Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

Android outsells iOS already. iOS outsells Maemo. Symbian outsold them both.

I doubt there will be a combination of WebOS + MeeGo; however they do share similar hardware though.

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

I agree. If it was going to happen, it would have happened already. I do think there's a chance they might have a closer look at Qt if it gains enough traction though, especially if it gains more traction than new WebOS devices.

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

I was thinking about the same thing. I don't think meego and webos cores are very different, and Palm can use their UI on top of meego. This way they can focus more on features , application store, user interface and just take the low end core, not to mention qt applications that will probably been build for nokia meego devices that will work on palm devices too. It's a win -win situation for both companies(Nokia and Palm/HP)

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

My faith in Nokia and Meego is rekindled once more by this, even if it's still all speculation.

It shouldn't be THAT hard to be able to incorporate/hack/run Android apps and even the Android market on Meego?

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

Well well well :) Read the other day about marketing and cars. I think the article/blog was from 2006 or something. The dude discussed the market share of different european cars in the USA. He came to the conclusion that since VW was declining rapidly in the US, it could only mean that VW soon would hit the wall in Europe due to lack of mind share and identity.

Such "analysis" as the one above surely is rediculous, and it is easy to see it, yeat the US analysis of the phone market is similar but worse. First of all, the US doesn't have a phone market. The market in the US is ruled by operators, treating customers as puppets, and for some odd reason, the customers simply abide. Second, the markets for phones are also very different within Europe, and Europe is very different from Asia and so on. Simply put, what is going on in the US has practically no effect elsewhere. Everyone knows this except americans by the looks of it. The rise of Android and Apple globally, is due to excellent global marketing by Apple and Google, and this include detailed understanding of the vareous markets, and the will to pursue these markets. Being based in the US, it is only natural they went for the home market first.

One has to speculate why there are so many US bloggers when there aren't even a real market for phones. Maybe that is the reason, I don't know, it is strange for sure.

But one thing is certain, reading any kind of US based analysis and prediction of the market for phones is simply laughable, and it is getting boring boring boring.

So, how will Nokia attack the US market? It is impossible, because there is no market. There is no market to enter, there is nothing to attack. The only way in, is to go to bed with some operator.

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

Apologies for tarring every american with such a generalising brush...

but the opinion that Nokia is doomed, if not already dead and buried is largely from tech blogs and journos in the USA. Here are 2 from a 5 seconds google. Yes there are others, one vocal russian blogger in particular has turned on Nokia in recent months as well.
I do take them with a pinch of salt, but people I know do and have read them and commented to me about them.
I can't even be bothered to link anything from Gizmodo....

http://www.businessweek.com/blogs/europeinsight/archives/2009/09/is_nokia_already_dead_in_us_market.html

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2010/07...us-go-android/

That's not to say I think Nokia is perfect. I think everyone here appreciates that Nokia has work to do, especially following the N900 experience, which is largely outside even the Ovi ecosystem, and poorly supported by Nokia compared to lowend symbian devices even.

For the record, I do tend to stick to mainly UK based blogs, especially regarding mobile tech. the phonesshow tends to be the choice for me, and always seems reasonably balanced.

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

what android apps?? I have heard this zillions times before still no one says what apps in market is sooo important and can not already be ported to qtquick?

meego should not have dalvik it will just kill the infrastruce in meego and its not that simple to port dalvik. different platform different UI etc..

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

I think it's enough to just look at games available in Android.

Do you own an Android device? Have you used one for more than a couple of hours?

I have an HTC Desire HD for only 3 weeks now and I would not go back to the N900, even if you could overclock it to 2GHz and install Meego on it with FULL support for life from Nokia.

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

Yes!! Let's exercise a little restraint and just pick one to beat!

Re: Why I think Nokia CEO Elop will not move away from Symbian/MeeGo Qt strategy
 

I feel quite the opposite. I am posting this from my galaxy tab, and honestly I feel like the os should be switched. I would love to have Maemo on my tablet as I feel it is capable of more. Android is ok, but I am very much not impressed, and I would not have it on my next phone. I am not ready to give up my N900 without a better replacement.