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Yep, so no way to connect a N800 to an iphone. You need a third phone for that, but I hear it is possible to take out the SIM card from the iphone and use it in another phone.

Well, talk about ease of use in that case :D

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But, but... Don't you have a N95 now?

You should be só bashing the iPhone (<spit!>)...

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have you all seen the N95 vs iPhone videos on youtube? Funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6Q5QuhQzIE

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I have both and will continue to carry both. Different devices for different applications. While they each have features that cross over to the others target market, they are still different. I need to do certain things while out on the street. The n800 much as I love it isn't suited for viewing in daylight and it isn't always feasable to look for shade. Not to mention that I shouldn't and don't have to. I have a device that I can view in daylight. The n800 has multimedia capabilities, but I don't use them. For me they are too dissimilar to compare.

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Hey Karel, (Don't hate. Appreciate)
:) Yes I do by the way, but I do like the iPhone. Happiness is having a mother that retired from AT&T and can get a deal on the iPhone, however I can not use the outdated, slow EDGE network here in Europe. DARN. :)

I will use the iPhone as I would the N800 (if I had one), until a European version of the iPhone comes out. If Nokia creates another table successor to the N800, I will get this as well. Life is short, and it's only money. :) Gadgets rule..... :)

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((I've used an iPhone, but do not own or plan to own one))

The n800 is an internet viewer, with some other functionality added. It's hard to beat for those specific uses.

The iPhone is a phone, with some other functionality added. It's hard to beat for those specific uses.

Video display tends to depend on the use. The n800 is incredible for video or webcam use, thanks to the very high pixel density (1.4 times that of the iPhone) and slightly larger screen. The screen isn't quite as clear, due to the plastic screen cover, but in normal situations this isn't a major issue. The iPhone's lower pixel density makes it less pleasant to watch less compressed video on, and some web pages will not look as good -- and you'll be horizontal-scrolling on every page you get to. On the other hand, text tends to be more readable without zooming in.

The iPhone currently doesn't support Flash, instead using pre-encoded Youtube files in a different format. The n800 does support flash, although framerate can be far from perfect (usually 6 FPS or above for youtube ime). I'd put this one on the n800's side. Flash is important for a lot of navigation tools on the real net, although I'm not happy about that, it is important to remember.

Control schemes are variable. The iPhone probably wins as a base model, as it's easy enough to type with (with a high error rate) quickly, while the stylus tends to be slower. The n800 is far more improvable, though, either through the USB or bluetooth tricks, and those with large or greasy fingers will prefer the stylus over the multitouch system.

When it comes to expandability, the n800 wins, clear and full. You can install user applications, switch out batteries, or carry hundreds of gigabytes worth of SD cards (admittedly, while being driven insane trying to find the right one). The iPhone can dock with stuff. Kinda.

For voice in general, I'd put a tie. Neither of them have really outstanding microphones, but in both cases they're usable and seldom the weakest link compared to the digitalization methods used. For phone use, the iPhone wins simply because it can be a phone without a WiFi. If you just want a phone, the average 20 USD pay-as-you-go phone beats both in terms of normal use. You just can't blind dial with a touch screen, or juggle a bag with a glass sheet in it.

Dealing with data is many times easier with the n800 (or even 770) than the iPhone. Moving a file is as natural as dealing with the file structure we've all come to know and love, and individual files can be moved. Any recent (98 SE or later) Windows version, most Linux installations, and most Mac OS installations can all deal with it, no software installation required. It even works on 64-bit Windows installs, and very old systems need only find a simple USB driver. iPhone has... iTunes. You have to sync the whole thing at once, using special software. Pain in the backside.

Battery life is surprisingly comparable in some comparable uses -- with WiFi on, web browsing the iPhone tends to get around 3 hours, twenty minutes before needing a charge, similar to the n800's three to four hours, and both last 10 days or so on standby -- but varies outside of that. The iPhone can get 4 hours of video or 9 1/2 hours of music, while the n800 tends to go a little lower on that. The iPhone only gets around 5 hours of talk time, though, pretty pathetic compared to your typical phone. Those who plan to use the devices heavily for both media and phone would be advised to get a phone-n800 combo rather than the opposite.

Both the n800 and the iPhone seem pretty physically insecure. Large screens with no hard covers are not particularly pleasant. I'd personally say the n800's feels a bit safer thanks to the recessed screen, but it's a bit harder to clean. In either case, save yourself the lost hair and grab some sort of case. Alternatively, the 770 is much more capable of surviving impact.

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I have a 770, N800 and the iPhone. I also have a BlackBerry from work.

- The 770 is used as remote to my Squeezebox (SlimServer).

- The N800 is used around the house for browsing the web (great for reading in bed) and playing games. I also bring it with me when I travel. I don't carry it with me when I leave the house, because it is too big for my pockets (I am still looking for the best case for this with a belt clip).

- The iPhone is small enough that I can slip in my pocket when I leave the house. The nice thing about having a cellular data plan, so I can get updates on my stocks and use Google maps to find locations and points of interests (i.e. restaurants) without worrying about a wifi connection.

- If I need to tether, I bring my BlackBerry. When I am at work, I use my BlackBerry. On the weekends, I will use my iPhone.

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I own both, and will probably be selling the Nokia on eBay. Simply put, the two devices are different, but on balance the iPhone gives me everything I need in one gadget.

The iPhone is much closer to the device I have been wishing for than the Nokia. Nokia's vision for the IT was revolutionary, but the execution has been flawed, in my opinion.

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Just get a blackjack with WM6 rom (card index is cool) or htc TOUCH

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something interested me while reading wikipedia - apparently the iphone uses the same graphics processing chip as the nokia n800 does:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powervr

Samsung S5L8900 -- MBX + FPU + ARM11

* Apple iPhone

Texas Instruments OMAP2420 -- MBX + VGP + FPU + ARM11
# Nokia E90 Communicator
# Nokia N93
# Nokia N93i
# Nokia N95
# Nokia N800

both use the PowerVR MBX chip, and the only overall difference between the two ARM processors is that the iphone is clocked at 600mhz (compared to the n800's 330)

i wonder if apple has a better api for the MBX chip that we could port over to the n800 (not like they'd let us... but maybe reverse engineered? probably not worth the effort) because OSX and Linux are both *nix based at heart