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1. Connected BH-214 headset via Bluetooth. 2. Started music playback on stock player. 3. Used pause/play button to pause and restart music. 4. Used answer/hang-up button on headset to answer incoming call, and then used answer/hang-up button again to end call. 5. Initiated outgoing call from handset dialler, then used answer/hang-up button on headset to end call. In all cases, I observed correct functionality. Music playback paused and resumed automatically with no degradation of sound quality. Call quality was satisfactory. My conclusion is that the BH-214 headset works correctly with this kernel. Many thanks for your work. A final question: is there a version of the kernel-power-settings package which is compatible with this kernel? |
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Hi all guys
I'm from Italy, member of smartphonetab.net community, where a lot of italian n900's owner works together to carry on our loved smartphone. We found a problem, occurred after the installation of the latest PK version. Many of us, almost all of us, are suffering from heavy battery drain. After some months of testing we found two different possible causes of the problem. - First is the concurrency of the Battery patch installation with the latest version of PK. It seems that many of us experienced heavy battery drain in standby mode (eg, during the night, no wifi, no bt, no widget, no data connection, 2g module locked), solved only after removing battery patch (reflashing the n900 without installing it again is the safest way to leave this first problem behind us) - The second one, still unsolved, is (again..) a huge battery drain when using the n900 (eg, wifi browsing, reproducing media, the tipical use of a smartphone). Most of us observed that the effective battery life in now half than what usual without power kernel or with a previous version of this. Wondering why this strange behavours occurs only with PK49, we noticed that in the version 49's changelog is indicated a new version of the bq27x00 module. We also observed that the recharging time is now limited only at 2 hrs (from empty to full ), when with the previous PK versions (and with the stock one too) is around 3-4 hrs (from empty to full). One of our users removed PK49 on a n900 suffering this kind of trouble, reinstalling the version 48. He got it, now the phone is back to a normal drain of the battery, excluding an hardware failure. I'm asking you if someone here noticed the same kind of problem with the PK49 and if Pali has been informed that something is wrong with battery management. Concluding i ask you sorry for my bad language, i never speak english in my normal life so I am a bit rusty ^^ Cheers d! |
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Also over/under-voltage (which can reduce/drain battery) can be configured by kernel-config application (from kernel-power-settings package). Try to use other kernel-config profiles, maybe it solve this problem. Somebody else also see high battery draining after upgrading from v48 to v49? |
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Don't use it. Seriously - it's worthless, pointless, festering crap. (Note - you're going to get this a lot on this thread). |
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I can assume as English is not your first language that you probably do not read these forums so much. So I will make this simple. Battery patch is not supported by the KP development team. If you have an issue running KP49+battery patch you must raise it with the creator of battery patch in the battery patch thread.
Almost all people here have no problems with KP49. All people who do not have problems also do not use battery patch. The suggestion being, don't use battery patch until it's creator can solve the conflict with KP49. To aid in the diagnosis of your battery issues, use top, powertop etc. |
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gi-non yersell big man! |
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Ok guys, thank you for your replies.
Yes, my english sucks so often i miss something reading 3ds. I know battery patch is not developed by Pali, it was my just 2 cents about it. In reply to Pali, i'm already using a not default profile, to undervolt my phone. I'm currently running an ULV profile without no stability issues. I did different test using the phone at 600, 720, 805 and 850 MHz too, with no significative differences in battery drain. Is still higher than with the stock kernel. I also reflashed my phone, to have a fresh and clean installation for the PK, but the problem are still unsolved. The thing that, more than other, sound me weird, is the time needed to charge the battery: 2hrs, sometimes less too, when with the default kernel is longer, almost 3 hrs or more. Obviously, i tested a second battery too, with the same results. In addition, i daily use Cony to monitor process in background, there is not something wrong running in background. It just seems that my battery is recognized with less capacity than usual. No one of you noticed the same problem? d! |
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my browser begin to reload all the time, random reboot, etc, after install this kernel, lol
but nice job indeed, long live maemo, :) |
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On the side note - how do you measure battery drain? @Pali - did you build .debs with my latest patches and audiofilter patch disabled? |
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My battery charging time has never been more than 2 hours (OK, according to battery-eye: Longest charge time 2:13). If your was needing 3 hours or more, you were either running some demanding program while charging, or you are using a non-standard charger and/or non-standard battery. You could install battery-eye and visually check what's going on with your N900. Powertop may also help, but it's harder to get any (useful) information from that. |
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Sure, freemangordon, i will once at home. Catch you here later man, thank you for your support
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Hey man, thank you to you too. I can't post previous value from battery eye statistics, 'cos when i reflashed the device the database went to the databases' valhalla :) I'm still sure that the time needed for a full recharging, before installing PK49, was about 3 hrs. And i'm using the original charger supplied with the n900. The battery is not degraded, i compared it with another bl5j battery that i own, which came from another nokia phone recently bought (few recharge cycle). d! |
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Attached dmesg output as requested. Not at home yet, later i'll work with powertop
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For some reason you have bq27xxx module loaded. And some crappy piece of SW is polling it every now and then. Do you have Advanced Power installed by chance? |
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bq27x00-battery 2-0055: battery is not calibrated! ignoring capacity values Anyway, bq27x00_battery should not be loaded when BME is running! |
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but it depends on KP so if you removed Batttery patch and you still have the drain then the problem is not from it but KP is left installed you said Quote:
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doesn't Battery patch depend on it ? so installing KP caused the trouble installing Battery patch caused the trouble because it installed KP with it can not understand this btw there is a different drain from stock kernel i say 5% of extra drain by KP not much maybe because many modules loaded ? |
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EDIT: Your voltages look ok, not to say very high :). |
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@Seker_94 - if you pull your head from the no-sunshine place you hold it and make an effort to actually read what thedarkus, me and Pali wrote, then you will realize that your last post here is absolutely useless.
