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Donation update (and again triple post! yes!!!)
15€ by claw.

Thanks!

edit: quadruple post!!! I think that's a new personal record! ;)

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This is a different kind of competition and ergo off-topic! :p

Please create a new thread. This one is only about the MeeGo Coding Competition 2011. So please keep it clean. :D:D:D
Anyway, thanks for the donation update. ;)

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I would like to remind everyone who filled in at the wiki to submit the app at the official submission site: http://competition.meetmeego.org.
Only those apps, which are submitted there are taking part at the competition.
But no hurry, the competition still runs for nearly two months..

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[sigh] Why is it always me? :(

I've got good news for the MeeGo Coding Competition and sad news for myself...

The good news: There is a new submission at our Submission website. :)

The sad news: My submission has the Index Number 13... :mad:

Oh NO! Is this a bad omen? Will my small App whipe all your data? Will your Device get alive? Will it bring a lot of pain? Will it support Skynet to track and find you at the Judgment Day?! :eek:
I hope not... but perhaps we never know. :confused: ...I'm afraid...

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would there be any issue in also publishing an app for the competition on the Ovi Store for symbian, or should i wait until after the competition? The ease of cross-compiling from Qt is awesome!

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I guess there is no issue. But only the Maemo/MeeGo users would be able to vote and please don't urge Symbian useres to vote for your Application. But as far as I'm able to read from the rules you could publish wherever you want! :)

Reverstris is also aviable for Android if I know right...

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you're allowed to publish your app wherever you want.
but you can enter the competition with MeeGo/maemo only

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Well, i wouldnt mind a small amount of £££ to subsidise a faster laptop....all the compiling and running virtual machines is making this one seem not so fast! :P

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ofcourse, that goes without saying

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zehjotkah, the link to the http://competition.meetmeego.org/ at your page http://meetmeego.org/ is broken. (under your Coding Competition Logo)

It directs to 2http://competition.meetmeego.org/" instead of http://competition.meetmeego.org/

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thanks a lot!
it's fixed now.

edit: we should start to think about how we will distribute the donated money..

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Give it to me and I would be fine. ;)

I liked the last years solution. Gave the money only to people that haven't won something like a device, a flight or a car with MeeGo-IVI inside.
The Community Donations are not that hight and a 300$ Device from a Vendor will always be a more expensive prize compared to a 40$ Money donation. So distribute the Money only to place 2 and 3 would be okay for me. If we have enought money we could gave place 4 also something like last year. (I liked this solution a lot with my small 4th placed contribution) ;)

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Several Developers liked my idea, but no reaction from you, zehjotkah. So I guess you have thought about it and decided that this is not possible. Am I right? Or have we not enought prizes?

Here is my "additional" suggestion:

Edit:
A german Link to a Device, similar to the Device from Sony Ericsson, but from Texas Instruments and more stylish: Meta Watch
Offician Page: http://www.metawatch.org/

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I think I forgot it... :o

I meant how we'll distribute the donated money. I think we should just distribute it to the 4th place...

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Or tried hard to don't see it... :p

Yes I have read your question. I would second the solution from last year. I just thought it was a good moment to point you at my old post... ;)

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The solution from last year was to distribute the money among the second and third places.
This year I would propose to distribute the money among the fourth places only, as we have
- already great prizes for the first three places
- as of now less money
- as of now less submissions

I hope the last two points will still change, though.

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Okay, I understand you points. As far as I know was the money last year spread over the second, third and fourth place. But you're right. The donations are not that hight as last year.
Perhaps some programmers are waiting until they have something ready to distribute. Perhaps they are afraid to show it now and nobody is interested at the end of june?

But a very present fact is bugging us this year. The Community was last year a lot stronger and more euphoric. :( I hope something could stop M$...

Donations among the fourth places is okay if we have enought for place 1 to 3. :)

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Yep you're correct Helmuth, thats what we did :) The Nokia/Linux foundation prize was a lot more valuable than what the 1st place would have been, so we felt it was better to spread the collected bounty out to more people. However i remember not everyone was happy with this arrangement, in particular one of the low points for me was that one of our members (Gary) was unhappy that his donation would be used in this way (he felt strongly that the 1st place winner should also get a share of the bounty). But he's probably forgotten all about it now, so nobody remind him ;) It's would be a good idea to get this confirmed asap though so people will know exactly how their donation will be used.

