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optimaxxx 2011-03-18 08:48

About "Rotate-ability"
 
Basically, i hate how the screen is facing me at, say 40 degrees, and then i accidentally tilt it sideways and if the the phone isn't dead-level, it rotates the screen sideways.

A second to reload everything on screen, shake the phone wildly waiting for gyroscope to realise i don't want it that way, wait again for screen to reload... *sigh*

another common cause is handing phone to mate to check something, and the phone just decides "HELL YEAH, GONNA ROTATE"... *sigh*

This is ridiculously frustrating, and don't start with "it's not hard to avoid" and "it's never happened to me" because with especially with the CSSU, portrait is almost everywhere, and there really should be an easily accessible way to set the "rotate-ability".

I'm aware of the new menu thing that allows it to be locked to landscape, but this is an ugly hack, and whenever a phone call is received, it destroys the refuse button.

also, (this is exclusively issue for CSSU/third party apps) if there is a chance for "rotate-ability" to be set, I would also like to take this chance to point out that the kernel should handle screen rotation how the web browser does;
if you rotate portrait upright (proper orientation for a phone call), it displays portrait mode.
if you rotate landscape upright ("NOKIA" in the bezel is right way up), it displays landscape mode.
if you rotate portrait upside-down (opposite for a phone call), it ignores the change.
if you rotate landscape upside-down ("NOKIA" in the bezel is wrong way up), it ignores the change.

This ingenious thought applied to MicroB is amazing in its usefulness, if you want the phone physically portrait-mode, but displaying landscape, you rotate wrong way for a phone call, and hey presto!
sorted.
(think when you're lying down in bed on your side, yet you still can browse web properly)

And honestly, this amazing thought in MicroB is totally absent from so many other devices (including iPhone), and it's just such a brilliant idea. All those people that dropped phones on their face whilst using them in bed, not us.

Not the N900.

It cares

ps, the N900's really quite heavy so ty for caring Nokia designers/engineers!

slender 2011-03-18 09:05

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
FYI. Opening keyboard tends to lock screen landscape or force rotate to landscape.

optimaxxx 2011-03-18 09:27

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
sorry, i don't know how to react, although i'm pretty sure i'm offended.

sliding open keyboard isn't always viable (and is functionally identical to the CSSU option to lock in landscape), and does nothing about the system's eagerness for portrait > landscape

Reffyyyy 2011-03-18 09:47

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
"The N900 doesn't have a gyroscope."

Prepare for a discussion related to that.

Anyway, I have seen this behaviour too. It is quite infuriating when I'm attempting to do something incredibly simple but is obstructed by something so trivial.

However, it doesn't happen to me anymore due to my phone always thinking the keyboard is open.

jedi 2011-03-18 09:55

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
I've got my CSSU orientation locked to landscape. Phone locked to portrait.

No problems.

Ranting about it here won't get you very far - Nokia ain't listening.

optimaxxx 2011-03-30 01:52

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
"Lock to Landscape" is not a solution!

akin to curing cancer by killing all cancer patients,
locking to landscape seeks to fix the issue by completely destroying it, and does nothing to fix the actual problem!

and that's why i made this thread, to discuss the real issue for why people even need to lock it to landscape.

Bratag 2011-03-30 02:19

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
Or - and this is just a suggestion you could leave the force rotation disabled since the CSSU guys have repeatedly said its not a feature ready for prime time yet. Hence ITS DISABLED BY DEFAULT!

They have also stated they are working on a way to whitelist apps. Therefore ensuring that only those apps you want to be rotated will actually rotate. But hey don't let reading the CSSU thread and learning about this prevent you from having a good old rant.

Mike Fila 2011-03-30 02:37

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 978154)
Or - and this is just a suggestion you could leave the force rotation disabled

leave the forced rotation disabled

/thread

Mentalist Traceur 2011-03-30 03:01

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
Normally I'm nice enough not to spew insults at least, but the last two posts are *****ic: Fraking doesn't make a damn difference if he has force rotation on or not. It doesn't matter if two rotation-supporting apps are able to rotate, or if all of them are able to rotate. The ones that are rotating are affected by what he's talking about, regardless of whether or not their rotation is forced. (And even without forced rotate, CSSU enables 'actual' rotation support in the settings menu, modest, and will do so with other programs as it replaces the closed bits with FOSS ones.)

Bratag 2011-03-30 05:12

Re: About "Rotate-ability"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentalist Traceur (Post 978162)
Normally I'm nice enough not to spew insults at least, but the last two posts are *****ic: Fraking doesn't make a damn difference if he has force rotation on or not. It doesn't matter if two rotation-supporting apps are able to rotate, or if all of them are able to rotate. The ones that are rotating are affected by what he's talking about, regardless of whether or not their rotation is forced. (And even without forced rotate, CSSU enables 'actual' rotation support in the settings menu, modest, and will do so with other programs as it replaces the closed bits with FOSS ones.)

MT While I appreciate your position - and can honestly say I know exactly what the OP is talking about and find it annoying as well.

Quote:

This is ridiculously frustrating, and don't start with "it's not hard to avoid" and "it's never happened to me" because with especially with the CSSU, portrait is almost everywhere, and there really should be an easily accessible way to set the "rotate-ability".
Was the section of the OP that prompted my response. If he finds it especially annoying with the CSSU I stand by my original post and say leave it disabled. After playing with rotation for some time I turned it off - partially because of the problem he mentions. It worked to alleviate the issue for me - I am sure it can for him.


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