Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Well I'm stumped for the moment, the device wasn't automounted.
And it's still getting ext4 errors, which has to be the build itself as far as I can see.

I've tried it from two PC's (fedora and debian)

Getting raw image from here

I was using the power kernel/uboot, I removed that and used the default pr and exactly the same issue.

All I can think is the alpha is broken....has anyone got this working?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I can neither boot this:

http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/t...-armv7hl-n900/

nor the image deadmalc used.

I am using win32imager.

After a while (about 5 minutes) I get a black screen with where I see a white dash in the upper left corner - but that's it.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

We tested this fine (and based a presentation on it) and so did others, do you see any errors with mmcblk0 during bootup?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Shouldn't it be mmcblk1 for the micro-sd card?

To answer the original question, I had it running with a minor work around. uboot would not boot it everytime. I had to type mmc1 init at the prompt and then run mmcboot. Otherwise, the phone would boot into maemo.

I had to wipe the DE alpha to get my card back, unfortunately. Next time around I will try to find a way to have 1st partition available for maemo and still have DE around.

In case encouragement helps, I am really, really, glad to see the DE being developed. Although I am not a developer, I would be happy as long as the phone/e-mail/IM parts work well.

Mfe and skype functionality of the stock N900 would be hard to replace though.

-m

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

me too

i tried this version of the image but without "hl"
but had the same
the screen gets black


soorry for my english xD

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Mee tooo..
I see a blank screen after i installed the alpha version. somethnig wrong here??

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Have you tried touching the screen?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

it's always my first reaction to such an occasion, so yes I did, no effect

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Yes. Touched it so many times its not responding now :P.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I'll reflash and post exactly what I see, when people say it takes a while for the first boot...how long is a while (10mins,30?)
I left it for about 5 mins...is that not long enough!

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Think I know the problem, i reflashed the memory card...
it was taking ages! it was reporting 1.5Mb/sec writing

It is a class 10 memory card and it used to give 15Mb/sec, so I think the memory card is duff, which is really annoying I've not used it other than flashing meego!

It didn't report any I/O errors or anything which is extremely annoying

So I'm just about to order another one and give it another go.... pffft!

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I've installed the 15-Apr image and it works fast at times (class 10).
Firefox address bar won't accept the HW KB enter nor backspace... Probably a known issue.

I have added locally the layout to allow Hebrew VKB, but the HW KB did not cooperate until I ran `setxkbmap -layout us,il` (switch langs is with the dreaded Shift+Ctrl) - but even with that it is missing some chars.

It will occur to other languages as well as it turns out that the HW layouts that were added by ukeyboard in Maemo do not exist/loaded in Meego (/usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/ukeyboard).

How can we integrate those into Meego DE?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Submit a package with them, good excuse to learn RPM packaging :)

(Get an account on build.pub.meego.com and it's easy from there)

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Are you serious ?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

You might need to brush up on your sarcasm lessons.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

but it's way more fun if not all the people DO understand sarcasm ;)

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Since it is N900 specific, shouldn't those changes from ukeyboard be integrated to /usr/share/X11/xkb/symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51 instead of creating a complementing package?

I'm afaraid of a similar fate to "what goes in Extras stays in Extras".
It is affecting more then one language since the symbols file in ukeyboard contain more than several languages...

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Interestingily enough, those symbols are in the xkb upstream. So best to submit there.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Making myself more clear, the nokia_vndr/rx-51 ones are in xkb upstream as far as I know. You can submit them upstream so everyone using xkb can use them.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

i read in the first post :

this is not something for end-users, not yet.
and what does this mean?

and i saw also videos showing meego ui running on n900

like this one :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Wez...layer_embedded

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

It means that the DE release is in VERY EARLY stages and is more like a "proof of concept" with very limited functionality and applications.
the system will boot into a handset ux, depending on whether your sim is pin locked, yopu may or may not be able to use very basic telephony functios and most of the other applications are either buggy or merely are acting as placeholders in the current menus.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Well, I was able to make a phone call with it. But otherwise, there's currently not much to see. The applications crash a lot and the text labels contain mostly placeholders.
It looks like it will have a great future, though.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Ok: I have a question which has been asked, but no real answer was produced..

