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This solution would be relevant only if zehjotkah decides to go with the results from RTSTV calculations.
For FTSTV calculations there is no tie and Rockmarble is third place, while BashORGquotations is forth.

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I would always prefer a system with strict rules and without any kind of randomness.
My project is in both cases not affected. So perhaps I'm allowed to suggest to use the FTSTV system instead of RTSTV.

What speaks against the FTSTV system?

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Yesterday quite a lot has happened. So I think I'll try to summarize what was going on and what the current status is:

First Results via RTSTV
The first results neal (#764 and #765) and I (#848) published used RTSTV.

Random Changes in RTSTV Results
RTSTV stands for Random Transfer Single Transferable Vote. As the name implies and as we also figured out (great thanks to mmlado) this method relies to some degree on randomness. Due to this we encountered a situation in which the places 3 and 5 in the Fun & Strange category are randomly changing (see the following posts by mmlado and me: #869, #870, and #872).

No Random Changes in FTSTV Results
FTSTV (Fractional Transfer Single Transferable Vote) did not show this random behavior (see the following posts by mmlado and me: #871 and #874).

Results via FTSTV
Results generated with FTSTV had been published by mmlado (#859), neal (#861), and me (#873). Additionally I published the results generated via FTSTV with the last places added manually (#877).

Council Elections used both FTSTV and RTSTV
There was also the discussion whether to choose FTSTV or RTSTV based on what has been used in the council elections. As one can see actually both had been used (see my post: #860) in the past for council elections. Though as far as I can see RTSTV had only been used once (in Q1 2009) and the last three council elections used FTSTV (Q3 2009, Q1 2010, and Q3 2010).

Summary
So, to sum all this up we have the choice between FTSTV and RTSTV. In our case RTSTV is problematic as it randomly changes winning places in at least one category. So probably the logic consequence is to use FTSTV as this avoids the random changes?


Please Verify
I hope I didn't miss important information. It would be nice if you could re-check the whole discussion from yesterday and verify that everything which is important got mentioned.

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Hi All,

It was an exiting competition! Congratulations to the winners :)

I would like to make short announcement so that the topic could take a breath of fresh air from the voting process ;)

Yesterday the new version 2.0.0 of my app location2sms was released in Nokia Ovi Store for MeeGo Harmattan devices. It includes bug fixes and multi-language support so you can view the app in English, Bulgarian and Turkish.

As I said earlier location2sms is now an open-source project and the source code is hosted at gitorious.

Cheers,
Leon

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FTSTV FTW! ;)
Randomness is not fair me thinks...

neal: the decision that we'll have 5 prizes was made when we got the N900s for every category.
First we had 3 or 4 prizes because we only had the N9s (or back then the travels) as first prizes but this even not for sure.

edit: Sorry for the lack of participation. At work I got a huge project (planning and executing a big online marketing campaign), so I was working without pauses and without surfing on tmo...

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I'm confused. In the following post, you mention 3 or 4 prizes and the N900s (from Sept 9).

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okay, then my memory is not as good as it should... sorry.
then I have to stick to my word from before...
3rd: 70%
4th: 30%
is that okay?

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Alright, then we have the results published by mmlado (#859), neal (#861), and me (#873 and #877 respectively).

I think you want us to verify these?

I just compared my results to those from neal and both are identical (In my resulst as posted in #877 I just added the last places as already discussed in here.).

Comparing my results to those from mmlado there are some differences but these differences are not on winning places. The differences are namely:
- Graphics & Multimedia Category places 7 and 8 are switched.
- Games Category several differences from the 7th place on (Places 1-6 are identical.).

It would be nice if others could check and verify these results as well.

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Don't worry. I think we all highly appreciate your work in this competition. :)
Am also working more like 7 days a week these days...

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I've submitted the results:

Thanks for all your help and community-spirit! :)

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1st prize winners:
please make sure your app is available in the Nokia Store (formerly known as Ovi Store) and send me the link to it. This makes the conversation with Nokia a lot more faster.
Preferred format:
Email to info@meetmeego.org
subject:
""Name of your app" MeeGo Coding Competition""
content:
"your name"
"Name of your app"
"link to Nokia Store"
"your physical address where the Nokia N9 should arrive"

If it's not (yet) available in the Nokia Store, please give me a good reason why not and if it will be published there later.

