Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

I think it would make it a bit easier to read the Application Proposals table in the wiki if the column widths were adjusted, am I OK editing them?

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

yes, of course! thanks!

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

hey, I just have seen that the design got updated!
http://competition.meetmeego.org/
also another submission:
http://competition.meetmeego.org/submissions/6

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Suggestions:
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Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Donation update:
30,00€ by MyNokiaN900
Thanks!
App update:
Flashlight Applet
Thank you, too!

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

From the rules:

Hmm... how to ensure that there is really "progress which has been made during the Competition", and how are the voters able to check this?

Are there anywhere a exclamation mark during the voting?
Or will the users only see the final outcome?

Are there any plans for a handicap system?

If someone has a finished application (released 6 Month ago) and the programmer only changes the icon. Is the change big enought?
Are there any kind of difference compared to fresh and new created applications regarding the voting process?

Don't understand me wrong. But I'm using the flashlight applet since the end of 2009. And I haven't seen much changes sind the middle of 2010. It simply works great. No need the change anything... (as far as I'm able to see)
So what could be changed until the end of June? :confused:

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Thanks!
I didn't know about the Flashlight Applet, because I'm not using it.
It's good everyone keeps an eye on that.
I kindly ask the submitter to remove the app, or explain which changes are planned to be made.

Or we would have to change the rules to allow only apps developed (submitted) during the Coding Competition.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

In my case, when i finally get around to submitting it (anytime before the end of june is ok yeah?) hopefully it will be straigforward to convince that coding started after the 1st april...but i guess its hard to proove.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

You should try it. The Flashlight Applet is a great application! :)

I used the screen before if I needed something to find my way in the night. This works in the most cases. But the Camera flashlight is even brighter.
It's a good idea how the application works. But you shouldn't forget it how to reach it.
Open the Camera shutter, close the Camera application, open the Applet menu and activate the flashlight.

Otherwise you don't see it at the Applet Menu. Thats great, it doesn't waste space... and it is there as soon as you are able to use it. :)

I have to admit, I'm still using the 0.4-2 release from July 2010. There were 3 updates since July. Have a look here: Package page

I haven't installed the update because the new versions were, as far as I've seen, only different translations. And I was very pleased how this application works. So I haven't seen any reason for me to update.
Perhapse I'm because of this a little bit distrustful what could he change to participate this year. :confused:

Perhaps already existing applications should include a list of changes during the competition?

No, this could mislead talented developers to hold back their new applications until the next coding competition. In my opinion is this against the spirit of our community Coding Competition. :)

Or have I understood it wrong? :)

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Reading the project page on the competiton website, the platform is MeeGo ARM.

I presume therefore that the developer has ported the application across, and this app should therefore be submitted under the Port category discussed earlier on this thread. But a brief look at the website shows no such option.

It goes without saying that porting is an important service so I think the app should be considered in that (port) category.

Edit: I might be completely off course here. The platforms' page doesn't make a distinction between MeeGo ARM and Maemo, so it could be the maemo app that is being submitted

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

damn... just donated 10€ and forgot the username :D

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

as she said^^

In total we've now 283,00€ in donations gross, 12,24€ PayPal fees, that makes 270,76€ in donations net.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Wow, 12,24€ Donations for PayPal. I guess we have already a competition winner...








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Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

ahaha! its so ignorant and lazy of me that you can type something on that blank box! :D

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

awright! since I forgot to put my username and paypal took longer to send me the confirmation...than expected.....my confirmation number is 7591xxxxxxxxx584K...........

shoot........

EDIT: i did not forgot! i was not reading and paying attention to simple instructions.....:o

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Ys, I think so.
It would only mean that it's against the rules to submit an App which was released already before 1st April.
It is no problem to submit an App which was developed before 1st April if it wasn't released.
Because I think the voters will vote the App and not the changes made during the timeframe. We were able to see that with the PSX emulator submission in the last coding competition.
What do you think?

