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zehjotkah 2011-09-09 09:12

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helihyv (Post 1084785)
When the winner has to be registered as OVI publisher? Does it have to be before voting, or can he/she register after knowing what the result is?

I don't know how long it takes to register as Ovi publisher. If it takes just some minutes, I think it's possible to register after the winners were announced and then submit the app as fast as possible.
I'd go the save way, though.

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Originally Posted by helihyv (Post 1084785)
But what if someone who wins would refuse to port to N9? Would he/she get no prize at all?

Nokia is very clear. No app in the Ovi store: no N9.
If a first prize winner would refuse to register and submit at the Ovi store we'd offer the N9 to the second prize winner and offering the N900 to the first prize winner.

edit: Uh! I just realized something. Nowhere Nokia said that the app must be for Harmattan. So we could try to submit your maemo 5 app to the Ovi store... :D

Helmuth 2011-09-09 09:16

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by helihyv (Post 1084785)
But what if someone who wins would refuse to port to N9? Would he/she get no prize at all?

I have the same concerns. But if there is no other option we have to try to live with this solution.

Or we use the bounty and buy some cheap and geeky trophies for our winners. ;)

I have a suggestion: Everybody should try to register himself at ovi if it is possible (I'm still unsure if the registration is free or not) and we try to make to voting as soon as we are able to.

As soon as we know the ranking the 1st placed have to try to get their N9. Place 2, 3, 4, 5 .... is on hold until the 1st placed got their N9.
If the winner gets a N9 everything is fine and we are able to proceed. If not we have to search for a alterative plan B for this categorie.
Perhaps Place 1 could get the N900 and a piece of the bounty that was reserved for place 3 and the 2nd placed could get the chance for the N9?
Perhaps the N900 is anyway a lot more worth for some developers as the N9 because of the Keyboard and the lack of available new Devices.

My biggest concerns goes to the Desktop and Widgets categorie. Those are all purely N900 only applications - perhaps except the Keyboard share application. But as far as I'm able to see there are only plans for a N9 version. Nothing released yet.

Helmuth 2011-09-09 09:19

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1084804)
edit: Uh! I just realized something. Nowhere Nokia said that the app must be for Harmattan. So we could try to submit your maemo 5 app to the Ovi store... :D

Not possible. I read some very frustrating and angry posts from a developer who had paid for a account to publish N900 software and was later unable to publish it. The support told him the N900 was no longer fully supported and he should publish for Symbian instead. No money back and he was very angry. I guess it was smukko. But I'm currently not sore.

P.S.: Good N900 <-> N9 switching Idea. I got the same but I guess I'm posting to slow. ;)

marxian 2011-09-09 09:27

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
To clarify the Ovi Store registration process:

I did it a few weeks ago, and it cost only 1 Euro. It takes about 5 minutes. All you need to do is enter some personal/contact details, then make the 1 Euro payment using a credit/debit card. The cost is only greater if you wish to publish content (i.e. ringtones etc) rather than applications.

momcilo 2011-09-09 09:29

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Although I am not competing, I think it is very unfair from Nokia to state the requirement in the last stage of the competition, especially since many of the developers do not have N950.

This places people with no previous Nokia affiliation in a rather bad position compared to people enjoying the N950 developer program.

That is plainly stupid, since that would reduce the number of potential developers for N9. I think you should pass that to Nokia side.

I am curious to learn how this mad drive will end.

Helmuth 2011-09-09 09:35

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
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Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1084818)
Although I am not competing, I think ... ... ...

This is a Community Coding Competition, driven and organized by the Community and their members - not by Nokia.
We asked Nokia AFTER a possible prize for the 1st place disappeared and not before the competition began.

Because of this I would rather say thankyou to Nokia instead of blame them even if I would like more relaxed conditions.

Edit: By the way, you are still able to donate for our Bounty.

momcilo 2011-09-09 09:45

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 1084822)
This is a Community Coding Competition, driven and organized by the Community and their members - not by Nokia.
We asked Nokia AFTER a possible prize for the 1st place disappeared and not before the competition began.

Because of this I would rather say thankyou to Nokia instead of blame them even if I would like more relaxed conditions.

That requirement puts you in awkward position, since you are promoting meego.

<ToxicThought>
The only thing that is missing is to rename the competition to
Nokia N9 Coding Competition. :D
</ToxicThought>

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helmuth (Post 1084822)
Edit: By the way, you are still able to donate for our Bounty.

That was really impolite.

BTW: Please don't use T word.

zehjotkah 2011-09-09 10:25

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1084818)
I think it is very unfair from Nokia to state the requirement in the last stage of the competition, especially since many of the developers do not have N950.

Originally they wanted to sponsor flights and accomodation to the next MeeGo Conference.
I've good reasons to believe that there won't be another MeeGo Conference that soon.

I had two options: keep the prizes and possibly disappoint the first prize winners by telling them next year that they have won something that doesn't exist, or try to get other prizes.

I went for the second option.

Personally I don't think that these requirements make sense, but I can't do anything against it. It's hard enough to talk about MeeGo in a WindowsPhone target country.

So you have two options: register at Ovi store and try to compile your app for MeeGo Harmattan if you want to be a possible winner of a Nokia N9.
Or do not register and be a possible winner of any of the other prizes.

momcilo 2011-09-09 10:41

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1084844)
Originally they wanted to sponsor flights and accomodation to the next MeeGo Conference.
I've good reasons to believe that there won't be another MeeGo Conference that soon.

I had two options: keep the prizes and possibly disappoint the first prize winners by telling them next year that they have won something that doesn't exist, or try to get other prizes.

I went for the second option.

Personally I don't think that these requirements make sense, but I can't do anything against it. It's hard enough to talk about MeeGo in a WindowsPhone target country.

So you have two options: register at Ovi store and try to compile your app for MeeGo Harmattan if you want to be a possible winner of a Nokia N9.
Or do not register and be a possible winner of any of the other prizes.

Ok, it is clear now. So basically you are forced to accept conditions stated by Nokia since the donated money is not enough to finance prices.

I apologize for being hard on you.

zehjotkah 2011-09-09 10:52

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1084849)
Ok, it is clear now. So basically you are forced to accept conditions stated by Nokia since the donated money is not enough to finance prices.

These are different prizes.
First prize: Lets say the N9 is worth about 500€ (or more, exact prices not announced yet)
Second prize: The N900 is worth about 200€ (I think)
Third prize: About 1.000€ from donations distributed among 9 categories. Makes 111€ per category.
Or we could split the money to get a fourth prize:
3rd: 80€
4th: 30€

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Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1084849)
I apologize for being hard on you.

Don't worry. :)


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