2nd prize winners:
Please wait for b0unc3 to tell you what to do. I guess you'll have to send him your address... I've sent him a PM...

3rd and 4th prize winners:
Please provide me with your PayPal-address (or if you live in Germany your Kontodaten to save PayPal-fees) in an email to info@meetmeego.org
subject:
""Name of your app" MeeGo Coding Competition" "your ranking""
content:
"your name"
"Name of your app"
"PayPal address or Kontodaten"

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Congratulations to all winners

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Perhaps you should hold back the prizes for the 3rd and 4th and wait if everything works out with the devices.

Just a feeling... :)

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yepp, that's the plan. ;)
priority are the first prize winners. as soon as I have all the information needed from everyone I'll send it to Nokia, wait for feedback.
b0unc3 will hopefully manage the 2nd prize at the same time.
after that I'll send all the money for the 3rd prizes and after that all the money for the 4th.
of course if someone won more than one money-prize I'll send it in one transaction to save PayPal fees and work.

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@zehjotkah:
Filebox for harmattan is already in Nokia Store.
Should I upload Filebox for maemo too? It's in maemo extras.
FlowPlayer is only available here, in a thread.

PS: Thanks everyone who had vote my apps!

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Great! Nokia is only interested in Harmattan Apps...
And only the apps which are ranked 1st must be available in the Nokia Store (or have a good explanation why not).
So you're ready to go. :)

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I'm waiting instructions....I'll post news asap.

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So, the results are official, right? :)

I'm speechless... I bought a N900 without Linux experience (excepts a Dreambox in the living room near my TV) and started nearly from zero. I had to learn how to work with the terminal, I learned thanks to this great community python for my DreamRemote and started after the last Community Coding Competition with C++ and Qt. During the competition I began to learn qml and had a lot very frustrating situations. But thanks to this great community, especially Zehjotkah, Kojacker, marxian and all the others, I was finally able to participate in the end with 5 of my small hobby projects at this Competition.
Yes, I hoped to win in the best case a shiny new N9, but I never expected to get all 5 of my applications somewhere at one of the first 4 places.
My DreamRemote got last year also the 4th place and compared to all the other projects and the superior qualifications here at talk.maemo.org I take this as a big compliment and a seal of quality for my small hobby.

Thanks again Zehjotkah. Without all your work and motivations I wouldn't gone this far. Without your help I wouldn't have published anything for a Tablet device and I would have never meet Monika and Paul in Munich. It was a great experience and I hope I'm able to gave you soon a big hug as I have already promised. :D

Congratulations to all participants! :)

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Im really rather blown away at winning and coming 4th in different categories!

Thanks to everyone involved!

I wonder what next years competition will bring?

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congratulations to the winners and organizers! :)

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Congratulations to all involved ! :D

BTW a second N900 will sure come handy (for Nemo testing, etc.). :)

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Congrat to the winners, but to everyone as well!

I won nothing but it was a great learning experience from the community members. I hope there is another competition next year!

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Hi guys,

2nd prizes winners, in order to receive the N900 have to send me these information:

1. Full name of winner
2. Their full address with everything included (street name, house number,
post office/number, state, country etc.)
3. Phone number for the delivery service to call
4. e-mail

Thanks.

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What's your email address?

I'll be away for the holidays. Do you know what the estimated shipping date is once you have this information?

Thanks.

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You can send me a PM.
I don't know, keep in mind that the devices are shipped from Finland.

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Please send me also the app name and the category (so I don't have to search it everytime).
Thank you.

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Nemein has uploaded our official results.
http://maemo.org/vote/

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Thanks Zehjotkah and everyone else for their long work on this competition. Congratulations to the prize winners! Nice to see some people already asking about next years competition. A few questions from me as a council member.

