Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

We know for a fact they will only release a MeeGo device until they get a high end WP7 device ready so don't fall for it.

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Happy Windows Phone dayyy cant wait Meego in 2018

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

Jo Harlow, new exec in charge of Smart Devices, will grab the MeeGo reins in addition to responsibility for Symbian Smartphones and and Strategic Business Operations.

http://www.nokia.com/A4254075

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

good news? the meegos description surely sounds a lot like what maemo have been to nokia.....

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

LMAO

The only guy that Flop decided to sack from upper management was Torres!

Ojanperä, Mcdowell, Aho, Savander all still have plenty of chances to fail in new and innovative ways.




http://www.schooltosuccess.org/image...ur_land_lg.jpg

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

Hmmm..it is already and has been from beginning :|

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this statement, nokia will this, nokia will that, looks like a complete capitulation ...

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One word. Sad.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

It's actually the other way around.

MS has got itself the golden key to access hundreds of millions of potential customers who are not as critical as the common 'smartphone savvy customer'.

They will sell WP7 under the Nokia brand, to people who cares more about a phone's brand, general features and color/shape; than those who are already entrenched to an existing platform (iOS/Android/WebOS/BB/etc).

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

How so? MeeGo will continue on.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

Oh g*ddammit... I thought that Elop actually had a brain, but this...is just huge pile of stinking ********.

Ok, Nokia has had problems executing strategy and creating their ecosystem. Not enough speed they say. And what do they do? They effectively kill the ecosystem they have been working on for long time and start over! That's just instane! They won't get anything out of their new ecosystem until 2012 and yet they say they do it for "more speed".

Only bright side on this is that MeeGo was not killed, not at least yet. Personally I will not buy a device based on WP, as I would not want to buy a device based on iOS. I will probably get a MeeGo device, but not a WP device. This also means that I will have to start thinking alternatives to mobile phone policy of our company. Just...********.

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nokia makes great hardware
micro$oft makes great OS

hows that a problem?

plus windows will be used on the top nokia phones, meego on the middle range.. right?

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Yes, it seems a complete win for MS and a surrender from Nokia.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

but without a big supporter...

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Ill take a dual boot option if they are offering it. Or a free phone to compensate the fact that they sold me the n900 on the false promise that it was the next step on the path to maemo 6.

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From the official press release: "MeeGo becomes an open-source, mobile operating system project"

A "project". Well, so was Maemo. And it had all the official focus that such "projects" have in companies. It will not be Nokia's focus and is unlikely to produce any seriously supported handsets.

And we already know what that feels like...(owner of 770, N800, N900).

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

Do recall Qt has VS plugins.

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bloomberg says nokia stock dropped a massive 10% after the announcment

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

With the Linux Foundation, GM, BMW, and a few other OEM instances out there, I'm quite sure that Nokia will not exactly drop it wholesale.

I don't mind admitting that I'm likely wrong, but what I read sounds like Nokia will still have a MeeGo device out later this year.

If anything, I see this like when Samsung brought out their Android devices while they worked on Bada. If the MeeGo device proves itself to be a big seller, it'll end up being their high end as originally planned.

That's my take.

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Are you ******ed? Do you remember vista?

**** this

**** THIS.

NOW I AM PISSED.

HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME NOKIA?

I HAVE WAITED DECADES FOR A DEVICE LIKE THE N900 AND NOW THE WHOLE **** HAS BEEN KILLED OFF STONE DEAD.

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jailbroken iPhone, running on Android, here we all come......

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

What about Intel?

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

The problem with Nokia isn't just that they've failed to execute on all of their various platform plans but at the same time they've fallen behind on the *hardware* side too!

The old-school Series-Sxx candybars are what keeps some revenue still flowing in but they've simultaneously ignored the maintenance and development of that key platform... :rolleyes:

The idea of upgrading the headline-grabbing N-series Internet Tablets into an affordable first-class product line as cooperative and symbiotic "companion devices" for Symbian phones (with proper data/function integration) - with crucially early entry to market and to create developer- and userbase! - while at the same time designing those ultimate high-end tablet-phones... I guess it's getting too late for that. Other manufacturers don't have the existing userbase to take advantage of so there have been no attempts at coming up with fantastic new basic phones that seamlessly integrate with an affordable multi-user tablet, but it saddens me that Nokia hasn't even been able to come up with the goods separately...

The side-tracking jump to the MeeGo train with the x86-pushing behemoth never made sense to me but I could see that platform as rescueable. Another side-tracking jump into the arms (no pun intended) of yet another struggling behemoth (and one that is obsessed at *owning* their proprietary platforms) would for me be the end of it.

