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Faustino 2011-02-11 07:41
Goodbye MeeGo; We hardly knew ye
 
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...mer-microsoft/

It's predictable news.. but unfortunate too for many.

So the N900 truly was the last of it's era.

jerryfreak 2011-02-11 07:55
Re: Goodbye MeeGo; We hardly knew ye
 
says nothing about dropping meego

abill_uk 2011-02-11 08:04
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Yep i second that BUT i have to say that IF Nokia go full swing with Microsoft then for sure as i am breathing today we will never see Meego as Windows would be the future for Nokia.

Why didnt Nokia stop long time ago with dreams of Maemo amd Meego , get to where it should have been years ago and join forces with Bill Gates?.

Although very sad to read what is happening, it at least WILL be a positive move forward on mobile OS AND please remember the N900 is indeed fully progammable leaving it open for Windows Mobile.

Give me this anytime but thoughts are leading to being hacked and exploited from the off... good thing i think.

Windows mobile = anti virus/spam etc etc against the world of Gates haters. hmmmmmm.

Faustino 2011-02-11 08:05
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They actually haven't.. they'll still release a MeeGo device by the end of the year..

But we all know what that will mean.. it will be a great device with little or no support. Would you put yourself through it again knowing that it won't lead anywhere?

abill_uk 2011-02-11 08:13
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That is pure speculation and you should have learned by now not to listen to Nokia or its hype... better to wait untill it is actually released as a product before any guarentee's.

EDIT.... if you remember we was supposed to have a Meego device by the end of LAST year !!!.

mikecomputing 2011-02-11 08:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jerryfreak (Post 941554)
says nothing about dropping meego
Get real and stop dream now its over.

WebOS next...

Hoshiro 2011-02-11 08:24
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IT'S THE END OF THE FREE WORLD GUYS AND GALS!!!
Nice having known ya...
:(

Faustino 2011-02-11 08:27
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Why are Nokia making a huge mistake?

After it's dismal sales figures Maemo could hardly be called a major success. Yes us techy types who own an N900 love it. But you should see my girlfriend trying to use it.. do you think she either knows about or gives a **** about overclocking? .. we're talking about the average consumer here. That's who brings the money in.

WP7 is a very capable platform and if they learn to adapt to Nokia as much as Nokia need to.. it could be a very good business move.

jaimex2 2011-02-11 08:53
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faustino (Post 941637)
Why are Nokia making a huge mistake?

After it's dismal sales figures Maemo could hardly be called a major success. Yes us techy types who own an N900 love it. But you should see my girlfriend trying to use it.. do you think she either knows about or gives a **** about overclocking? .. we're talking about the average consumer here. That's who brings the money in.

WP7 is a very capable platform and if they learn to adapt to Nokia as much as Nokia need to.. it could be a very good business move.
Actually my gf wants to buy my n900 and is constantly asking me to get an Android phone so she can have my n900 =\ She isn't computer savy in the slightest but can use Maemo fine. She finds it easier and more intuitive.

geneven 2011-02-11 08:53
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But this is impossible! What happens to step 4 of 5?

patlak 2011-02-11 09:26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaimex2 (Post 941696)
Actually my gf wants to buy my n900 and is constantly asking me to get an Android phone so she can have my n900 =\ She isn't computer savy in the slightest but can use Maemo fine. She finds it easier and more intuitive.
N900 can be used by the average user. I've seen couple of girls in a shop in my city using N900s. My ex, she completely disregarded the thought of an iphone when she saw my N900.

Anyhow, bad move from Nokia, they just became HTC, purely hardware manufacturer. They don't differ anymore, from a leader and innovator, they just became a slave.

geneven 2011-02-11 09:43
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I would like to add to my post above that I was nauseated by the "step ___ of 5" rhetoric for years, because it was just pie in the sky putting off the responsibility for a good product into the utopian future. So now the rainbow ends at a dump. Not really all that surprising, but sad.

blipnl 2011-02-11 09:45
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Can't we just port Maemo5 to MeeGo or WP7 since it's open and persumably Nokia hardware? Running Android apps too soon, I might be happy with that.

zifis 2011-02-11 09:48
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I think its as simple as that:

Nokia was cornered by it's own Stockholders for loosing huge market share firstly to iphone and then to android, MS came along waving big cash at their greedy wrinkled faces, got the partnership, NOKIA stockholders flew happily back to their mansions to count the cash, we are left with WM7 a crap OS...

Faustino 2011-02-11 09:48
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And now it's confirmed that Qt will have no place.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/n...s-phone-devel/

benlau 2011-02-11 09:58
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First of all , I hate Microsoft. I love Linux.

But in fact, if Nokia just say they will release WP7 togather with MeeGo. I am absolutely fine with it. I still can get my new Linux phone. But now... they delayed the launch of MeeGo , but stopped the support of Maemo..

I am lost , I don't know what I could do for their platform... At least I won't write software for WP7 unless I got high paid.

johnel 2011-02-11 10:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 941697)
But this is impossible! What happens to step 4 of 5?
Step 4 or 5 was n900 & maemo.

Step 5 of 5 was spectaculat f***-up of potential successful device & OS, install a member of the "IT" mafia and begin your assimilation into the Microsoft-Borg collective.

Thus Steps 1 to 5 are now completed.

johnel 2011-02-11 10:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by benlau (Post 941894)
First of all , I hate Microsoft. I love Linux.

But in fact, if Nokia just say they will release WP7 togather with MeeGo. I am absolutely fine with it. I still can get my new Linux phone. But now... they delayed the launch of MeeGo , but stopped the support of Maemo..