The submission site got another update: http://competition.meetmeego.org
Do you like it? Would you like to see something different? Are there bugs?
Then please open a bug: http://dev.c-base.org/redmine/projects/contesta
Thanks!

Submission update: The first game and the first MeeGo x86 project was submitted:
Tribute

Donation update:
20€ by gabby131 (if I understood his last post right...

Thank you all!

edit: with the last donation we broke the 300€ mark!
another update: new App submission will now be posted on http://twitter.com/meetmeego automagically!

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

In my humble opinion we shouldn't exclude already released applications. This would punish develpers that have worked a lot the past months to give us their applications for free. How frustrating would this be for a programmer if he has released something last march?

No... But there MUST exist significant progress during the competition. It's hard to judge, I know. We have to trust every contributor in some way. As piggz said, we're unable to check everything. We are unable to check if the development began this April or last December. But we should exclude Applications with minor changes (different icon, other menu layout). And this has to be judged case by case. (only my humble opinion)

We have to tolerance some things... but not everyting. Sometimes a programmer has a lot of work to implement something and a other Programmer will win with only 5 hours of work simply with the much better idea.

This contest is from and for the community. Its about everyting, the idea, the concept, marketing, popularity and the execution. Sad for developers that nobody will judge how well the source code is written. But I guess this is totally out of the scope if a totally multicolored community with a lot different people elect a winner by vote.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

The submission site is getting better and better. Thanks! :)

But I would add a short abstract text above the pictures of each application and place the external url below the pictures.

The long details text at the end is fine. I like it this way. :)

We have at the moment enought time and there are only a few submissions. The 8 people will have enought time to add a short text to a additional field until the end of the competition.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

abstract its already in there as you can see at http://mcc.base45.de/submissions/5.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Oh, sorry. Was unable to see because nobody has filled in something. My fault! ;)

Thanks! :)

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

I don't think the abstract field was available initially. I don't remember seeing it when I first submitted my application. I have made use of it now. :)

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

thats right, i just added it yesterday.

I also added a mini userprofile when you logged in and klick on your email address at the upper right corner.

There you can enter your name and set a beginner flag.

The beginner flag will be used for the beginner "category" later.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

It wasn't, i added the text when i saw it was available...

TRX.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

I don't know if anyone mentioned this already, but the link at http://competition.meetmeego.org/ that points to this thread is broken.


"in the maemoforum thread!" only gives you the meego coding competition picture.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Fixed!
Thanks a lot!

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Could anyone please check the new submission: Pinball
The external link says So this app existed for MeeGo before 1st April?

Also I just got the confirmation of Intels prizes for the competition. We're still discussing about who will get the prizes, but all I can say at the moment is that it is for MeeGo x86 Apps which are submitted and validated to the AppUp store and the prizes itself consist of Intel SSDs.

Also we'll hear soon from Nokias MeeGo devices. Sorry, I'm not allowed to talk more about that, but it's really, really soon.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

It is good to hear that some part of Nokia is still active on these community matters.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

If it is only for x86 apps, then im a bit stuck as although i would love to see my game on AppUp, i have no way of testing it before hand. I presume there will be a separate bunch of prizes for arm apps?

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

At the moment there are the flights + hotel to the MeeGo Conference in November for every category winner, the money from the donations for the follow-ups (decision of distribution pending), the book from kojacker for the winner of the beginner category and a surprise prize.
We still hope to get money from qt and Developer MeeGo Devices.

Now Intel agreed to get us these SSDs for the best Apps submitted to the AppUp store...

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Bigger problem then that it's x86 is the different form factors. I say just compile your app for x86 package it in rpm and upload it to AppUp.
Even if you had an x86 device, for example a MeeGo tablet, can you be certain that your app will work with another tablet? Maybe it has different screen resolution, no keyboard, no light sensor, etc...
Try to make it as robust as you can, always create some fallback mechanism on things you can count on.
For example I want to use the light sensor as a trigger in my game, but will also make possible to tap on a part of a screen to do the same action as a fallback if it doesn't find the sensor.
I don't think that developers working on Android apps test them on all possible devices.
You can get feedback from those that have x86 devices and work on those problems, but if you don't publish, no feedback.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

true, infact, i already have fallbacks for the accelerometer and touch screen, though its not as nice to play with keys...i shall have to set up a meego dev environment..

