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jeffsf 2011-02-28 21:18

I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Tired of using a N900 that:
  • Is so poor at multitasking that I can't answer the phone when it rings
  • Relies on 3rd-party apps for key features like MMS, iSync, bluetooth, and distinctive ring tones
  • Often fails to charge when the OEM charger cord is plugged in
  • Won't charge off many USB power adapters without a hacked cable
  • Discharges in under 6 hours during the day
  • Doesn't have decent non-weenie apps save for Angry Birds
  • Maps still suck and can't dial numbers
  • Browser crashes and can't dial numbers

Samsung Galaxy S 4G coming tomorrow. Advantages? Too many to list. Yes, it has ssh and rsync. Major disadvantages?
  • Can't record the audio output, just the microphone
  • Annoyingly tied to Google for sync (no iSync)
  • No hardware keyboard

I gave it a year and then some. PM if you want to buy a N900 that overclocks to 1000 MHz. If I want an "Internet tablet" I'll buy a second-generation iPad on Wednesday.

thumbs 2011-02-28 21:27

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
my n900 has never had any problems that you mention,,but maybe thats because i dont overclock to 1000mhz...

wmarone 2011-02-28 21:28

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Good to see people insulting other forum goers as "nerds."

festivalnut 2011-02-28 21:33

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
mine dont have they problems since i oc'd to 1000, cant remember the last time i missed a call because of lag. the multitasking is awesome, good luck with androids "multitasking" :/ battery usage depends how hard you hammer it as with any phone. ine charges fine (maybe your usb is loose? admittedly that is a bit of a n900 specific issue) the browser is far superior to android imho, the "weenieness" of the apps is a personal opinion, i like the ones i have very much.

droitwichgas 2011-02-28 21:35

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Given the tone of your email and the problems you appear to have I doubt you will have many satisfied N900 owners rushing to buy your phone as it does not sound like the best example around!

Perhaps a simple "I have a N900 for sale" may of of found more buyers/got you a better price?

With the recent CSSU develpments I have no similar issues with my unclocked N900.

Texrat 2011-02-28 21:42

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
I should have opened a virtual popcorn stand a long time ago...

Bazza 2011-02-28 21:47

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffsf (Post 957594)
Tired of using a N900 that:
  • Is so poor at multitasking that I can't answer the phone when it rings
  • Relies on 3rd-party apps for key features like MMS, iSync, bluetooth, and distinctive ring tones
  • Often fails to charge when the OEM charger cord is plugged in
  • Won't charge off many USB power adapters without a hacked cable
  • Discharges in under 6 hours during the day
  • Doesn't have decent non-weenie apps save for Angry Birds
  • Maps still suck and can't dial numbers
  • Browser crashes and can't dial numbers

Are you still using pr1.1???????? :D:D:D

Quote:

Samsung Galaxy S 4G coming tomorrow. Advantages? Too many to list. Yes, it has ssh and rsync. Major disadvantages?
  • Can't record the audio output, just the microphone
  • Annoyingly tied to Google for sync (no iSync)
  • No hardware keyboard

You will be bored within a week (although the screen is nice)

jeffsf 2011-02-28 21:55

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Yes, it is patched to 20.2010.36-2.002

Yes, it has problems even if using the stock (non-oc) kernel. I only went oc to see if that would resolve the responsivity problems. Moving to 750, 800, 900, or 1000 didn't help any. The screen responds as if it's on 'ludes as soon as there are a couple browser windows open.

Yes, I've reflashed.

Yes, I'm going to miss having shell access and scripting, but I need a functional phone that I can leave a browser window open and not have to wait 10-30 seconds for the phone to respond to the touch screen.

Yes, I do enjoy a lot of the ported-from-Linux apps, but I'll trade them for a functional phone.

qw3rty 2011-02-28 21:59

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Sounds like you have a faulty USB port. I understand your frustration, I had the same charging problems, but I sent it to Nokia and they fixed it up for free.

gazza_d 2011-02-28 21:59

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
see yer, wouldn't want to be yer....

Bazza 2011-02-28 22:02

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Look 52 users all sitting comfortably eating popcorn,watching and waiting.

Keep the noise down..:cool:

Edit

now 46 users they're dropping like flies....i will shut up now.

pass me the salted ones,

Acidspunk 2011-02-28 22:02

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Have fun with the toy you just bought.

Frappacino 2011-02-28 22:04

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
i have similar issues - when a call comes in alot of the time it disconnects when I try to answer it

has happened across multiple patches and across multiple reflashes.

very irritating, and pisses off my clients cause they have to call again

AndyNokia232 2011-02-28 22:07

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Maybe you got a dud? Sounds like there are some serious problems there!