I am lost , I don't know what I could do for their platform... At least I won't write software for WP7 unless I got high paid.
Don't believe the corporate crap.

MeeGo and WP7 are polar opposites and cannot not in any way "co-exist".

If a Meego device is ever released it won't be supported in the normal sense. They may release it to recoup development costs but after that I think the meego platform will be canned.

Nokia's software development resources are limited and Nokia have decided to concentrate on Windows Phone development.

Meego as a commercial platform is dead. It's only state of existence will be a community project.

TA-t3 2011-02-11 10:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Faustino (Post 941637)
Yes us techy types who own an N900 love it. But you should see my girlfriend trying to use it..[,,]
That's what I thought too (N900: For techy types). But then one day I saw a teenager girl using a N900 on the bus.. she seemed utterly comfortable with doing whatever it was that she did. Keyboard out, keyboard in (the Mercedes-door sound was what alerted me to the fact that she was using an N900). Maybe she used that Facebook application I've never bothered with myself? Or messaging? I don't know.

But it turned around my thinking about the N900. When my old mother complained that it was impossible to use her new Samsung phone to read or write messages (too tiny fonts, too difficult to figure out) I handed her my N900. She found it utterly simple. Large readable icons, messages easy to read (they show up on the front before you even start the sms application), easy to phone.. perfect.

xuggs 2011-02-11 10:18
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I never had hopes for meego anyways, while iphone and android are doing wonders, meego is still trying to hatch, i mean seriously with a competition like that, you don't keep delaying things. Nokia screwed up themselves and nobody else is to blame. Now MS will dictate their terms and meego will just be another maemo IMO. Of course some potential in the tablet space but with ipad and honeycomb, that is hardly going to materialize.

RDilus 2011-02-11 10:43
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is nokia lost there minds co-up with MS
cmon nokia made epic OS and epic Phones
they dont need MS
stay with Symbian OS and MeeGo!
or just cp-up with Google Android
but dont do it with MS!

geneven 2011-02-11 10:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TA-t3 (Post 941938)
That's what I thought too (N900: For techy types). But then one day I saw a teenager girl using a N900 on the bus.. she seemed utterly comfortable with doing whatever it was that she did. Keyboard out, keyboard in (the Mercedes-door sound was what alerted me to the fact that she was using an N900). Maybe she used that Facebook application I've never bothered with myself? Or messaging? I don't know.

But it turned around my thinking about the N900. When my old mother complained that it was impossible to use her new Samsung phone to read or write messages (too tiny fonts, too difficult to figure out) I handed her my N900. She found it utterly simple. Large readable icons, messages easy to read (they show up on the front before you even start the sms application), easy to phone.. perfect.
In a fit of stupidity, I gave a compterphobic friend a N900. She insisted on paying me back for it. She mainly takes pictures with it, but she loves it for some reason.

x61 2011-02-11 11:06
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Cell phone history: Motorola V6 -> Nokia 6620 -> Nokia N95 -> Nokia 900 -> ?(certainly no nokia)

byaru1 2011-02-11 11:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaimex2 (Post 941696)
Actually my gf wants to buy my n900 and is constantly asking me to get an Android phone so she can have my n900 =\ She isn't computer savy in the slightest but can use Maemo fine. She finds it easier and more intuitive.
That's so funny :)

My loves my N900 a great deal. Just because of two things:

1. Movies
2. Movies

/e

evan 2011-02-11 11:24
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It seems we are stuck at step 4.
and step 5 actually means community support for both maemo and meego.

•Elop clarified that MeeGo will ship this year but "not as part of another broad smarpthone platform strategy, but as an opportunity to learn."

we are full of opportunities, right.....

mikecomputing 2011-02-11 11:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by geneven (Post 941697)
But this is impossible! What happens to step 4 of 5?
the man who said that jumped the train and did go webos now we knows why

glassflag 2011-02-11 11:52
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From what they said at the press conference there will still be a Meego device but it will be a hardware and software test aimed at geeks and probably won't be marketed at all.

So it's the N900 all over again.

jnack95 2011-02-11 11:56
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And now it is confirmed that Nokia has absolutely no idea of what it is doing or where it is going.....maybe enough people will buy WP7 phones to make it worth it. After experiencing windows 6.5 on a touch HD I have no intention of EVER buying a phone with windows on it again. Samsung may be the next hope....bye Nokia, it was fun. At least I have a 770, N800 and N900 to prove that at one time you thought progressively.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faustino (Post 941867)
And now it's confirmed that Qt will have no place.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/11/n...s-phone-devel/

devaler 2011-02-11 16:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by evan (Post 942058)
It seems we are stuck at step 4.
and step 5 actually means community support for both maemo and meego.

•Elop clarified that MeeGo will ship this year but "not as part of another broad smarpthone platform strategy, but as an opportunity to learn."

we are full of opportunities, right.....
Man am I glad you brought that up. For years all I seemed to hear was "just wait for step 5", when step 5 was a nebulous idea that kept changing as Nokia's inner management held pissing matches.

m4r0v3r 2011-02-11 17:11
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I wouldn't mind another phone like the N900, even if they do the same and drop support after one or three updates.

Nyrath 2011-02-11 17:49
Re: Goodbye MeeGo; We hardly knew ye
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Faustino (Post 941637)
Why are Nokia making a huge mistake?

After it's dismal sales figures Maemo could hardly be called a major success. Yes us techy types who own an N900 love it. But you should see my girlfriend trying to use it.. do you think she either knows about or gives a **** about overclocking? .. we're talking about the average consumer here. That's who brings the money in.

WP7 is a very capable platform and if they learn to adapt to Nokia as much as Nokia need to.. it could be a very good business move.
I fear that is not the case.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=201


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