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BigBadGuber! 2011-02-27 19:13

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by mishmich (Post 956748)
It sounds more like the strategy is to get people on to MS WP.

Mish

Nokia was doing it for decades in the third world.......way before MS

ericsson 2011-02-27 19:16

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 956722)
Is this related to the bread and the circus? Did the Romans give free bread to the people so that they went to the circus and got hooked on the violence?

LOL, you actually have no idea what I'm talking about do you?

mishmich 2011-02-27 19:26

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 956750)
Nokia was doing it for decades in the third world.......way before MS

You mean those places all our call centres, software development, and hardware factories are now?

Mish

mishmich 2011-02-27 19:40

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 956747)
I would agree... but the noise that my DVD burner was making while I burn my latest free Linux distro distracted me.

Sounds like it is time you upgraded from that old Dell I gave to charity five years ago to something more modern.

BigBadGuber! 2011-02-27 19:47

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
and Angola and Albania and Zambia.......

gerbick 2011-02-27 19:47

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by mishmich (Post 956773)
Sounds like it is time you upgraded from that old Dell I gave to charity five years ago to something more modern.

Oh thanks! That was you?

You left the porn on the hard drive. Sick stuff man... sick.

automagic68 2011-02-27 20:38

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
Will my Nokia Windows Phone include a file system, Bluetooth file tranfers and USB-OTG?

rm42 2011-02-27 20:43

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 956747)
I would agree... but the noise that my DVD burner was making while I burn my latest free Linux distro distracted me.

Almost anything can be turned into a bait and switch tactic if you look selectively as how it's positioned.

Are you trying to say that because Linux is available for free that it is also creating an unhealthy dependency? Remember that, since the code of free software is always available to you, you are never dependant on a single vendor for support.

gerbick 2011-02-27 21:09

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by rm42 (Post 956816)
Are you trying to say that because Linux is available for free that it is also creating an unhealthy dependency? Remember that, since the code of free software is always available to you, you are never dependant on a single vendor for support.

While that may be true; if a company knows that they're being pirated - Apple, Adobe, Windows inclusive - they're gonna have the stance of "Fine. Sooner than later, they will pay."

Adobe's Warnock has stated as much about Photoshop - 1 million or so licenses, way more than that out there. Sure, people could use GIMP, some shops have switched almost wholesale to that if they don't do print.

But as it stands, it's a difference of mentality that people are arguing about when they talk about Windows, its ecosystem, and Linux and its ecosystem.

It's not about being dependent on any thing; if you need help with Fedora, you might have to pay Red Hat. If you need help with Maemo, you might have to wait for Nokia or this community to help you. If you need help with Microsoft products, you might have to pay for that.

In all instances, you are dependent upon something other than yourself if it is out of your scope of ability and/or expertise. To say otherwise is true folly.

Linux is a free way to get a lot done. When you need very specific help, it sometimes sucks that there isn't a centralized place for help - but there's a lot of good natured folks that know a hell of a lot more than I. And Microsoft is so damn full of bugs, the centralized place for help became a necessity - and something of a crutch... still wasn't enough so I became a MCSE to resolve my own probs and be able to help others.

But as it stands, both directions (FOSS vs. closed source) end up feeding our addiction to gadgets, computers and Internet.

What Linus had in mind was basically the same as what Gates had in mind... a simple way to use a pile of silicon to make life a bit easier. Gates went about it in a very "buy out your competition" manner whereas Linux became a community way to avoid being what Microsoft had become - full of bugs, license unfriendly and ultimately something that was used to go into corporations almost like a trojan and build dependency.

But in the long-term, they both serve our needs and addictions.

gerbick 2011-02-27 21:17

Re: The future of your Nokia Windows phone
 
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Originally Posted by automagic68 (Post 956812)
Will my Nokia Windows Phone include a file system, Bluetooth file tranfers and USB-OTG?

So far, it seems like a no to all of the above on current WP7 phones.

And that's probably why everybody, including myself, is trying to figure this strategic deal out.


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