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guys, can i ask? where is the location of the temperature and the current value in this pk v49?
they are missing in /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/current_now and /sys/class/power_supply/bq27200-0/temp even the power_supply folder is missing. thanks. |
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Man, when i suspected there was something wrong with battery patch i started workin around it step by step. Before reflashing the device i tried different solution, first removing the battery patch. Observing that the problem was still there, i started lookin around for suggestion. On this forum i read a topic regarding the same question, where many users said that simply removing battery patch is not enough to solve the problem, 'cos some entry injected in configuration files still remain there despite the removal of the patch. This is why i prefered to reflash the device. Once did, i set up a new installation of power kernel choosing to not install again the battery patch. Then i saw that the problem was solved and read in this forum so many similar stories like mine. I came to the conclusion that the battery patch was responsable for the first problem i encountered. I have not any kind of problem about this patch, i loved it when i was running it with the stock kernel. But if I am just one of the many users that have a problem using it with PK, why should I use it again? I mean, maybe the manteiner of the project will fix the bug. When this will be done, i will reinstall it again. You probably misunderstood what i said in the post you have quoted. I didn't say that batttery patch is "the evil". I just only said that battery batch, in his current revision, used with PK49, was responsable for heavy battery drain in low-use mode. d! |
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For now, i want to thank you and all other people involved in the develope of the this custom kernel. I think your work is really appreciated by so many users all around the world. A couple of years ago i choose the n900 as my smartphone especially for the amazing community that works behind maemo. Having a direct partecipation of the mantainer of the project, the first time i had a problem, reveal to me that my choice was right. d! |
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Well, after upgrading to kp49 I had bq_27x00 added to /etc/modules (for unknown reason, as I certainly haven't put it there, but for other people sole KP installation wasn't resulting in adding it there too), so it was ignoring /etc/modules.d/blacklist.
So, thedarkus, please ensure that it isn't listed there (thus, loaded at boot time). As for batterypath, the funny think is that indeed it *is* evil, but it's thing discussed to oblivion in other threads. Just be sure, that You're not using speedpath to in "tandem" with KP, please. /Estel |
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7 days now running on dsp profile, no lags, no reboot, and at least 20 % of battery improvement when in daily use tasks like to watch movies and listen music included hands free, navigation, ssh, file transfers over sftp, etc. But for some reason, video player doesn't work pretty good when OCing to 850. No problem :) im very happy with 805 anyway... Thanks guys!!! Thats a very good work.
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Checked /etc/modules and bq27x00 isn't listed here. I am unable to find etc/module.d/blacklist in my device. No, i'm not running battery patch and i'm not running speedpatch. @ Pali, as i told you yesterday, i found the reason why the dmesg output was so full of error regarding the bq27x00 module: i really don't know why, but in qCpuFreq settings was selected the option "use more accurate temperature reading". Deselected that option, now my dmesg output is clean, without any kind of message regarding that module. I NEVER selected that option by my self, i can swear it. I can't tell you why that box was checked, I'm sorry. Someone asked me if i'm running advanced power monitor to have details about amount of power remaining in the battery. Yes, i'm running it. I removed it this morning, rebooted and observed the behaviour of the device: still the same, heavy battery drain. So i reinstalled it, 'cos I don't think is responsable for the problem. Someone asked me how i can tell you that i have heavy battery drain: simply, using both battery eye and battery graph apps, i can see that in only 7 hours, my battery drain almost 55% of energy available. This with the device locked, with no data connection, with wifi module disabled (by advanced interface switcher), in 2G only mode, with no widget, and without any kind of imput to the device. In almost 12 hrs, my battery die. I can observe the same behaviour with both battery that i own, the original found in the n900 box (2 yrs old) and with another that came from a new nokia i bought a couple of months ago (secondary device, fresh battery with 10 recharge cycle). I monitored running processes in the background, using conky and the top command in xterminal: there is nothing strange, except for Xorg process that continue to handle a log file named xorg.0.log, but with low cpu usage (2-4%). d! Attached to this post a .rar with dmesg ouptut, top output, kernel.config and mtd2 file |
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@thedarcus - please post here your powertop output.
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but when i reboot the device, everything is back to normal. |
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more /etc/modprobe.d/kernel-power.blacklist d! |
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Oh, thank you for your reply, but is not what happened to me, frequencies change quickly depending on the cpu's load. I'm running an ulv profile now d! |
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and random reboot happens when oc to 1ghz, with kp48 it was ok, web also always reload when overclocked over than 850mhz, =='
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38 | 186D| awk | cpufreq_governor_dbs (delayed_work_timer_fn)Also, output of 'lsmod' here. |
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Lol, man, i really don't what happened here :D I flashed the device, installed the power kernel 49, installed cssu updates and installed qCPuFreq, nothin more :D
I'm going to remove qCpuFreq right now, let's give a try in this way d! |
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1. reboot 2. wait 10 minutes device to settle down. 3. open xterm 4. do sudo gainroot 5. start powertop and immediately lock the device 6. wait about 90 secs. 7. post powertop result here. |
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There were not application running in that moment. I did a reboot just a minute before saving powertop output.
But i'm going to try in the way you suggested me, ready for reboot. Oh, i have also removed qCpuFreq d! |
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