Meego: This is to be installed on SD, I know.
Can I partition my eMMC and install it there like Nitdroid?
I only have a slow class 2 SD (8GB and a 16GB but - class 2! :( )

I have done the google fu, but found nothing good enough.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

If I will take it upstream it might be updated only when XKB package is updated in Meego, unless I specifically request a backport by the Meego team.

I asked the Meego IM team and they have said that they are considering to neglect xkb in the future.

Considering both cases, I will need to take it upstream and create a maybe create a package for the next Meego release which will somehow need to be dependent on xkb usage ( just in case it won't be included). Thus adding the ukeyboard symbols file and a relevant entry to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. But if I'll create such a package, can it be included in the N900 DE release so that users will have it out of the box?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

http://wiki.meego.com/ARM/N900/Relea..._changes_to_DE is the way you contribute any changes to DE. :)

All contributions welcome.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I'm a noob at git... created a mess :(

Anyway the merged rx-51 is at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36739

I have tested it in Meego and it worked OK. Hebrew HW layout become available after `setxkbmap -layout he` and switch between English and Hebrew was done by the uncomfortable Ctrl+Shift

Update:
Also opened a Meego bug for backport rx-51 https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16973

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Thank you - could you add this to 'ideas' page on DE wiki?

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

For the people, who aren't following the mailling lists here's how the new dialer looks so far in QML, I believe it's created by Tom Swindell (AKA alterego).

It looks really good so far.

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/meego/screenshots/handset/

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/meego/scree...430_160421.png

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/meego/scree...430_221553.png

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/meego/scree...430_221615.png

http://stage.rubyx.co.uk/meego/scree...430_223020.png

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Can the maemo deb packages be converted to rpm using alien? I remember doing it the other way around on my pc a long time ago.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Added.
Upstream now includes the patched rx-51.
Ctrl+Shift is not very usable for changing languages, so we need to figure out why Ctrl+Space doesn't work
(at least for me - I will see if it reproduced for other multi layout languages)

Other then that, I will query around to see how Meego will allow users to choose the hardware keyboard
layout as in the 15-Apr release I could only find the virtual keyboard layout.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Excellent :) Then we can probably get it included in MeeGo.com too. Add the bug report/git commit to the ideas page and we'll get it included.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

excellence!!

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I have been following this forum for info regarding Meego development:
http://trac.tspre.org/meetbot/meego-meeting/2011/

I can only see discussions up until April 21 in that link.
Has it been moved to another location?
Thanks

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Yes, now at irclogs.meego.com/ instead

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I hate quoting myself but in my search to make it work with Ctrl+Space I found the following gem hiding in symbols/nokia_vndr/rx-51
:(
1) The best shortcut that I could find for now is Ctrl+FN which in Maemo popped the symbols dialog.
2) For some reason while in the Hebrew layout (US layout is unaffected), FN+Space does not output '@', but Shift+Space does. Since this was copied as is from ukeyboard, I am confused.

Update:
This issue with the "@" reproduces for all multi layout languages, like Greek, Macedonian, etc...
Still searching why...

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

I have to many ideas QtQuick I want to have/write in for LinuxDesktop and Meego atm. But I have to short time... Posting ideas here maybe someone also intrested to see this in Meego.

* Terminalapp:

A better handset based terminalapp in QtQuick is a must for Meego DE. xterm just sucks on handset. I have started too look at the libvte stuff but its seems to bee to big project port it.

However I did make a very simple ugly hack skeleton in QtDeclarative to start bash in a QProcess and list dir (ls) and rendering it in QtQuick. Now I am trying to parse some of the ANSI Escape strings soo lets see whats happen in the future. Maybe I will release my crapcode later on :-D

* PasswordManager

Store passwords/pincodes in phone encrypted ofcourse. I havent seen any good in Maemo atm?

* pictureupoloder for my own site :-D

* cut/copy/paste app between linux desktop and Meego

.....

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

hum, sorry, but it was in fact a real question... no sarcasm here :)

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

Well in that case let me explain:) It was a joke in reference to people saying MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition is only for developers. As if it was enforced somehow, like for example deleting a random file unless you compile something on device every day.

It does not delete a random file though, so don't worry.

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

wow thanks, I wasn't sure lol but you cleared my mind ;)

Re: MeeGo 1.2 Developer Edition for N900
 

a short question. is it possible to install meego on my n900 without SDcard? (replacing maemo) if yes, how can i do that?