But it's also about personal taste. Personally, (and I'm not just saying this) mine doesn't do any of the things you mention. I'm a noob, so no crazy modding except the downloading of safe stuff from the repositories. Overclocking has not been a consideration for me a) because I don't know what I'm doing and will probably cook the thing, and b) the beast runs just nicely, I don't feel I need to. But like I said, personal choice. I'm sure your new Galaxy will smell sweet coming out of it's box, but I also bet you'll miss your N900 pretty soon too.

AndyNokia232 2011-02-28 22:09

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Acidspunk (Post 957629)
Have fun with the toy you just bought.

Wow, I love your forum name!

atilla 2011-02-28 22:13

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
http://www.butlercountyiowa.com/imag...corn-stand.jpg

Mentalist Traceur 2011-02-28 22:18

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
In my experience, there's a relationship something like so:

Where...
w = [likelyhood of something going wrong]
k = [how much you know what you're doing]
s = [how little risks you take when dealing with thing you don't understand]
r = [random shitty luck factor]
...then:
w = (k-s)r

Obviously I'm just pulling this out of my ***, but most of the time, unless you got a shitty hardware batch that is either incompatible with the fancy uboot patches e-yes and matan implemented, or has a crappy usb port, the rest seems to more or less be dependent on the doing stupid ****, and how much you know about said stupid ****.

For instance, my N900 lately developed an instability where it crashes when I'm trying to use PgUp/PgDown/Home/End in combination with Shift to select large amounts of text (wait... how many phones let me map PgUp, PgDown, Home, and End, to my keyboard, without giving up any other keys already mapped to it...? Maybe something with WebOS? Android? I should hope so.) But do I ***** and moan at the phone? I get a little bit frustrated with it, yes, but the more I have observed the problem the more I realize it either has to do with some of the kernel parameter tweaks I've made, or some very rare bug exposed by CSSU installation - and I am getting pretty certain I've ruled out CSSU as of today.

As for overclocking, when overclocking to 1000MHz didn't fix your problems, that should've told you something: the problem isn't the CPU. (Speaking of which, folks, don't go encouraging the guy to not reveal that he overclocked the CPU - selling it without admitting that is just screwing over the guy who buys it, at least he's being honest.)

It's widely known the primary slowness problems on the N900 are I/O bottlenecks. At 600MHz the phone, clean out of the box, runs like 30 programs without slowing down. It's when you cram it with more and more crap, some of which fills ram and cpu cycles in the background, that everything starts slowing down. Yes, other phones don't have this problem, but other phones also benefit from a more diligently reinforced Q&A process, where-as here we have Extras/Testing/Devel, yet most people just go straight to Devel, and I wouldn't really blame them for it either, because Devel has like 25% of all the good stuff (and just three months ago, I would've estimated 50% of all the good stuff; when I got my N900, I would've said you have to go to devel to get proper functionality out of the phone, because that's how much was still in devel only).

But the point is, the phone isn't the problem. The problem is that just like a Windows box won't stop you from installing a program that blue-screens you upon running, nor will the N900.

As I've said plenty of times on here, if even one of the other phone OSs out there allowed you the freedom this one does, people would grind those to the point of being "Is so poor at multitasking that I can't answer the phone when it rings". The various companies who make those OSs chose to clamp down on your freedom so that they don't have to listen to all this irrational *****ing - the N900, mostly, doesn't - you're welcome. (Which is also why just reading "sucks at multitasking" in a criticism of the N900 probably makes people respond the way they do you your posts. Guess what, if I run a virus scanner and a virtual machine on the same Windows laptop, even the dual-core, 2.something GHz machines that are so common today will grind to a slowness untolerable. Does Windows and said laptop suddenly suck at multitasking?)

*Shrug* At the end of the day, not every phone is for everyone, so I wish you luck and more happiness with whatever else you get. But your post shows that you didn't know how to even begin to get the most out of the N900.

