Re: High Battery Consumption
 

ok i will give it a try
you don't need the output from top?

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

no, just the output from powertop

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

C2 is always more...

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

dmesg | tail
and
tail /tmp/Xorg.0.log
...can also give hints what is wrong and using CPU all the time.

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attached you can find the package lists

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Dude .. in my N900, to save battery i have reduced the screen brightness to pt 2 & have disabled the touch vibration .. these things showed me a greater impact on my n900 battery life though i dont use 3g here

for more info visit <removed>

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Xorg.0.log attached...

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Why do you have both battery graph AND battery eye installed, you are running an extra daemon than you need.

kernel power settings is still listed in that list, heavily implying you have not uninstalled it.

In fact I see a whole raft of things you where asked to remove before we started this whole troubleshooting procedure.

I give up. I can't do this. You didn't even click the thanks button.

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

hey dude, i check the packagelist

there are MANY packages i already uninstalled, today and months ago!!!

trust me!

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

UNINSTALL ALL FLASHLIGHT PROGRAMS, FMTX WIDGET, LENS COVER REMINDER, KERNEL POWER SETTINGS, ADVANCED POWER, MYMENU AND WTF THIS IS: offscr-anglemeter 1.0.1

THESE PROGRAMS POLL THE HARDWARE.
LIKE I KEPT SAYING!!!
OMG.

FFS.

MEGA F/PALM

/vi_

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Re: High Battery Consumption
 

advanced-power 0.4.2-4 user/desktop 188
advanced-power-monitor 0.5.3-3 user/utilities 216
ati85 1.4.1-1 user/science 2059
battery-eye 0.8-0pre1 user/utilities 204
com-ea-app-nfsuc 20.0.28 user/games 116200
community-ssu-enabler 0.6-5 user/system 84
docstogo 2.000.315 user/hidden 8152
drnoksnes 1.3.4 user/games 1260
fastsmsevo 0.1-7 user/utilities 64
flashlight-applet 0.4-5 user/desktop 284
flashlight-extra 0.1-3 user/desktop 152
flashlight-extra-gtk 0.2 user/desktop 96
kernel-power-settings 0.11 user/system 140

and many others

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already uninstalled these things, no idea why this **** is listening in the package list

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packages only disappear when i type for example:

dpkg -P kernel-power-settings

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ok sorry bro, I was outta my mind.

I cannot further trouble shoot this problem remotely. My only advice is to re-flash emmc and rootfs. This will give you a clean system. Fear not though, you have learned a great deal about what programs you like and which you don't. After a re-flash, you will know exactly what you want to install and how to customise the machine to your likening.

Don't fear the re-flash. I hosed my n900 in about 2 days when I got it. The next install lasted about a week. Then a month later I needed a re-flash again! My current install has lasted around a month now and is stable and safe. This is all part of the learning process.

When you reach a stable safe system, install backupmenu by robbiethe1st, make a backup of your system to your mmc then the next time (if ever again) you need to revert you can just revert to the backup.


Remember re-flash rootfs AND emmc.

Good luck.

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damn it... i flashed my n900 three or four times... i know what these means,
much work, that the system is like now

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You have problem exactly because you have system that is like now. Backup PIM data and restore it but do not restore applications from backup.

Try to restore default kernel. Btw do you have micro sd card inserted?

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micro sd... normally yes, these forenoon no

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Dude, as I suggested earlier here - READ MY THREAD. I have the exact same problem, and all the solution people suggested you here were raised in my thread as well - it could've saved you A LOT of time...

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i think that these are two different problems!
my n900 have 0% at C2 - C4
your n900 have on alle C stages %

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btw.
"normal" idle usage is something like in this pic on right side:
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9...0100412103.png
Still some spikes from cpu that could be probably from some daemon.

Just for reference.

.edit
And when comparing remember to check x-scaling

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BIG NEWS

after backup the full system with backupmenu and multiboot i had to reflash the stock kernel via maemo flasher

i will post the powertop output in a few minutes

i think we got it.... stay tuned

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can someone of the pro's tell me, if the output is normal yet...
i've already made friends with a reflash,
now i'm in the conflict of conscience!!

powertop: ( no widgets, no sdcard, offline and restarted )

any hints what's now to do?!

