aforementioned - N900 gets a bunch of **** from its users because it lets them see what there is to ***** about.
But, yes, I agree that disabling **** when it doesn't work isn't a solution, it's dickery. Of course, the iPhone can't exactly say anything better in that department, since 'just don't hold it that way' happened with the antenna thing. Also, the amount of apps available on the iPhone barely count for support BY Apple. It's supported by other companies because it's popular. You want Tesco to make an app for it, then you annoy them about it. Apple didn't make Tesco make that app. Thousands of sheep flocking to the iPhone made Tesco make that app. If you want to change that, you write to the companies that won't make N900/Linux apps, and if even half of the people here who ***** about the N900 lacking apps did that, it would show them that there's probably something viable about this platform. As for the cloud, it just upsets me. I do not like the fact that people can be okay with their information and processing being done by things they have no jurisdiction or oversight over. Admittedly, I use GMail, so I make exceptions to that too, but at least Google has a process by which you can request that your information/stored data is deleted. But I know GMail isn't mine so it's not like I allow my life's entire communications to happen through it. Back to the point though, I can see how it makes sense to store copies of **** online, especially for something that happens online - you have to be connected to the internet to get emailing to even happen. So I get running emails this way. But everything? And not the do-it-yourself-by-setting-up-your-own-server way, but a here-let-me-let-this-company-handle-my-image-editing, while-I-stream-the-video-I'm-recording-over-to-that-company's-servers, oh-and-here-why-don't-you-over-there-take-my-money-for-the-pleasure-of-letting-me-run-my-calculations-on-your-servers. Yes, most companies will probably be relatively decent about it. But it's dangerous, the way infringements on internet freedom are dangerous, the way giving police/courts/whatever too much power is dangerous, etc. And cloud-ification can be done right and in a way that averts those dangers, but happily rushing into the fluffiness that is being touted as cloud computing is not the way to do it. (Keep in mind, too, that cloud computing has been more or less most vocally pushed by the people who stand to gain from it - businesses with sufficient funds to deploy a sufficiently robust server infrastructure.) On a slightly humorous note regarding cloud computing: http://qdb.us/305324 - Edit - Just saw all the asterisks in my post. Didn't realize I cuss that much. I know I do, regularly, but that was more than I thought I did. |
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Nokia N9, for sure.
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gingerbread looks really nice.
many great super-phones are coming android has a great future many good hd games and apps n900 was a nice device but its outdated and will definetly be changed in the next 2-3 months regards |
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I need to see real specs on the N9 before I decide to purchase it. 4 inch screen, physical keyboard, 32+ gb of storage, FM transmitter, and a fast processor are mainly the hardware specs I am looking for. Hopefully meego isn't buggy when the phone releases.
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actually i am afraid the N9 will be too clean and smooth, like an iphone. i enjoy the 'edges' that come with the openess on my N900 and would never swich to ios etc. i really dont need the tesco shopping carts etc, and i cant understand statements that n900 could not survive as your only phone...to me my n900 is a business-phone, offduty phone and everythin i need, and it does it all very well
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my next phone will be the same phone I own. it will be different however because in a week or so it will have a mugen battery making it a laughingstock to all iphone users.
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could be anything without Android at the moment. Probably one Meego and one Win7 device during 2011.
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Dispite all the attitude some people here seem to have when some of us complain about the n900 lack of decent apps, i think nokia could easily be a winner if they were to also offered symbian os on the n900. Feels very much as if we just beta testing the hand full of apps which the community has developed, where most decent and in particular commercial apps are nowhere to be seen. Not a produtive device IMO.
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my current voice/data plan comes with a GSG and the plan will end in 3 years; so if my n900 dies or get stolen in the meantime, I will use the GSG:) I will switch the phone If there is more capable N900-like device from Nokia or other manufacturer by 2013 time frame.
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I think I will choose Nokia E7 or N9, after N900..
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Htc hd2 asap, running awesomedroid and win phone7, and I'm not talking about a slow almost unusable nitdroid either, I'm talking the full whack shabang, and its all happening NOW not Q2 2011!
I dont give my money to company's who drop their products with no support after only a couple of months of selling it to me as 'thee' best thing, and I don't do half baked firmwares anymore |
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