N950 with MeeGo this year, but who trusts Nokia anymore?
 

I can't understand anything from Nokia theses days:
Qt yes, Qt nope...
S40, Symbian, MeeGo, Windows Phone 7...

http://mynokiablog.com/2011/02/22/vi...hip-this-year/

I really like my N900, but I don't think I would buy any more Nokia devices until they have a clear vision (and execution) of what they want to do with open source and Qt.

It would be very funny if they finally launch a MeeGo device before a Windows Phone one.

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I don't trust Nokia, but if they release a Meego device and it is decent I will probably buy it after it has proven itself. I won't assume they'll be fixing anything after release, so if it has problems I can't live with I won't buy it. And also if, as rumoured, the device doesn't have a keyboard, I probably won"t buy it because I love having a real keyboard on my N900. I'm not in a rush to upgrade, I can see myself living with my N900 for at least another year, but its limited RAM (if nothing else) means I'll want an upgrade sooner or later, just so long as it is suffciently like an improved N900.

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I would also wait if it doesn't have hw keyboard.

Another feature I'd like to see before any upgrade is a resistive multitouch screen, best of both worlds.

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If it has the hw keyboard, I am getting it. Is one of my favourite features on the N900. I am hoping that it will also have the latest SoC in it (at least A9s). :p

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I've said this once before but I'll say it again. No more Nokia for me. Well, at least for the time being. Finnish-company my ***, I don't really like them anymore since what they did to MeeGo. Believe it or not but now the old CEO's would be better choice for Nokia than the current one. It's odd to admit it but I miss Vanjoki. Bring him back and maybe then I'll buy Nokia's MeeGo-phone, if they ever will make one.

So far I'm looking for WebOS from HP. Otherwise it's going to be Intel and Aava for MeeGo-phone.

Please note : I'm not saying that WPh7 would be bad, I'm not just interested in it. Same goes for Android, those do not meet my expectations and Bada is not live yet, as far as I know.

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If things go to plan I think we will see a MeeGo device this year.
Problem is, with M$ clanking around in the engine room, will they stick a spanner in the works and demand a crippled release to scuttle the Good Ship MeeGo in favor of pushing people onto WP7 devices. Remember, M$ hates open source and Qt and would want (read as "be desperate") to get WP7 to market in quantity, and they're not gonna do that if MeeGo turns out to be the killer O/S we're all hoping for.

When it does arrive, I'll certainly give it a good look. I've already got an upgrade path sorted, so I'm gonna be in possession of an N900 and the new MeeGo device when it happens. Should be an awesome combination, IMO.

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i hope it will be cool as maemo , and a battery that lasts for 3-4 days with GPRS or wifi always on ?

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who'd trust Nokia now after all they did was killing each and every devices they created lol. Not me!

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I'm due a phone upgrade in August. If Nokia have launched a viable N900-alike Meego device I will get it. It will need Flash 10.x support and a hardware keyboard. Those are "deal-breakers" if not present.

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I would immediately buy a meego device from another company. But buying another device from nokia, treated half-hearted from the beginning, is nothing I'm looking forward to.

It's only sarcastic to use "meego" and "future disruptions" in one sentence.

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I still trust Nokia, but as Retsaw said, it will be better to wait the next devise to make its proves. By the way if there is no keyboard it will surely not worth to be bought.

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Trust Nokia? No. Buy a MeeGo device? That's a per device decision.

It's probably not going to have a hardware keyboard, probably no stylus/glove usage, it will have poorer support than a mainstream device and lack essential features, because it is yet again an early adapters OS. And this time we know there's no upgrade path. At all.

So, knowing that, what's left? Will it be more locked down or can we still use EasyWhatever on top? I don't know. The competition is growing more powerful, too.

I am not sure what the N950 has to offer that goes beyond what Dalvik has to offer. I am not even sure it'll go beyond the N900.

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This (hypothetical N950) could succeed, If it would have at least all the hardware components the other high end devices have, like Samsung Galaxy S2: dual-core CPU >1Ghz, 1GB RAM, 8MP camera, A-GPS, NFC, digital compass, and so on.

