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hahah thanks mate .. needed a laugh

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Look at this: http://twitter.com/nokia/status/36047203759820800

"MeeGo will be an opp to learn/explore future disruptive platforms, devices & experiences. Expect a device before end of 2011 "

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Obviously, they don't:

"Massive Layoffs Expected at Nokia"

As a typical american CEO, he thought a massive layoffs could always boost stock price.

However, even with that golden card dealt, stock price is still falling like landslide.

Serve him right. :cool:

How it went down at Nokia...
 

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego? Hello WP7!!
 

That is wisdom.

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actually you are all wrong.

1. this market share drop leads to
2. elops specialty which is
3. aquisitions, particullary -
4. nokia by
5. microsoft

the end $$$$$ MONEY.... their purpose in life, they don't give a fck about community and such

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego? Hello WP7!!
 

Threads merged.

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Actually, I think Nokia is way too bloated and has too much dead weight; why else do you think it takes them an eternity to release anything? They have to get approval from 50 different people to even include a feature in the phone and if 1 person rejects it then it is never used... (an exaggeration, naturally)

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Maybe someone of them are angry and let the full open N900 by a leak or something, if that happens, al least this community would be less angry (and do a lot of cool stuff, to teach nokia a lesson).


Grettings.

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How does MeeGo from Intel's side of things fit into all this?

What strikes me is that this 'remedy' is going to take a year or two to bear fruit, so says Elop today. So how the **** is that the best option? If they're happy to take that much time, they could work on MeeGo quietly ironing out all the issues and unleash it on the world in the next 12 months - unrivalled hardware, exciting new software with its promised capabilities of being an all round entertainment centre across a variety of devices and not just phones. Nokia would win back some marketshare, install some trust into consumers and analysts and get themselves known on the smartphone market again, retain their identity too.

Instead they're taking the same length of time to lose their identity, stop support for Symbian and MeeGo so no one will consider buying any of their devices in the short term, and become a hardware manufacturer.

WTF is Elop thinking with this?

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"lol NOOBE n900 not smortfone it mobale camputer"

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How Nokia will eradicate Symbian & MeeGo...

http://static.unplugged.rcrwireless....kiasymbian.jpg

http://static.unplugged.rcrwireless....nokiameego.jpg

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Also, if you think Meego is going to ever be supported, note that Alberto Torres left Nokia today:

From http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/2011...utive-changes/

Things are looking up! /sarcasm

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego? Hello WP7!!
 

What, specifically, about the interface did you dislike?

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You know, this makes me remember what happened to Danger. How Microsoft bought a company and essentially destroyed it, for nothing (the KIN phones where in the market for what, 6 weeks?).

Seriously, what was wrong with speeding up MeeGo, positioning it at the top of the OVI Ecosystem (second biggest App store) and strike a deal with MS to support enterprise services?

Shame on you, Elop.

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego? Hello WP7!!
 

the squares are ugly! Enough? i have a lot more to say ;)

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The remedy is worst than the illness. Couldn't have said it better. Intel will probably go Android.

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Judging by the amount of comments so far i reckon this is the biggest news since the N900 was released and now the utter shock has sank i wonder what this will mean for the N900?.

Anyone any idea's?.

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It might mean to buy up as many as you can because it'll be known as the last worthwhile device from Nokia.
Or it might slip into obscurity.

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LMAO! Just.... LMAO!

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What a very sad day for Finland and Europe in general, I feared the worse with a North American CEO running the show, we can now all be subjected to the US style hyped, dumbed down, closed, mass market consumer products like the iCrap.

I'm still having trouble comprehending how Nokia threw away such a unpolished diamond like the N900 and Maemo 5, it's unreal.

I think innovators like Ari Jaaksi saw all this coming hence his move to HP/webOS.

The only thing certain now is that I will be buying another N900, I can only urge the community to re-double our efforts in advancing Maemo 5 with or without Nokia.

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No, it was a plan. This rogue guy had this in mind from the beginning, I think.

Sure - Intel started hiring Android people month ago.

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just bought antoher n900... so until 4g comes.. im safe... =P

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And do that while Nokia was still number 2 in profits (Q4) only topped by Apple, and still leading in market share in both overall and smartphones, although in decline.

They waste just as much time with this strategy shift while giving up all the trump cards they had. Their scale is now against them. It only serves to drive Microsoft's ecosystem. I bet competitors are ramping up their WP7 projects already because suddenly that might be a viable competitor to Android and iOS and now you can out-do Nokia with HW only. They should've taken their scale advantage to drive their own ecosystem, to competitors' disadvantage but now they're totally playing for everyone else but themselves.

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http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/6821/nokiamix.png

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Nokia will soon change its mind again. And change its os again. Might be android next. Nokia changing their OSes as often as I change underwear.

well almost ;)

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Hmm. You have just underestimated this news value. This news is going to be here in Finland on EVERY SINGLE PAPERs first page tomorrow and probably on coming weeks. There will be thousands of ex Nokian sw-devels quite soon on job market :|

And for N900. I don´t know. If you have read any posts here especially threads where qgil explains why making stuff open source is not free I would guess that nothing changes. Things go on as they have. We as hobbyist keep on fooling around with our little toys etc. Meego will be released.

