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Joseph9560 2011-11-11 12:13

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How come my app (Nepali Calendar aka nepcal) is not listed under Beginners category in voting page? Did I missed something?

zehjotkah 2011-11-11 12:23

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Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 1121812)
How come my app (Nepali Calendar aka nepcal) is not listed under Beginners category in voting page? Did I missed something?

You had to check the beginners checkbox while creating your account (or afterwards by editing it).
Take a look at the attached screenshot.

Sorry.

Joseph9560 2011-11-11 12:36

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1121814)
You had to check the beginners checkbox while creating your account (or afterwards by editing it).
Take a look at the attached screenshot.

Sorry.

Arrghhhhh! So sad :-) . Editing it won't work now! Anyways I wasn't going to win anything after all.

Btw requesting for voting is legal isn't it? I don't see anything against it in rules stated at wiki.

zehjotkah 2011-11-11 12:58

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Originally Posted by Joseph9560 (Post 1121821)
Btw requesting for voting is legal isn't it? I don't see anything against it in rules stated at wiki.

Yes, you can promote your app everywhere you like.
That's the good thing of the choosen voting system: no cheating is possible. ;)

reinob 2011-11-11 14:34

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Originally Posted by erendorn (Post 1121797)
Damn, I didn't know that, so I've a karma of only 3 .. well :o

You could try linking your TALK account with the COMMUNITY account. After that, supposedly, you gain karma by posting/being thanked.

I did that a few days ago, but no change (yet?). Anyway...

xkkkx 2011-11-12 00:42

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1120471)
fyi


donation update:

10€ by an anonymous donator. Thanks!

that was me ;)

leon.anavi 2011-11-12 10:45

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1121137)
edit:
leon.anavi does have 11 karma points (http://maemo.org/profile/view/leonanavi/), that means that everyone with over 10 karma points should have got an email. :)

Haha, that's cool :) I didn't know that my karma is 11 until now. So we can be sure that the check for karma is working and that my app location2sms will get at least one vote :)

helex 2011-11-12 13:29

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Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1122284)
So we can be sure that the check for karma is working and that my app location2sms will get at least one vote :)

Luckily we are not placing single votes, no, we are making all our own ranking thanks to zehjotkah and his effort to get the voting finally done thru the council system. So, if your location2sms is not at every ranking at the last position you will get more than just your single vote. At least you're at my list not at the last position. :)

leon.anavi 2011-11-12 17:27

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Originally Posted by helex (Post 1122348)
Luckily we are not placing single votes, no, we are making all our own ranking thanks to zehjotkah and his effort to get the voting finally done thru the council system. So, if your location2sms is not at every ranking at the last position you will get more than just your single vote. At least you're at my list not at the last position. :)

Thank for pointing that out! :) I voted this afternoon - the voting is excellently organized.

I decided to put on higher positions in my lists apps that are published in Nokia Ovi Store for Nokia N9, because I believe that in general the main purposes of each app are to be useful and to be used :) After all Nokia Ovi Store is the channel to deliver MeeGo Harmattan apps to the mass market.

yaln 2011-11-13 09:56

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Thanks to zehjotkah for persisting with the voting system - it seems a fair and positive way to vote. :)

I've done most of my voting and have used originality as one of my criteria. True the Maemo/Meego ecosystem needs 'Metoo' apps, but it's nice to have something different in there as well.

I didn't penalise an app if it wasn't published on Nokia's website store. For me one of the benefits of Maemo/Meego is you can distribute it yourself.

I'm now keeping my fingers crossed for a Meltemi Coding Competition 2012 :D

helex 2011-11-13 11:08

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Originally Posted by yaln (Post 1122795)
I'm now keeping my fingers crossed for a Meltemi Coding Competition 2012 :D

Meltemi, MeeGo, maemo, Tizen... I would say lets call it Linux Mobile Future Coding Competition. :D

But I guess first needs Zehjotkah some maemo community competition vacation... ;)

phap 2011-11-13 11:56

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Sorry to ask this but where is the page where we can vote? I can't find it anywhere...

lma 2011-11-13 12:05

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Originally Posted by helex (Post 1122816)
Meltemi, MeeGo, maemo, Tizen... I would say lets call it Linux Mobile Future Coding Competition. :D

IMHO you'd have to keep it within one development platform or at best a few very closely related ones. Otherwise it just becomes a competition on the relative platforms' popularity.

zehjotkah 2011-11-13 15:33

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Originally Posted by phap (Post 1122832)
Sorry to ask this but where is the page where we can vote? I can't find it anywhere...