Also if it would have Dalvik VM, many Android-developers and Android-fans would gladly transfer to Meego.

I am just afraid, that Elop really is that Trojan horse and even if there would be some kind of plans for N950, Elop will sabotage it somehow like not allowing high end hardware to end to this first Meego phone, because it would be a real threat to MSFT.

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icing on the #nokia #fail cake

i went into an official nokia store today to buy a replacement WH-205 headset. Of course, despite being on their website, it was "not on our computer" but I could buy the alternative headset for 4 times the price, which (after 10mins of haggling - "can't open the packet", "no refund") I managed to test on my n900 and confirm the controls did not work with the music player. Then got a tirade of abuse when I mentioned I had installed the headphone daemon to use the headset button to skip tracks. They finished by saying - complete with eye-roll - "you've voided your warranty by installing 3rd party software".

On an n900? i thought that was the whole point? i couldn't even be bothered to say "if i only installed nokia software my phone would have about 10% of the functionality it has now"

came home and bought a genuine wh-205 headset off ebay for $10. would rather put up with a couple of days delivery wait than have anything to do with nokia ever again. much as i love the original concept of this phone and the passionate and loyal community, my n900 will be replaced by an alternative manufacturer's device running android in coming months.

nokia front-line staff obviously as clueless as their senior management.

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The N950 is going to be the only open phone for quite sometime. I will buy it and show nokia that there is still interest in a nokia meego phone. Hopefully it will serve me well until the next disruption.

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If N950 works even nicer than my N900 today, I don't see why I shouldn't buy it. MeeGo is an open source OS and the community does it pretty well at developing new apps.

I'm not for MS-Nokia marriage but I don't see why it should affect my decision.

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well i like my n900 but i think Samsung Galaxy s II would be the next without dump my n900

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I only hope that the device will be a phone and we are not about to have another surprise from nokia.

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The lack of clarity from Nokia at the moment is their greatest problem.

If it's confusing for us the users - imagine what it's like for those attempting to work there and drive the platform(s) that they may or may not be targeting, depending on who you listen to, and at what point in time.

If I could choose a strategy for Nokia right now, given the announcements already made, then I'd say that Symbian is to be phased out and replaced by Windows 7. Meanwhile Meego is to be developed for high-end platforms with the goal of generating a Nokia-centered ecosystem like Android or iPhone.

Now can I have Elop's salary? Pretty please?

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A stack of fancy hardware will be of no value if we aren't able to make maximum use of it as we see best.

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any details on the N950?

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That's why it should run Meego and have Dalvik VM.

Every feature could be ripped out of the hardware and the same time the critical mass of number of applications would be there, as well as the fan base of Meego would go through the roof at once.

Addition to the hardware what is in Samsung Galaxy S2 (+NFC), it should have a qwerty-keyboard with the slide mechanism as it is in N900.

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I just found out that the new device will be running Maemo6.
http://forum.meego.com/showthread.php?t=2719&page=6

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Folks, I really believe there's nothing about trust here.

Our trust in a company or particular brand should be based on the product quality and reliability, and service performance levels, not simply their business strategy. As long as it's within ethical limits, there's really no reason to get upset and say we lose "trust" in a company when they change their business strategies to satisfy shareholders.

I mean, it would have been nice if Nokia continued with Meego development. But I don't think any trust was broken here, right? Did Nokia deceived or 'cheated' us into buying Maemo or N900 with the promise of Meego? Was there any damage done?

Every company at some point will shelve or "kill" a product development when it does not meet certain business sense. Can't really blame them right? Certainly can't say they cheated our trust - unless we're so fragile with our trust.

Now, if you really "trusted" Nokia in the first place, you would trust in their business judgements to come up with a much better product for their customers. Just like how you would trust your spouse and friends, right?

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I'd consider buying it if the hardware is a lot better than the N900...although after only 2 years that is really close together for me, I usually keep a phone for 4-6 years...