Are you willing to volunteer again next year? Including helping with the voting process? pause before answering :p

MeeGo is shutting down next year. What should be the focus of the 2012 coding competition? Should we make it a CSSU/Nemo/Cordia competition? Or broaden it to be a Qt coding competition for multiple platforms?

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What about a Qt coding competition for mobile Linux devices? (Tablets and Mobiles running a full featured Linux like the N900, N9 and Cordia)

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Yes, I meant mobile devices only. The problem if we say "Linux", some people will say to bring in Android. Perhaps we can say any mobile platform that officially supports open source Qt. (To my knowledge, IOS, Android and WM do not)

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Or maybe we can do a 'Tizen Coding Competition' next year, if the project goes on ;)

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Because of this I said "full featured Linux" - not Dalvik VM. ;)

I would prefer to continue using Qt - but perhaps we could ask the developers if they would switch to html5 especially for our competition. ;)

As far as I know Tizen doesn't support Qt officially. If we follow the rules of our Concil Tizen would disqualificate itself.

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As of today: most probably, yes. The feeling I had when finally we got the final results I would describe as a huge (I mean really huge) soap bubble exploding into millions of smaller ones, which some seconds later are exploding into a double rainbow (all the way!)... :D

But I don't know where I'll be next year. Maybe I'll have married my girl, maybe we'll await our first child and I'll not be sitting in front of a PC but shopping Baby clothes, who knows? ;)

What I want to say is that I'm not important as a person. It is the idea and the community around the idea.

edit: but I won't volunteer again for sure if some of you will continue to write my nick with an upper case "z"! :P

Qt would be one option... Let's not forget that Meltemi will be built on Qt as well...

Would love to tell you more but I'm under NDA. :/

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Well, Harmattan should still be there next year - that's a solid target by itself IMO.

• good old Maemo is not really going anywhere + there was even a stable CSSU release recently and an in-progress Harmattan QML Components port
• Nemo, Plasma active - also possible targets, though without corporate backing
• Tizen - also possible target, thought its a bit too quiet about it
• Meltemi - ?
• Other - SHR, Ubuntu, Archlinux, Hackable might also become a viable mobile Linux platforms some day in the (near) future...

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Thanks - I'm just glad you didn't say "Hell no!" If circumstances change, you can always spend a little time but help out a lot by guiding others on how the competition works so there is a little continuity.

My thought was to keep at least one person who is now familiar with the voting process. It was not so easy to work that out this time - hopefully we retain what we learned so we don't go through as much trouble next year.

The reason I suggested Qt is that it is open source, community governed, and a bridge between Maemo and the future. Most apps in this competition were Qt, and Qt has a solid future even though Maemo (and Harmattan) face challenges in 2012. If Tizen officially supports Qt, then great, it can join the party - and the party doesn't change that much. (Same with Meltemi.) But if not, my personal feeling is HTML5 is too far afield from maemo.

Rather than addressing who additional might come in, should we think about who might be left out? Is there any concern about leaving gtk+ behind?

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Don't forget to send out the invitations as soon as possible! The most of us have to book a flight and a hotel to bestead you during your big moment. :D (I'm talking about the marriage, not the baby) *g

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I didn't expect that. Thanks to all participants on both sides of the voting booths for making this competition such a success (both in general and personally :))!

As required, the Nine Men's Morris game is available in the Ovi store: http://store.ovi.com/content/178163.
And if there is anything you dislike about that application, I'd be happy to hear about it, for example here.

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Oh, by the way, b0unc3 - is it to late to ask if it is possible to get a N900 with a german keyboard layout?

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I think it's not possible, BTW I'll ask and let you know.

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fyi
I haven't got all the information from all 1st prize winners.
So I asked my admin to send me the database of competition.meetmeego.org some days ago. No answer yet. If I won't get the database until tomorrow I'll try to figure out which the nicknames of the missing winners are here over at the forum, to contact them via PM.
I want to send the information to Nokia in one piece. It wouldn't look good if I'd write: "well, here are the first three, maybe tomorrow you'll get the next two. And then some later..."

edit: got the database.