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timsamoff 2007-06-29 13:03

Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1007/...1751dfc1_m.jpg

-T.

Seb Per 2007-06-29 13:44

Re: Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
congrats. you won t be disappointed.

timsamoff 2007-06-29 14:14

Re: Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
I was just making a joke -- I've had the N800 for months now. ;)

-T.

Seb Per 2007-06-29 14:24

Re: Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
That changes everything! so I d rather say:

congrats. you won t be disappointed... that you did not purchase an Iphone

:)

YoDude 2007-06-30 12:40

Re: Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seb Per (Post 54795)
congrats. you won t be disappointed.


What he^ said...

The following is from a phone forum with plenty of hits.
>> http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...4&page=1&pp=15

Quote:

First impressions? Disappointing...

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Here's the short list:

1. Bluetooth is ONLY good for connecting a headset. That's it.
2. There is no file browser on the device at all. Data must be organized (if at all) in the appropriate application.
3. The camera is a simple application that has ONE button: the shutter. Pictures come out okay on the device, but nothing too fancy on a monitor, especially if it was an attempt at a macro shot.
4. SIM card is damn near impossible to open, if at all. I didn't look into it extensively.
5. Web browser is slow, even over WLAN. Even the simple OneList web app that was created takes around 20 seconds to load over WLAN. You can not highlight, cut, copy, or paste and text from a website, and you can not save any images you find from a website either. The only nice thing about it is the tabbed browsing, which crashed on me when I went to Engadget and YouTube on two tabs. This is the only application that allows you to use the keyboard in landscape mode.
6. The keyboard sucks. It gets slightly better after the iPhone "learns" you, as the employees said, but even then, it's not a device you can use with one hand comfortably, much less without looking.
7. You can only send one picture at a time in an email.
8. No custom ringtones (yet, as we were being told) and the alert tones can not be changed whatsoever.
9. The default ringtones are incredibly lame.
10. The only form of customization outside of a lame default ringtone is the wallpaper, which you'll only see when you need to unlock the device or when you get a phone call.
11. "Picture pinching" or using two fingers to zoom on any content is certainly fun to play with, but not practical whatsoever. This operation depends solely on using the device with two hands.
12. No document editor or native viewer. You can not store documents on the device to be viewed, they can only be viewed as attachments when they're sent to your in an email.
13. Visual voicemail is laggy and reacts about the same way as pushing the fast forward and rewind buttons on traditional voicemail systems. The only advantage is for those that get that many voicemail messages a day that they need to sort them according to priority.
14. NO games. None.
15. No voice dialing.
16. No speed dialing (which can be made up by the "quick list", but getting to that quick list isn't as fast as holding a single key on a real keypad).
17. No video.
18. No MMS.
19. It's still <4GB for $500 and <8GB for $600
20. It only takes around 2 hours to explore every menu without any options for expandability except to scrounge around for new web apps that will load slowly and nowhere near as smoothly as the native apps.

This device looks like it was aimed at the general consumer who has the money to spend on such a flashy device, but it leaves so many basic features behind that it's almost impossible to consider it a success as a mainstream device. It encourages the advanced user to move away from MMS and into email to send images, but leaves out any advanced features advanced users would be accustomed to, and still retains a huge price tag on top of it.

It's certainly pretty and Americans will buy it because of that simple UI, but anyone who's familiar with other operating systems would be appalled. This phone needs to be unlocked and cracked WIDE open to make much better use of the multi-touch system. That, or it needs an immediate update in iTunes to rework every feature.

^ This thread had 3,900 views and 75 responses and as far as I have seen no one has successfully rebutted any of the statements... :eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonnyBruha
....
If you want to attack anything I said, argue that the ringtones aren't lame (if you can) or anything else I posted my opinion on. If not that, then prove me wrong? Don't just bash me and accuse me of not having a girlfriend since I wrote up a short list of my experience on opening day.

^ nice response to an attack post BTW. :cool:

On a side note: It has been reported that by 8pm lines were gone at most stores and you could purchase one in minutes.

Also: The mayor of Philadelphia put some of the cities business on hold as he waited all day in front of an Apple store in a lawn chair in order to get an iPhone on the first day....

timsamoff 2007-06-30 15:00

Re: Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
Wow... That's some update! :)

Thanks!

-T.

sondjata 2007-06-30 15:08

Re: Today is the Day That I Happily Refuse To Purchase an iPhone...
 
When I heard no MMS, I was very confused. Why not? Also, with a "phone" capable of playing video I don't understand why it cannot capture video. Typical Apple crippleware and this from an Apple fan. No file browser? Serious?

timsamoff 2007-06-30 15:18

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Yeah. I'm a long-time Apple fan (and user -- since 1982!)... It seems to me that Apple is getting a bit impatient in their old age. The iPhone could have used another six months of development, as well as some testing time in a few 3rd party hands.

TiM

Mark S 2007-06-30 16:30

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iPhone 2 will be the device to get.

Milhouse 2007-06-30 16:54

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No bluetooth tethering possible with the iPhone so no use to me even if I could use it in the UK!

Rumour is that Apple will announce the European iPhone on Monday which will have 3G support... if it still has no BT DUN (or even PAN - hello, Nokia!) support then it will still be no good to me!

phi 2007-06-30 18:44

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http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1160/...949541787d.jpg

Nik1 2007-06-30 19:17

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iPhone taken apart, if anyones interested:

http://thinksecret.com/archives/iphonetakeapart

thecompkid 2007-06-30 19:50

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Well, you know, I've got to say this. I really can't rebut any of the points you make about the iPhone. It's true, it's a device with some flaws. I have faith that Apple will do it's best to iron out these flaws with software updates, but, i'll give you credit on the fact that most of the points made in the article quoted in this thread probably will not be resolved. My only question is, what's your point?

Don't take this the wrong way. I assure you that a week ago, I would have been saying the same exact thing as you. But then I realized what I really wanted in a phone. I have a Cingular 8125, but do I use it to browse the web? No, I don't. Why? Well, ask anyone with the same phone. The web experience is unbearable. I'm spending how much money for what? I've also got a 770. The web browsing experience is amazing. I don't honestly think that Nokia could make that part of it any better. Do I carry that around with me? Umm...no. I am someone that is very tolerant of huge bulges in my pockets, but I have my limits :) . And my iPod...collecting dust. I just can't deal with carrying three separate devices. So what do I do? Carry just the 8125 and I never, ever, even touch it except to put it in my pocket in the morning and out of my pocket at night. Yeah, the iPhone barely surpasses the 8125 on paper, but what is paper anyway? Why do we have to benchmark devices based on how complex they are? Why can't a good device just let you do what you want to do instead of giving you an error 95% of the time and letting you figure it out. I want an iPhone for the same reason that I wanted a mac, I love solving problems when the problems aren't getting in the way of more important things. Muddling through 10 levels of cryptic menus, typing in Unix commands that seem never to end, smashing my head on my desk with every appearance of that damned E word as it scrolls by my stylus/mouse pointer/cursor, that's my hobby, not my life.

What i'm trying to say is not that I want you to change your mind. I think that everyone should have their own opinion about what it is that they need, since, obviously, every person's situation is different. I'm just offering the flip side of the coin. The concept that forms the foundation of basically all of Apple's products. The idea that perhaps it's not the specs, but the way you use a device, that truly makes the difference.


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