What I'd hope for: Landscape slider, 1.5Ghz+ dual core CPU (preferably ARM-based), 512MB+ RAM, resistive touch screen (preferably multitouch), everything else equal to or better than the N900.

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Definitely.

Since using the keyboard of the N900 I've changed my mind about it actually being there.
I didn't see any point of it on a touch-screen at first, but it's got far more uses than excuses.

If we had as much freedom as we do with the N900 then I'd be there in the queue for a MeeGo device.
And I know some bits of the N900 are closed, but they're Nokia's propriotery (sp) property and they do have a right to stop JOBSworths and other manufacturers getting hold of it.

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Wake me up when it comes.

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This could be the deal-breaker for me:-

Taken from Forum MeeGo.com
If this means that operators will be allowed to rip the bits out that they don't want us to see and use, then I'll definitely jump ship.:mad:

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I've been a Nokia follower for over 10 years.

During the candyphone era, their phones were always known to have the best UI and the best build quality. Their usability has been top notch, coupled with the industrial/rugged look. I owned a couple of those.

Later on they evolve to do more fashionable phones, with crazy and colorful designs... which I stayed away from, but I thought it's good for the company to take advantage of all these business opportunities (teenage texting was booming). I bought one of their basic phone from that era.

I never got into featurephones... I jumpedship to 'smartphones' rather early to Palm Treo lines (starting with the 600). I've always lamented why Nokia never released a proper smartphone with qwerty + touchscreen like Palm did. I thought that was a great form factor.

When I heard of the NIT project, I ordered an n770 right away... I was hoping Nokia would get on the 'smartphone/tablet' train and do it right... only to be disappointed by its overall interface and usability. I mean, I've gone through most of these (open *nix pocketables) with the sharp zauri already... I have no need to fund a giant's FOSS experiment again... but I thought "Nokia should be able to smoothen all the rough edges. They know how to. They'll know what's wrong."

Boy was I wrong.

Do I trust Nokia now?
I base my trust on what Nokia has given me, not by what it's promising the world through Elop.

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It will take a LONG time to gain any trust in Nokia now, they have screwed us big time with Maemo and is something the world has seen with their own eyes so Nokia you screwed us but mostly you have screwed yourselves !.

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I trust the Maemo/MeeGo team.

Rest of the Nokia? I don't care. Although it would be nice if Maps, Calendar and Ovi services would be usable on N950.

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The term 'future disruptive' goes right through me...I bet that pi$$es Intel off :D

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I am looking at the rapidly expanding HTC desire family which grow from strength to strength for my next phone. I won't be darkening Nokia's door anytime soon after Maemo. Nothing they or Elop says will make me want to buy into their future logic when each year for hte last two years they have changed their minds on which way they will go.

Meego would have to come with a free moon and be biblically good to even raise my interest in it or Nokia.


Is there a Meego / Maemo team? Does 1 person on 'part time' basis make a team?

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Yes, of course there is.

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The only Maemo team is this community as it sure as hell dont exist in Nokia !.

HERE http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=67905&page=85

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The thing is, realistically speaking, all the nay-sayers will buy the device as long as it truly achieves being freaking good, a true sucessor that accomplishes all that the N900 did and aimed to achieve but failed miserably due to lack of support.

I sincerely doubt that as long as the above become true, as in a dream come true, everyone won't buy it.

Although, the chances of that happening seem to be getting slimmier by the second...

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Think about this for a second:

If we don't buy the N950, we'll only prove Flop right. We need to support MeeGo and prove that Flop is wrong, so that he'll be forced to step down as CEO.

Whatever you decide to do, don't buy a winblows phail 7 phone. Rather look for MeeGo phones from other companies.

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You buy Nokia goods, you're channeling your money toward Elop. For all you know it's going to fund Nokia's future Microsoft collaboration (or for paying WP7 penalties)

I meant royalties.

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nokia must be aware of alien dalvic and if theres a braincell left at nokia i bet its thinking of producing hardware thats capable of allowing ports of android stuff, then they wont have to pay anything to google for android

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I say start war against Nokia.