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Run powertop couple of times (to minimize margin for error) to get idle wakeups and use n900 for awhile and run powertop again. I mean that test your setup for couple of days before making any conclusions.

.edit
From here you can look for references:
http://wiki.maemo.org/N900_software_...ement#Powertop
I would say that something like ~500 wakeups and mostly in C4 state is pretty much ok for completely idle N900. This is not scientific measurement just stuff from my head.

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ok, i will uninstall not used things
will set up the kernel power and will observe the system with powertop and batterygraph

btw. how to clean up the maemo-user-package-list

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Please dont tell me you re-flashed both emmc and rootfs then DID NOT restore with backup menu?

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i created a backup with backupmenu
then i flashed only the kernel

no emmc no rootfs reflash

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after several problems, i did yesterday night a full reset.
i flashed the eMMC and the rootfs

i installed all programms, overclocked, cssu, ...

cheers

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yes. now it seems to stay at C4 level as it should when idle.

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This is my powertop output in case someone can help me find what drains my battery.
it's not a serious situation but I feel my battery can perform better (around 15% more)

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finally you got it! What you have there is about as good as you can get 'stock'. For further battery, enable smart reflex 1+2 and overclock 250-805. Don't install programs that poll the hardware or widgets that relentlessly autoupdate.

Job done.

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there are not enough picard f/palms in the world for this.

do EVERYTHING that was explained to the last guy including 'the procedure'. Come back, tell us what you have done and post your results. Only then can we trouble shoot.

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

Well, I didn't read the whole thread but from initial "top" output it seems the problem with hildon-home again. It can loop if some modification is done in "Application" menu. Or it is related with installation of some group application menu software, please search forum.

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Did you install flashlight-extra, camkeyd or dbus-switchboard? I would BET that any of these are your bad guys. If flashlight-extra is installed, you'll need to do this:
http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...p;postcount=19

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i played with smartreflex with following results:

250-850MHz: device reboot after enabling smartreflex
250-805MHz: device runs smooth without reboots

what does smartreflex exactly do? why it doenst run with 850MHz?
what about ignore nice load? 0 or 1?

cheers

EDIT: my kernel configuration

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please somebody with a good battery life post the output of powertop here so that people like me will get a chance to further decipher wt is going with our batteries.Thank you.

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i played with smartreflex with following results:

250-850MHz: device reboot after enabling smartreflex
250-805MHz: device runs smooth without reboots

what does smartreflex exactly do? why it doenst run with 850MHz?
what about ignore nice load? 0 or 1?

cheers

EDIT: my kernel configuration

Re: High Battery Consumption
 

i reflashed my phone recently and slowly started adding apps back on
and watching 2 see if any cause high cpu usgae when idle as i had that problem b4
i got to flash light extra hexahop and kanban and got high cpu usage so uninstalled kanban and hexahop and still had high cpu so uninstalled flash light extra and it stopped
i then installed flash light extra gtk version and cpu looked fine for a few hrs so installed hexahop and kanban and then got high cpu usage again so uninstalled both of them again and was still high cpu usage so uninstalled flash light extra gtk aswell and still having high cpu usage when the phone is idle
yet b4 i installed those apps it was running perfect not using any cpu usage unless i unlocked it and used it
now over night its draining the bttery real fast and battery graph is showing steady cpu usage while it should be doing nothing ??
is there settings left behind that can cause this?

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This talks about smartreflex.

Think of smart relfex as a scaling for the cpu voltage. How exactly it interacts with undervolting I am not sure, however from my own mesaurable results (with battery graph) I can see that the best way to minimise the gradient of the mAh curve is by using SR 1+2 and overclocking 250/805.

Unfortunatley 805 is the maximum you can overclock with SR enabled so you will have to choose, SR+max cpu of 805 or no SR and max CPU of 1150 (or whatever you hardware can take).

I for one have two schemes. 'profile':SR1+2 ON,CPU@250-500 with starving voltages and 'overclock':SR1+2 OFF,CPU@500-1000 with starving voltages.