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Morphic 2011-02-18 17:46

Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
It seems there will be no open source software available for Nokias using WP7. Doesn't look good for Nokia...

shallimus 2011-02-18 17:53

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Morphic (Post 949909)
It seems there will be no open source software available for Nokias using WP7. Doesn't look good for Nokia...

Not quite "no open source software". More "no software where the license requires you to provide the source to anyone". A subtle distinction (and not much help if you want to provide your *GPL project via the WP Marketplace(?!)) but a distinction nonetheless.

Please don't misconstrue this message as support for MSFT's stance.

exo 2011-02-18 22:55

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shallimus (Post 949916)
Not quite "no open source software". More "no software where the license requires you to provide the source to anyone". A subtle distinction (and not much help if you want to provide your *GPL project via the WP Marketplace(?!)) but a distinction nonetheless.

Please don't misconstrue this message as support for MSFT's stance.

It's mainly the 'modification' clause, since the MSFT application store is the only way to load applications onto your phone (except the paid developer program) this clause is incompatible with single appstore models. This is the reason it specifically mentions GPLv3, there are many other open source licenses that are perfectly compatible with the conditions.

Apple has the exact same thing in their terms and conditions.

EDIT: FYI

soabwahott 2011-02-18 23:03

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shallimus (Post 949916)
If I wanted an iPhone, BB, Android or WP7 phone, I would have bought one already.

Brilliant signature!

Thank you for suming up my thoughts exactly...

:)

funkmunk 2011-02-19 17:37

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
There has been a correction..I read somewhere im not sure where though..

Microsoft will now allow more open-source apps...

ysss 2011-02-21 15:23

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
ars technica enlightens:

http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/new...should-too.ars

gerbick 2011-02-21 15:43

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 951922)

*Waits for the "It's an American blog, why should I listen to those yankees!?" stance...

windows7 2011-02-21 15:47

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Well no surprise there. This was one of the first things i noticed from the micro$oft CEO announcement, that they intended to provide micro$oft live services (WOW), well for those who do not know, micro$oft live is required to play xbox games online, games which end users have already payed for (same games in PSX3 and other consoles, can go online for free, unlike micro$oft which makes you pay or you wont be able to play the game online), and that is one of the reasons why only sad muppets with less sense then money buy xbox's, why would anyone want to pay for a service which is already free???? Someone should truly sue these crooks.

efekt 2011-02-21 15:49

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
It's an American blog! Why should I listen to those yankees!?

Here ya go ;)

gerbick 2011-02-21 16:03

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Windows7... second time you've claimed that XBOX Live has a mandatory fee.

XBOX Live Silver is absolutely free.

ysss 2011-02-21 16:16

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
In this forum:

We form incorrect conclusions based on mistaken assumptions... then verbally attack each others ruthlessly based on those errors...

..when a factual correction is presented, pretend it's a personal attack on your intelligence and assault the offender with an ad hominem riposte.

See also: OUTSIDE

abill_uk 2011-02-21 16:27

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 951961)
In this forum:

We form incorrect conclusions based on mistaken assumptions... then verbally attack each others ruthlessly based on those errors...

..when a factual correction is presented, pretend it's a personal attack on your intelligence and assault the offender with an ad hominem riposte.

See also: OUTSIDE

Yeah and that thread should be bloody framed it is that hilarious hahaha.

gerbick 2011-02-21 17:41

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 951961)
We form incorrect conclusions based on mistaken assumptions... then verbally attack each others ruthlessly based on those errors...

..when a factual correction is presented, pretend it's a personal attack on your intelligence and assault the offender with an ad hominem riposte.

I don't like your tone. You're one of those eyePhoney lovers. You misspelled assumptions... added umptions for some reason.

LOL!!!!1

Wow. It is easier to be a troll than make sense.

wmarone 2011-02-21 18:49

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 951953)
Windows7... second time you've claimed that XBOX Live has a mandatory fee.

XBOX Live Silver is absolutely free.

As I understand it, XBOX Live Silver is also completely useless and you need Gold to do any sort of multiplayer.

Also, this is the only thing Microsoft could plausibly do. They hate open source and consider the GPL the enemy; it's best they actually be straightforward regarding it.

It is, of course, this attitude and their demand for total control over WP7 that will ensure I never touch a device that runs it.

windows7 2011-02-22 12:40

Re: Microsoft bans open source on Windows Phone 7 Marketplace
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 951953)
Windows7... second time you've claimed that XBOX Live has a mandatory fee.

XBOX Live Silver is absolutely free.

Question: What is Xbox Live Silver?

Answer: Xbox Live Silver is a free version of the Xbox Live service. The main difference between the Gold and Silver levels of service is that you can't play online multiplayer games with Xbox Live Silver. You can still download content from the Xbox Live Marketplace, download games in the Xbox Live Arcade, and keep a friends list so you can chat and share your gamer profile and achievements.

So do you find acceptable that Micro$oft still makes you pay for something which you already paid for, in order for you to play the game online? The fact is with other consoles you don't have to, and they don't block you from access public servers.


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