- Edit -

To be fair, given what was posted since I started typing, it is possible you're in one of those rare exceptions where random luck screws you over regardless of what you do, and it really may have been a faulty N900.

efekt 2011-02-28 22:18

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffsf (Post 957594)
Tired of using a N900 that:
  • Is so poor at multitasking that I can't answer the phone when it rings
  • Relies on 3rd-party apps for key features like MMS, iSync, bluetooth, and distinctive ring tones
  • Often fails to charge when the OEM charger cord is plugged in
  • Won't charge off many USB power adapters without a hacked cable
  • Discharges in under 6 hours during the day
  • Doesn't have decent non-weenie apps save for Angry Birds
  • Maps still suck and can't dial numbers
  • Browser crashes and can't dial numbers

Samsung Galaxy S 4G coming tomorrow. Advantages? Too many to list. Yes, it has ssh and rsync. Major disadvantages?
  • Can't record the audio output, just the microphone
  • Annoyingly tied to Google for sync (no iSync)
  • No hardware keyboard

I gave it a year and then some. PM if you want to buy a N900 that overclocks to 1000 MHz. If I want an "Internet tablet" I'll buy a second-generation iPad on Wednesday.

DON'T GO! WE NEED YOU!!!
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOooooooooo!!!!!!!
...
..
.
.
.

Wait a sec... do you mind reminding me who are you again?


Seriously, what a pointless thread :)

nathaneous 2011-02-28 22:27

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Samsung Galaxy S 2...good choice :)

j d 2011-03-01 01:56

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
somebody please delete this thread.

number41 2011-03-01 02:00

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Good riddance.

SavageD 2011-03-01 02:02

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Who is this "Nokia" you speak about?....o.o

9000 2011-03-01 02:29

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Dear OP, when you said you exhausted every possible ways to fix your phone delay issue, I could speak for some people here that, you don't. For one, not all N900 could operate normally after overclocking, very few users reported all the unexpected problems with overclocking kernel. Yours is one of them.

It's unfortunately the problem with the quality of the hardware you purchased. Probably not your fault.

However, I do appreciate the way you handle this and say goodbye here to us nicely. Unlike some goners, they'd come back and rant like we owe them for the eternity.

In short, good work. Rest in peace, you don't deserve their torment. Enjoy other phone. So long, though we hardly know you.

abill_uk 2011-03-01 02:58

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
This will be happening a lot more soon especially if Maemo is not hacked to a usable standard we are all used too from Symbian.

Good luck with your Galaxy... wise move !!!.

Bratag 2011-03-01 03:13

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 957754)
This will be happening a lot more soon especially if Maemo is not hacked to a usable standard we are all used too from Symbian.

Good luck with your Galaxy... wise move !!!.

Apparently the CSSU thread several hundred posts long escaped your notice.

geneven 2011-03-01 03:41

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Since as you say your N900 sucks, I would be glad to pay $100 for it, sacrificing myself to help you out.

abill_uk 2011-03-01 04:38

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 957758)
Apparently the CSSU thread several hundred posts long escaped your notice.

No it did not escape my notice as i have been watching progress from the day it was announced but the problem is Nokia still need to open source all components in the N900 and untill they do that it will always be a workaround situation resulting in a none complete OS as the stock OS is we have already.

Dont get me wrong here because them guys deserve a medal even getting as far as they have, they are battling with closed components and are doing very very well.

Problem is it is slow because of continuos testing and trying to get it right from start to finish and then getting it all together to make the OS complete all because of dammm Nokia !!!!.

Fcuck Nokia BIG time they have screwed us totally with the N900.

Daneel 2011-03-01 05:15

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alprazolam

p900 2011-03-01 05:20

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
are you sure you bought N900? :D

gerbick 2011-03-01 05:55

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Gaffney? Damn... I'm in Greenville.

Scottlfa 2011-03-01 05:59

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Nice :) Welcome Neighbor.

I bought a Samsung Galaxy S 4G for everyday use. Never did quite get fmms to ever work right [and the wife like's to send pics alot]. Other nagging mobile issues have been nipping at my ability to just use the device in a phone capacity ... so I add the Galaxy to the group.

I love the community effort put forward to make up for Nokia's very short sighted way of handling this device. I will keep the device, update it and hack around with it as a hobby device now. Maybe flash MeeGo etc and have some fun with it now that it does not HAVE to answer work or IT calls -lol-.

bills2north 2011-03-01 06:53

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Yeah. n900 can be a pain in the ars judging by this and other posts. I guess the 'luck' factor is working for me. ;) I was waiting for next gen commie when I got n900. E7's out now but I won't change to it for a couple reasons which don't belong in this post. Good luck!!!

jedi 2011-03-01 09:00

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Goddammit - my Maps software also doesn't dial numbers. How sucky is that?? This thing is a piece of crap.

Scottlfa 2011-04-15 20:47

Re: I'm Done, Good Riddance Nokia
 
Replaced the POS Galaxy S 4G with a HTC G2 [The new one]. Was good to have the N900 right there to pick me up from a purchasing mistake. Very good backup device.


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