In regards to the 1st place prizes from the last competition, there was some confusion as to how our winners could claim their trips/handsets, and also that some of the winners had to spend money first to book flights etc and have it reimbursed later. It would be brilliant if not only the prizes are nailed down confirmed but the process for the winners to claim them is known in advance of the end date (if possible). Takes the worry out of it for everyone, that includes the organizers too! I remember last time reading a few worried posts from various people and really not being able to do anything about it to help them myself. But in the end everything worked out alright :)

Agreed, a lot of the developers from last time have moved on. Having said that, a lot of the entries for the previous competition came in the final few weeks so I'd still hope for a small avalanche towards the end :)

From what i can tell, a lot of the buzz is really coming from what remains of the maemo.org side. Is there much buzz from meego.com or the ex-Moblin guys? I am a member of meego.com but in truth I rarely visit there. I'd be interested to hear how much they have gotten behind the competition,

Part of the problem appears to be that there isn't enough developers out there with MeeGo devices to work on, on the other hand Intel has literally handed out thousands of MeeGo netbooks/tablets over the past year. If we could get a small fraction of these guys to enter the competition (even as beginners) it would be a great boost. zehjotkah did his bit at the recent MeeGo freeday announcing the competition to the attendees just before they picked up their free hardware, I hope they listened and will take the time to repay Intel's kindness with a quick app of any description/quality.

From twitter there doesnt seem to be that many developers I know with MeeGo/Qt devices to work on, other than the N900. Most of these have moved onto Android rather than followed the natural path to MeeGo. I can also see that there are journalists who have received 5-6 MeeGo devices from attending various meetings and conferences, but who have no intention of entering the competition or even programming on the device ever. I suspect I might have bid for a few of them on ebay recently :p If i was working for Intel in charge of distributing devices to the community, I'd have suggested reaching out to the developers from the last competition and, if they were interested in the platform, giving them a tablet/notebook pre-loaded with MeeGo to work on and a link to the comp wiki page. But then again, Im biased :p Has anyone reached out to the previous entrants to make sure they are aware of the new competition and to ask if they are thinking of entering this time?

There also seems to be a lot of Intel AppUp competition's running, i fear we may be competing with them a little for the same developers.

With MeeGo conf around the corner, in the next few weeks we may see a new explosion in MeeGo interest. Hopefully zehjotkah and others will be able to get the word out amongst the attendees somehow, particularly the developers in the audience. I recommend hanging out in the hack spaces after dark, look for the very drunk people ;)

Having said all I said, I haven't entered so I need to take a look at myself. Im sure I can squeeze out an app or two over the next few weekends, if only I can think of some ideas! :)

Agreed :) As long as we have something substantial for 1-3 (prizes, share of bounty, whatever) then it doesnt hurt to spread it out a bit further to 4th. In truth there's not much left when it gets to 4th place, but the winners seemed very appreciative last time :)

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Donation update:
30€ by OVK

Thanks a lot!

There are some new submissions at the submission site, too.
http://competition.meetmeego.org/

You can also see now, who has already submitted the app to the official site and who not: http://wiki.maemo.org/MeeGo_Coding_C...1#Participants
(and therefore who is taking part at the compatition and who not)

edit: as a response to kojackers questions regarding Intel ExoPC Tablet:
Normally nobody should get more than one device. I've seen some guys who tried to get more than one, but they failed because we have digital lists with the names and addresses of the recipients.. :D btw. those were always bloggers, not a single developer tried to get more.
yesterday we had the "MeeGo Hack Sonntach" (MeeGo Hacking Sunday in german slang) where we invited those who got an ExoPC at the last MeeGo Freeday as part of the coding competition. We were about 20 people and you should see some really cool MeeGo Tablet Apps during the next few weeks.

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I will second that. :)

I'm very interestend in the MeeGo platform, I contributed last time with 1 application and I'm contributing currently to this competition with 2 applications. I hope I will get 3 ready until the end of June. One of those should be easily portable to MeeGo Handset and Tablet. Perhaps I could rewrite my DreamRemote in C++/Qt, too. The interface could benefit from QML. But without a Device I'm unable to test and develop for it... :(

Sadly Berlin is to far away for me. So I couldn't attend to the several MeeGo events. :(

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Awesome! looking forward to seeing those :cool:

It mentions in the wiki that MeeGo devices could be provided to developers with 'promising' applications. I have no idea how that would be judged but I'm sure you must be in with a chance, not only because of the excellent quality of your applications but also because of your enthusiasm for developing with Qt and your obvious interest in developing MeeGo skills - in addition to your support of both competitions so far. Hopefully you'll be rewarded for your dedication, and that goes for everyone else working hard on their applications too :)

I did reply to a tweet from @Develop4AppUp mentioning something similar in regards to Uk/Ireland, there seems to be so many events in Germany and India. I didnt receive any reply but hopefully these events will spread out a bit further in the future. In reality, it's because of the hard work of guys like zehjotkah who get these events arranged in his home country of Germany. If only we had a zehjotkah everywhere :rolleyes::p

Edit: wait.. Ive just noticed your country is listed as Germany, Helex! Berlin can't be that far away! Maybe it's time you had a vacation to the capital ;)

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Me too! Some should be really awesome!

helex, just sent you an email.

