Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

as a trade-off is a ratio, here quality improvement / time delay, Texrat can mean it may not.be the quality affecting the ratio in a positive way.

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

I just posed the question for you guys on the maemo list... lazy bums. :p

Ack! No more! :eek:

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

Maybe they will release the firmware at 6 : 00 EST just in time for iPhone launch in the United States. 22 Minutes left. :-)

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

The point of the more experienced of us here, though, is that Nokia can't *possibly* use a line like that and claim "it's the open source way" without. being. more. open.

Now I'd absolutely love it if the process of QAing a release, the timescales, the features etc. were open. Slippage then would be fine: we'd carry on using the last release candidate with all the known bugs.

Treating a firmware upgrades like hardware releases is foolish. Doubly so for a supposedly open device.

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

It just occurred to me when I read Andrew's post: until the hardware and software are truly "divorced", and we have a higher level of hardware abstraction, OS development is still too tightly tied to device development. Once the abstraction situation improves, maybe then Nokia will relax on OS/software announcements...

But remember: the platform will never and can never be 100% open.

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

Indeed, and at least Nokia are moving in that direction, with the separation of maemo.org content and tablet-devs.nokia.com.

Reuse of Maemo on other devices, such as MID and Hildon in UME will definitely help here.

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

of course one has to understand that the data - here time and performance- are of probabilistic nature, with a Gauss distribution. the gradient of the curve of d(perf)/ d(t) is determining factor for the people in charge to make decision when the optimum ratio will be reached

meaning = no one knows when this damn update will come out for sure :),

its like looking at a cake in the oven. who can tell it will be perfectly baked in 3.5675665 mn?

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

Well, I am not so involved in Nokia products (I had several phones, and I am currently using an 6310i for my work), and I know N76 has been delayed several times (you cannot imagin the whining of one of my colleagues... ;) ) but, you know.. Each one looks at his own garden..

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

Why?

De-integrate Opera and Flash, let them be installable, optional, packages.

De-integrate the proprietary drivers and use open source / freely available ones where possible: again provide them as kernel modules that link in to binary blobs, just like the Centrino projects. This allows for the kernel interface to be maintained and the driver to be improved even in a closed-source environment.

Take out the branding and images or limit it to what Nokia's willing to give away for free.

...is there something else I'm missing here?

Re: June 29th. So... is today the day?
 

yes everyone wants to believe in perfection: short timing, high performance, low cost. its idealistic, and generate frustration.

afterall, the press release said ''is EXPECTED to be released by H1''. this is blurry , on purpose.