You should have got an email if you've maemo karma above 10.
unfortunately we had to filter the users based on karma because the maemo.org admins wanted to keep as far as possible away from being like spam.

leon.anavi 2011-11-13 15:33

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Originally Posted by yaln (Post 1122795)
I didn't penalise an app if it wasn't published on Nokia's website store. For me one of the benefits of Maemo/Meego is you can distribute it yourself.

Oh, yes I totally agree that this is an important benefit of Maemo/MeeGo. My point was that apps published in Nokia Ovi store are additionally tested by Nokia QA and after all at the moment the app stores are the fastest way to the mass market.

helex 2011-11-13 17:18

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Originally Posted by leon.anavi (Post 1122918)
Oh, yes I totally agree that this is an important benefit of Maemo/MeeGo. My point was that apps published in Nokia Ovi store are additionally tested by Nokia QA and after all at the moment the app stores are the fastest way to the mass market.

Mmmh... I would consider applications at Maemo Extras (not Extra-Devel) are at minimum as well tested as at the Ovi store. Okay, in the most cases I'm sure only a single Nokia employee would test the application whereas at Maemo Extras there are... okay, I would stop here. [sarcasm] The Ovi store is simply great! [/sarcasm] :D

phap 2011-11-14 08:39

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Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1122916)
You should have got an email if you've maemo karma above 10.
unfortunately we had to filter the users based on karma because the maemo.org admins wanted to keep as far as possible away from being like spam.

Arr. I have only 6. If I manage to get 10 now will I be able to vote?

Helmuth 2011-11-14 10:18

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Sadly not. Sorry. :(

We wanted to avoid this situation. But as you're able to read in this thread we had many problems setting up this voting and this was as far as I'm able to judge the only working solution to get a proper voting for our competition. (we are already many months behind our schedule)

I hope you can understand this... perhaps you could advertise your fafourite application a little bit instead of voting for it? :)

phap 2011-11-14 11:46

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I understand. Too bad! If I knew it before and linked talk.maemo.org account with my maemo profile my karma surely would have been above 10.
C'est la vie.

neal 2011-11-16 14:06

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Voting is hard! I'm using Firefox and the voting page makes it very hard to rank the submissions. Look at the attached screenshots: the entries overlap! This problem disappears if I make my browser window >3000 pixels wide (which is a bit unusable). Can someone fix this, please.

CepiPerez 2011-11-16 14:41

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How can I vote?
I dind't receive any email

reinob 2011-11-16 14:58

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Originally Posted by neal (Post 1124390)
Voting is hard! I'm using Firefox and the voting page makes it very hard to rank the submissions. Look at the attached screenshots: the entries overlap! This problem disappears if I make my browser window >3000 pixels wide (which is a bit unusable). Can someone fix this, please.

I guess the voting page won't get a design award ([off-topic] just about on par with the meego logo :) [/off-topic], but hey, you only have to use it 9 times :)

Please note that though ugly, the voting itself works, i.e. you can still click on the entries and they will be accurately moved to the right place.

My solution for better readability was to use ctrl-[-] to reduce the font size until it all looked good (small, but good :).

mmlado 2011-11-16 15:50

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Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1124413)
How can I vote?
I dind't receive any email

You should have received one if you have 10+ Karma on maemo.org.
Did you connect your tmo account to maemo account?

CepiPerez 2011-11-16 18:36

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Originally Posted by mmlado (Post 1124461)
You should have received one if you have 10+ Karma on maemo.org.
Did you connect your tmo account to maemo account?

284 karma
I've connected the accounts now, I didn't know that.
Can you send the e-mail again?

marxian 2011-11-16 18:56

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Originally Posted by CepiPerez (Post 1124553)
284 karma
I've connected the accounts now, I didn't know that.
Can you send the e-mail again?

I think it's too late now. :(

helex 2011-11-16 19:59

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Originally Posted by neal (Post 1124390)
Voting is hard! I'm using Firefox and the voting page makes it very hard to rank the submissions.

The fastest fix for me was to use a different browser and considering the long process to get the voting working it won't get fixed before the voting period is over. :(

So, please try the voting with something different like Internet Explorer, Chrome or perhaps Opera. I hope this works for you. :)

leon.anavi 2011-11-17 23:00

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Originally Posted by reinob (Post 1124430)
My solution for better readability was to use ctrl-[-] to reduce the font size until it all looked good (small, but good :).

This seems like an excellent workaround :) I also experienced the same minor issues with the page for voting and I would recommend your idea to use ctrl-[-] to all people who have not voted yet.

mrsellout 2011-11-23 13:09

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Just a bump to remind everyone that voting closes tomorrow (24th November) at 23:59 UTC. Perhaps the title of the thread could be changed to reflect this?

Get your votes in!

reinob 2011-11-23 14:29

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@mrsellout,

If there's anything I hate in TMO it's when a thread changes title. It should be forbidden. If something new comes the sane thing to do would be to open a NEW thread.