I hope to come back to you with more info regarding an AppLab in UK later this day. (edit: check your mails)
Thanks for your nice words.
yes, helex, you should really move to Berlin! ;)

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Germany is not THAT small, kojacker. Berlin is on the opposite corner of germany. For me to expensive at the moment and I use my rare sparetime currently rather to develop my small projects instead of traveling around the world. :)

Thanks zehjotkah. I guess after your email I'm even more unable to have a vacation in Berlin. :p In fact I need a day off or two for the MeeGo Coding Competition 2011. ;)

If someone is able to spent me some spare time, Donations are welcome! :D

MOVE?! Kojacker has only mentioned to have a vacation at Berlin... and you're instantly advise to move?! :p
No no no! I even don't speak the same language... And what would happen with my Family and my Job? ;)
No, that wouldn't happen. Perhaps a vacation. But not this year.

Now, if you'll excuse me, Qt and QTcpServer is waiting... :D

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Great work everyone. Donation sent today

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Dang it sucks that the comp ends 30th June. My uni finishes 29th June, which leaves me a whole day (2 given timezones?) to write the application I was going to spend all Summer writing :P

Would have loved to enter a 'newcomer' program into the competition.

Ps. Next year consider running it till end of July? Then all university students get a good opportunity to spend their month off programming :P

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As he said. ;)
10€ by br1zer

Have fun with your new MeeGo device!

edit:
another donation:
10€ by tpd

thanks a lot!

edit2:
we now got 303€, 13,37€ PayPal fees, that makes 289,63€ in total.

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Thanks a lot!
I guess the pressure to release something great will get now even higher... I hope I'm able to release something useful targeting MeeGo until the end of June... :)

By the way: If someone knows a little bit about linux and daemons, please give me a leading hand!

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I added a couple of application proposals to wiki: UAE4All Hildon UI and Calendar item privatizer.

If somebody is interested to know more what I was thinking about when proposing those, please just ask.

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Donation update:
25 € ny annonymous. please send me your nickname if you don't want to be listed as annonymous.

Thanks a lot!

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Inner-Spin now added..... looks to be some fabulous entries up already!! I look forward to teying them all out! :)

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/offtopic
Look who is here :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btxaTIBTWIs

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Coool.. it's Chippy! :D

BTW who's this Cosimo Kroll guy? ;) It says he's a developer... should we be expecting an application from him? :D

Just to fill people in - Chippy (https://twitter.com/chippy) is a mobile computing enthusiastic/writer/blogger and owner editor of www.carrypad.com. The guy at the end was Ash, a MeeGo evangelist, from www.MeeGoExperts.com (https://twitter.com/MeeGoExperts). The mystery developer dude looks a lot like this guy https://twitter.com/zehjotkah ;) If you have twitter you should add them all up, great sources of Maemo/MeeGo/general mobile news and views :cool:

Ive no idea who the other guy being interviewed (angry birds t-shirt) was :p

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sheesh^^
those guys at Intel USA never get it right.. :rolleyes:
I even gave them my card with "MeeGo Evangelist" printed on... :p
You can find Julien (the Angry Bird guy) here http://www.linkedin.com/in/julienfourgeaud and on twitter: http://twitter.com/jfourgeaud

Okay back to some serious stuff..
Donation update:
10 € by hassyy (there is no user called hassyy on tmo or forum.meego.com)
30 € by annonymous (can't even find the nickname based on a real name google search...)

We've also some new submissions at http://competition.meetmeego.org/ worth to check out.
Also please submit your app there if you haven't already.

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Updated my Nepali Calendar to version 0.1.0 which is also in devel now. I think I am done with it. I have few ideas that I might implement (or if someone else wants to implement it, its fine).

1. Green Earth: App that will notify frequently (say once in 5 minute) if the device is connected to charger and battery is fulled. Useful if you charge your device at place a bit far or invisible from where you stay (you can't hear those small short charge full tone and those notification light).

