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extendedping 2011-02-15 12:52

Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Can greed really save that malfunctioning corporation called Nokia?

I wonder if Elop's dad told him after the deal "I don't go to bed with no whore, and I don't wake up with no whore".

Any way It will be very interesting to see if liquidating the hangers (Meego, Maemo, Symbian) can bring the stock price back up.

Why did you do it Ballmer? Cause it was wreckable?

tkatchev 2011-02-15 13:09

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 946980)
Why did you do it Ballmer? Cause it was wreckable?

Naw, he's not that evil.

Simply put: WinPhone is currently an even bigger failure than Symbian. Microsoft couldn't get any hardware manufacturers to sign up for WinPhone, so they had to bribe and acquire Nokia, or else they had a very real risk of not releasing any WinPhone phones at all.

marxian 2011-02-15 13:15

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Blue Horseshoe loves Nokia.

ysss 2011-02-15 13:16

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
This is a case of 2 desperate entities working out a deal to save each other's asses.

MS has the 'current' and marketable software, ready... with no market.

Nokia has the right market (Customers who don't care about the software/ecosystem), but no 'ready' software...

...and apparently MS is desperate enough to sweeten the deal for Nokia by infusing billions of dollars for this to happen.

extendedping 2011-02-15 13:17

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
I almost feel Like Ballmer sent Elop over to Nokia HQ disguised in a janitor's suit.

extendedping 2011-02-15 13:18

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marxian (Post 946991)
Blue Horseshoe loves Nokia.

That's it end the thread, best quote ever....

extendedping 2011-02-15 13:26

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 946993)
This is a case of 2 desperate entities working out a deal to save each other's asses.

MS has the 'current' and marketable software, ready... with no market.

Nokia has the right market (Customers who don't care about the software/ecosystem), but no 'ready' software...

...and apparently MS is desperate enough to sweeten the deal for Nokia by infusing billions of dollars for this to happen.

I'm confused if Nokia has the people who don't care about the software, wouldn't you say they have at least 2 (Symbian, Meego) and soon to be meego to serve them? Considering they don't care bout the os/ecosystem?

ysss 2011-02-15 13:45

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by extendedping (Post 947004)
I'm confused if Nokia has the people who don't care about the software, wouldn't you say they have at least 2 (Symbian, Meego) and soon to be meego to serve them? Considering they don't care bout the os/ecosystem?

I said 'customers who don't care about software/ecosystem'. People who bought Nokia candybar and featurephones without knowing what OS has been powering their devices.

And I remember reading very very low numbers of users of Nokia feature phones and smartphones whom actually install and use 3rd party apps or even use the web browser, both of which are sizeable avenue streams of all current smartphone platforms.

tkatchev 2011-02-15 13:47

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 946993)
This is a case of 2 desperate entities working out a deal to save each other's asses.

MS has the 'current' and marketable software, ready... with no market.

Nokia has the right market (Customers who don't care about the software/ecosystem), but no 'ready' software...

...and apparently MS is desperate enough to sweeten the deal for Nokia by infusing billions of dollars for this to happen.

Nonsense.

Microsoft doesn't really care whether WinPhone succeeds or not. If they want, they can subsidize their mobile division for the next decade, without ever turning a profit.

Nokia, on the other hand, is finished if WinPhone doesn't have stellar sales. (And it won't have stellar sales, you'd have to be a special kind of idiot to believe that WinPhone has any chance at success.)

bugelrex 2011-02-15 13:53

Re: Ballmer and Elop...the new Gordon Gekko/Bud Fox?
 
If you've watched wall st 2, you'll find that both of them ended up very very very rich and successful


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