Nothing personal, but your message just forced me to say this :)

dwaradzyn 2011-11-23 15:22

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I am OK with thread changes that include small but meaningful updates - such as the latest version of an app. A change from "MeeGo Coding Competition 2011" to "MeeGo Coding Competition 2011 - voting open till tomorrow" would not hurt.

BTW. How soon after the voting closes will the results be available?

adhrie 2011-11-23 15:29

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made the votes ...

may the best coders/developers win & continue to support maemo/meego

Helmuth 2011-11-23 15:44

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Originally Posted by adhrie (Post 1127893)
may the best coders/developers win & continue to support maemo/meego

/signed

I tried to check and google the developers behind the particular projects and if they supported my devices before this competition and how high the possibility is the development will continue in the future. I ranked the votes later about my feeling after this little research.

Some work, yes... but just to avoid to get again frustrated after voting for the wrong projects. ;)

zehjotkah 2011-11-24 10:09

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Originally Posted by dwaradzyn (Post 1127890)
BTW. How soon after the voting closes will the results be available?

I've no idea, but I hope very soon....

mrsellout 2011-11-24 19:55

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Just another bump as voting closes in four hours.

helex 2011-11-24 21:14

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I'm sure we don't need this bumps. The voting will get closed in 2 hours, there was plenty of time the last days to vote and this thread is sticky anyway. But thanks. :)

But I wonder if we get something like a voter turnout? How many members were eligible to vote and how many have voted?

Will we get this statistics in the results and are the results automatically posted somewhere? :confused:

mrsellout 2011-11-24 21:48

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I remember the Council nomination thread when people complained that they didn't realise that the period was closing and so never stepped forward. I kept putting voting off, saying, 'I'll do it later' (although I've voted now), and I think there'll be others doing the same. I just think it would be a shame for people no t to be able to thank the developers in a meaningful manner, after all the hard work they've put in.

Edit: The bumps help because they help push the thread to the top of the 'Active Topics' panel on the right and the 'Latest posts' search.

helex 2011-11-24 22:20

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Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1128630)
I remember the Council nomination thread when people complained that they didn't realise that the period was closing and so never stepped forward. I kept putting voting off, saying, 'I'll do it later' (although I've voted now), and I think there'll be others doing the same. I just think it would be a shame for people no t to be able to thank the developers in a meaningful manner, after all the hard work they've put in.

Mmmh... yes, perhaps. But I hope the people interested in this competition have already voted. At my clock there are only 45 minutes left. Not enought to test all applications before voting.

By the way... will it end at UTC? :)

You're perhaps right. I'm not the measure of all things and other members are acting rather at the last minute than considering in a quiet minute. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrsellout (Post 1128630)
Edit: The bumps help because they help push the thread to the top of the 'Active Topics' panel on the right and the 'Latest posts' search.

Okay, that's a clear point for you. ;)

But honestly, you got the Idea about this fact after posting and thinging about my small critique. :p

Edit: Aaah... and just realized... I helped you with your intention with bumping this thread myself two times and pushed the thread to the top of the "Active Topics" panel. Don't forget to say thank you. :D

mmlado 2011-11-25 05:34

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I'm guessing the voting is over.
Hope we'll have the results soon.

mmlado 2011-11-25 10:30

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Just counted number of users who voted in the biggest category, games. Around 70. :( From 5K sent emails.
http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=18

Maybe problem was with limiting karma to 10.
I know it was needed, but still it's a little disappointing.

helex 2011-11-25 11:22

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Originally Posted by mmlado (Post 1128804)
Just counted number of users who voted in the biggest category, games. Around 70. :( From 5K sent emails.
http://maemo.org/vote/votes.php?election_id=18

Maybe problem was with limiting karma to 10.
I know it was needed, but still it's a little disappointing.

Thanks for the link. Haven't known about it. Very interesting to read. :)

Here are all links:
This low voter turnout is indeed very sad. Only 1,4% - VERY low. And in the games categorie with 21 submissins we have now only 49 independent voters if the individual developers voted for their own projects.

Look at the Coding Competition 2010 - it was not very high compared to the amount of the registered members, too. Despite it prominent, sticky visibility in the forum have only a minor number of users voted.

I don't think the karma limit of 10 is a reason for this. Members with karma were in the past surely more interested in maemo than Members with less than 10 karma points (expect those who haven't known about linking the two accounts before - yes, it is sad)

But if those karma 10 members are not interested in spending a hour to vote - how many of the other members would have spent a hour to vote?

Hmm... and a other point: Several Members have voted for no submission - "This member chose to vote for none of the possible choices." - perhaps the voting prozess was to complicated?! :confused:


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