2. What's Today or Today Info app: Store some international days (May Day just passed), Upon opening application it will show message box with info about today (if there's some international day today), might later turn into a desktop widget but no association with calendar, you won't like to have those international days in your calendar, would you?

3. PicoCAD: I thought of MicroCAD first, then NanoCAD and now PicoCAD, which would be small application for vector graphics. Although making it function rich would be harder, getting basic things done shouldn't be harder. I actually made very small version with only draw line by inputting coordinate, but paused it afterward.

4. Port engauge which is graph digitizer software written in earlier version of Qt, import image and get coordinates of lines in the graph. I tried a bit to port it and it almost got compiled (only few errors were left) but I messed it and then pause again.

5. Some engineering calculation software, maybe culvert design, pavement width calculation, area calculator or whatever.

Now my question is which app would you guys like to see? If you guys are interested in any of those app, then do mention. If there are noticeable number of guys who are interested in any of those, then I might give it a try else I am too busy these days.

Note that I am just a beginner and hence don't expect too much.

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I don't know how much "end users" are following this thread. So perhaps you could ask here your question again to get more feedback. :)

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Question (or at least clarification)...

what constitutes a "Beginner" Entry... I have currently said Yes for the Inner-Spin entry, seeing I have not previously developed anything for the n900 (or indeed any mobile/handheld device), or indeed any game before beyond the odd hobby pc game that never saw the light of day.

However I am certainly not a beginner in terms of being a software developer.. with far too many years of experience to mention, so feel this might be a misrepresentation?

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The "Beginner" entry is for those who are developing something for the first time for maemo/meego (iirc).
So you should be fine.

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thanks, thought it won't be good idea to create a separate thread, thanks for pointing to right direction.

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@Tpd:

Thank you, I was going to ask exactly the same question. :)

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Bumpity-bump to draw attention to http://developer.meego.com/, a one-stop shop for developers who are keen to learn more about developing for MeeGo devices. You can download the MeeGo SDK from there, get information on targeting and setting up devices, and there's some tutorials to get beginner's started on their first applications.

The "Getting started" section (http://developer.meego.com/guides/getting-started) might be of particular interest, and includes guides such as:

• MeeGo application development overview
  
• Getting started with the MeeGo v1.2 SDK for Linux
  
• Getting started with the MeeGo v1.2 SDK for Windows
  
• Create your first application: Hello World

For those without MeeGo devices but would like to try it out on their N900:

• Setting up the Nokia N900 for MeeGo Development

I've only found out about the site tonight thanks to twitter so I'm still looking around it, but it seems to have a lot of good info on there, and worth checking it out even for general Maemo and Qt development. Because Qt is common ground, a lot of the information is relevent to us here too :cool:

On the last competition wiki we had a section for information on getting started with development, I might add the above links into the new wiki if that's alright. ((Edit: Added section 9, Application Developer Resources to wiki)). Also during the last competition I made a few different tutorials showing newbs (other newbs, like myself at that time) how to create N900 applications with various technologies (there were tutorials for Qt, PyQt, Pygame). I think it would be real benefit to the community if one of us with a MeeGo device could create some tutorials that we could follow along with and ask questions on. I have a 2 year old Compaq notebook somewhere I'm going to find and see if I can install MeeGo on it, if that works out I'll create a couple of guides and link them here. Would anyone with a properly configured MeeGo device be interested in creating a tutorial or two? Since the last comp we've had Qt Quick and QML, so maybe something on that. And also something for the Maemo developer getting started with MeeGo, for example can we run the Maemo and MeeGo tool chain together? Any issues with that? How best to setup and target applications for both from the same development machine? etc etc.. In the meantime the guides etc on the developer.meego.com site will be there, please add some links to other guides/tutorials you've found that you think have been particularly useful too :)

Edit: Ive put a shout out on twitter for Maemo devs now working on MeeGo apps to share some experiences. Does anyone know any of the devs on here who are now making MeeGo apps? I can't think of anyone off the top of my head.. which is a little worrying.. but there must be some :o It'd be cool if we can find a member that would be willing to assist with any questions our competition participants might have :cool:

((2 names so far, b0unc3 and tlaukkanen))

Edit 2: Sorry for the long MeeGo centric post, ofcourse we're welcome to forget all about MeeGo and stick to our Maemo guns when developing our competition entries - both Maemo and MeeGo apps are equally valid. Hope I havent confused anyone! Just thinking of those who'd be interested in the switch or testing their app on both platforms :)

Edit 3: looks like we got our first entry for the Fun & Strange section, and it's from friend of the contest Helex! N900 X-Ray!