Only thing what I´m worried alot is Qt.

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That's nothing... Copy/paste and multitasking, that is something my old Nokia 7650 had 8 years ago!

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Mmmmmm... hot, steaming, claim chowder anyone?

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Since 1999, I've bought about 15-20 cell phones -- all of them made by Nokia. However, I doubt my next phone will be a Nokia. I just can't see myself using a Windows Phone. I'm going to try to keep an open mind, and hope for the best, but I'm not expecting much.

Like many on here, I'm feeling angry and disappointed.

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here ya go... plain n simple XD

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?sk=...93993210630430

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This news makes me very sad. Most people here seem sad too, but bear in mind that this community isn't exactly representative of the market in general. The slashdot crowd seem sad also. What's really interesting is the slump in the share price, that's not an indicator that involves fonboyism or zealotry in the same way.

I will _never_ use anything from Microsoft, I've been a computer guy for whe whole of the PC era and have seen how they are a marketing-led outfit with little regard for producing quality products when it doesn't impact their bottom line. Their buisiness practices are questionable at best and have often been proven to be illegal. They have a long history of destroying their buisiness partners.

People here should understand that now both Maemo and Meego cannot be allowed to succeed by this new unholy alliance. Imagine how embarresing it would be if their new super-whizz phone couldn't do half the things the aging n900 can do with it's old hardware and poorly supported, supposedly inferior, operating system. I would be very wary of any future updates, expect a few spanners in the works. Normally this would be paranoia, but where Microsoft is involved paranoia is usually the best policy.

In the topsy-turvy world of buisiness law and ethics all that matters is producing returns for the shareholders. If it was the case that Nokia shareholders were mostly tech-savvy people then there may be some legal recourse to remove Elop and reverse this decision, but I can't see that happening. IANAL.

Someone here said recently that what Nokia should do is build a top-class set of tools and applications on top of Debian or some other established distro. I wish I could remember who said that so I could give them the kudos they deserve. That's obviously not going to happen now, but I propose that this community does all it can to gain access to the required firmware, tools and application source code so in conjunction with the wider open source community we, the people, can build a truly open firmware that can be all that Maemo should have been and MeeGo could have been.

One other point directed at those unenlightened people who suggest that popularity is a measure of quaity, two words: Justin Beiber :P

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After 10 years of developing in the Microsoft Ecosystem, my N900 finally taught me the right way: a full move back to Linux, 1.5 years ago.

When it comes to development, build-environments and flexibility of Maemo; I don't see how anything could come close with this new partnership.

What I fear most is the dissolving/fracturing of this community (TMO) that I respect and feel an accepted member of for some time now. I'm on here for at least 45mins a day. EVERY Day. Learning and eagerly waiting for what comes next. I expected this, as we all were, and feared it.

I'm a bit sick to my stomach, I've been working on the Calling All Innovators-10m Qt contest for some time now, Is that also dissolved? Are WE supposed to write everything in C# or VB.freaking.Net again, in Mono or VS under wine? I've moved on.

But now that it's here, and we've all spent countless hours learning the ins and outs of Qt (which I truly love) applicable for both ecosystems. Knowing that it was to be the programming environment moving forward... What a let down. What a horrible let down.

I know one thing though, I'll keep my N900 in a special place once it dies, to remember. 2010: the year I discovered software Freedom was possible.

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quality is irrelevant from a business POV - and Justin definitely brings in the $$$

Re: Nokia CEO Elop lays groundwork for new strategy to be announced next month, a move away from meego? Hello WP7!!
 

Definitely, a _good_move_away_ from Nokia (-13.79% at time of speaking) :p

How come you can shoot your own foot multiple times without feeling any pain? :eek:

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I hate to say this but QT will only exsist as a hobbiest dream that will not gain momentum now the sky is full of Microsoft merger with Nokia.

I had a strong feeling this is the biggest news probably ever to come out from Nokia but alas what will come of it will take a while to see yet.

What i am also wondering is what direction can this forum take with Maemo dead and buried and Meego to follow the same fate, we are left with WM7 on the face of it but Nokia will obviously make clear the road they will take from here very soon.
Qgil is a puppet and he got himself really dangled didnt he !.

Many people are damming this move as is clear to see on here but i tell you it is really exciting for me as a pessimist i truly believe in reality is the best move Nokia has ever made and will certainly in time (not too long i hope) bring them out of the shallows back to the limelight IF they go the direction i think they will.

Now i am so glad i stuck with my N900's as i have a feeling this is going to be very big indeed.

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Reading the news about this on the internet it's amazing, almost entirely negative reaction. Even comments on CNN are almost all negative about it.

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because it is negative..

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cnn "2 turkeys dont make an eagle" XD

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I think that was me, or what I was trying to articulate :)

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=69351