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

I have currently 3 applications in the pipeline and a additional Idea. I guess I won't have enought time for my additional Idea (have to much to learn to do it before) but I'm planing to release the 3 other applications before the end of the competition. :)

• Sadly my Conky Layout Switcher is currently too Maemo specific, I need anyway first a running Conky port at MeeGo and in the end I need a Device to see how it could work there with the Applet Plugin Menu... :confused:

• My next Idea is very tight interwoven with the N900 hardware. In my opinion a port will not make any kind of sense at this stage... so no! And I won't talk about this Idea before I'm ready to release something beside the fact that it will target the "Fun & Strange" categories. :D

• In the end I would only be able to port my last Application over to x86 MeeGo. I guess this would work fine. But I would need there a Hardware for testing, too. I can't and wouldn't release a software that writes data to a disk without testing it before myself! And I hope no other developer will do so.

My last years submission DreamRemote couldn't take part at this years contest. So I wouldn't waste my time porting this Application if I'm not able to use it myself at such kind of mysterious x86 device.

If someone release a Handset with Keyboard that fits my needs I will try to port my applications. If there will only be a Tablet: No chance! Because I don't need such kind of Hardware and I'm surely not planning to buy such a Device only to release a application at this Hardware for free. NO! I would buy a SSD before myself. They are not that expensive. :)

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Screw that, we will get more.
Just waiting for the written confirmation (just got the confirmation during a call) to publish all the prizes over here...

The SSDs we're getting cost 200€ each in retail stores...

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

On the submission page (as ive now submitted something!) it asks for an optional binary upload. is it ok that the app is in extras-devel instead, as it relies on libs in there anyway, and a package on its own may not work.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Don't put my statement out of the context. :)
I would buy a SSD before myself if I must buy a expensive Tablet to put myself in a position to be able to develop something for the x86 platform.

I don't spend 500€ for a Tablet to have a lot of work and in the end I could only win a 200€ SSD. But I would spent 1000€ for a Mobile if it fits my needs because I would use it for a lot more stuff beyond development. :)

Don't get me wrong. I participate not to win a price. I participate to be a part of it, to learn more about my device, development, linux and to have some fun developing something that works in the end. But I wouldn't spent additional money for devices I don't use in the end. In this case I would develop Android applications, too. (useless for me but a large client base)

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

I am considering entering the competition with an app for Maemo. I'm new to Qt development so this would be a 'beginner' category app.

When is the right time to enter the submission? Do I have to wait to have the application done to announce it or should I put a placeholder in now?

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

yes, that's okay. Just put a link to the .install file there so everyone can easily install your app.

You can enter whenever you're comfortable to. It just need to be there before the end of the competition which is on 30 June 2011.

Two new donations:
20€ by jurop88
25€ by Creamy Goodness

Check all donations here: http://wiki.maemo.org/MeeGo_Coding_C...ity_Prize_Fund

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

okay, here is the deal:
the prizes are one for each category.
first prize: Flight + Hotel to the MeeGo Conference in November
second or third prize: Intel 510 Series 120GB, 2.5", SATA 6Gb/s SSD
second or third prize: Intel Oaktrail SDP (SoftwareDevelopmentPlatform) Hardware Coupon (because it's not yet available)
follow-ups: Money from the donations and eventual sponsoring
We're still in contact with some manufacturers to get development hardware DURING the competition.

Re: MeeGo Coding Competition 2011
 

Currently the Intel AppLab is happening at the MeeGo Freeday in Berlin.
Don't worry if you're not here, we're streaming it live:
http://c-base.org/

Have fun!