My currently rather uneducated opinion is that Nokia could still soldier on with its own platform and services *if* they can focus increased engineering efforts towards it and if they actually know what they're doing.

However their best chance of beginning to regain some marketshare within a year or two would entail deep and successful cooperation between the various genuine Linux-based platforms (in order to get developers on board). Nokia is no longer in any position to dictate terms to anyone, but if the genuine Linux-based platforms remain separate and fragmented (wrt. developers and app-hungry masses) there will only remain two advanced mobile platforms with *mass-appeal*.

Edit: I deserve to be shot together with Nokia's board for being late with my totally useless answer... :D

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it all starts here http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/...ay-on-the-job/

yeah, N900 with Maemo and C6-01 with S^3 could be my 2 last Nokia phones. both serves great for me. let's see if N900 can have Meego and C6-01 can have S^4 update, if they don't, then I'll have to dump them and switch to other phones

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

that's why I stated "a big supporter", not for example "the biggest supporters"

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Nokia announces that Symbian will be shipped with approximately 150 million devices before coming to end-of-life. It's not the end-of-life for Meego, but not good news. With all the lack of support for N900 I still enjoy using the device, so it's a sad day for people expecting a Meego smart phone.

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My collection of positive point:

-Not wasting my time on obsessing about Maemo/Meego/Nokia translates into more free time.

-I don't have to continue learning C++ now that MS development tools are replacing Qt. Even more free time.

-Nokia will employe lot less finns from now on. That means that Nokia won't hog such a huge portion of gifted and educated people and misuse their talents. That's good for Finland's macroeconomy.

- I'll save on travel expenses, now that I don't have to travel to Meego Summit Finland in April.

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And it should go even worse. Is Nokia renouncing to their own platform of services and development tools?

They say they will use MS and do not mention anything about OVI or Qt.

So future of Nokia is become a cheap manufacturer? Do they think they can compete with HTC, Samsung and others that way?

Everyone is building their own ecosystem: Samsung with Bada, HP with WebOS and Nokia is shooting in her foot.

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No system-wide file manager
No Bluetooth file transfers
No USB mass storage mode
Limited third-party apps availability
No Flash or Silverlight support in the browser
Too dependent on Zune software for file management and syncing
No video calls
No custom ringtones
Music player lacks equalizer presets
No multitasking
No copy/paste
No DivX/XviD video support (automatic transcoding provided by Zune software)
No sign of free Bing maps Navigation so far
No internet tethering support

Taken from http://www.techknots.com/mobiles/wp7-limitations/. Although MS has spoken of improving the OS through updates, it's still hard to be optimistic... Compared to the functionality of the N900 this is a huuuge step back.

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Hey, since the press release references "Meego Computers" -- not Meego Smartphones -- I hope that means I can expect a replacement for my WiFi-only, 4"+ N800!

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Sure, after saying it's doomed they are going to sell a lot more units of Symbian.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

Jeesuz.

Only now saw this.

Have. No. Words.

Other than "Microsoft old boys' network has struck again"...

Bye Nokia. It could've been more fun while it lasted.

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I think Nokia just crapped in their pants for warmth.

It's sad to think that there may never be an upgrade from this N900 phone which even now has no competitors (any others with a GNU userland?) and is well over a year old.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

told you so it won't happen. see the announcement today. :P

i'm a .net developer and i'm very familiar with CLR. however, it doesn't make business sense and the announcement by Elop has proven my point. :) Elop would be crazy to continue to pursue Qt on WP7.

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Actually, it is down a 10.78% (09:29:25 CET):

http://www.nasdaqomxnordic.com/aktie...ument=HEX24311

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I don't care about the N900, I'm happy with it and with this community. But I won't buy a Nokia device wit WP7, and I think not many people will do.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

i think if anything, we should hope for something to come out of the ashes of the burning platform and hope it will grow better. we can all bi*ch about how bad MS is and bla bla bla (this is old news anyway, people always say MS is bad) but these companies will continue to do what makes business sense because that rakes in the dollars.

just because a group of consumers think MS sucks doesn't mean they will die. hell, a lot of people think this but MS is still making money.

my best wishes to Nokia + Microsoft. i hope something good comes out of this.

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then again, what kind of CEO would talk this way about his own company?

"The first iPhone shipped in 2007, and we still don't have a product that is close to their experience. Android came on the scene just over 2 years ago, and this week they took our leadership position in smartphone volumes. Unbelievable."

while everybody known that those are complete rubbish and rubbish

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Bye Bye Qt
I guess it is time to learn java :/

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego?
 

They essentially gave up all their chances to build something unique. Good luck differentiating on "imaging" then. Merging Ovi Store with MS Marketplace? I think they pissed in their pants for warmth.