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HellFlyer 2011-04-26 18:51

ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Well folks as of today this monster is available :D

http://www.asus.com/Eee/Eee_Pad/Eee_...sformer_TF101/

I preordered it today and I'm super excited . I think in fall when I'm back to university I'll definitely get the keyboard and no notebooks , netbooks or anything like that :)


p.s. N900 = Maemo + NITDroid + MeeGo + Tablet = SUPERWIN:eek:

danramos 2011-04-27 03:33

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Heheh... let us know how it works out. I'm severely tempted as well.

ysss 2011-04-27 03:39

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Which store has it in stock atm?
I missed out when it was available on Amazon.. (the mere few minutes it was available).

Bratag 2011-04-27 04:31

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 995918)
Which store has it in stock atm?
I missed out when it was available on Amazon.. (the mere few minutes it was available).

Lack of supply could kill this before it starts to breathe. Its a real shame it sold out almost instantly

debernardis 2011-04-27 04:38

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I tried on at the store. Trying to shoot a photo crashed the device. Plus, no usb on the tablet. I bet Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet is better.

danramos 2011-04-27 04:38

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratag (Post 995930)
Lack of supply could kill this before it starts to breathe. Its a real shame it sold out almost instantly

Because... high demand and low supply.. THAT's what kills a product? :) It did pretty good for the Wii.

skidrock 2011-04-27 09:35

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 995935)
I tried on at the store. Trying to shoot a photo crashed the device. Plus, no usb on the tablet. I bet Lenovo Thinkpad Tablet is better.

But the website claims that tablet has two USB 2.0 ports. Am I looking at a different tablet ?

tissot 2011-04-27 09:44

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skidrock (Post 996052)
But the website claims that tablet has two USB 2.0 ports. Am I looking at a different tablet ?

It probably got the USB ports on the keyboard? Might be wrong here.

Anyways transformer will most probably be my first tablet. After the new update it seems to have gotten solid reviews, only 3.0 tablet with ISP screen, all the ports, battery life and surprisingly cheap compared to other high profile 3.0 tablets for what if offers.
Only other option is the newer version of tab 10.1 with memory card slot, but both transformer and 10.1 should arrive here somewhere around June so i'll wait till that to make my final decision.

Great 10 min video of the tablet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvxth_Sxfps

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-04-27 12:34

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Damn that Eee Pad Transformer looks good! Here is the second part to the video that tissot linked:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEQqXi-3NpU

geneven 2011-04-27 12:46

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I haven't canceled my Amazon order yet; if they get supplies soon, I'll go for it. I think the release was kind of a fake; I don't think significant supplies have actually reached the US. I still wonder if the horrible Japan situation has somehow caused the delay. But it appears to have a significant crowd waiting for it. When there's that big of a commotion, you know that there will be future addons to perhaps solve the USB problem and bring about other enhancements.

Speaking of addons, does anyone have opinions about the various cases and other addons that are waiting to be bought?

ysss 2011-04-27 12:52

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 995936)
Because... high demand and low supply.. THAT's what kills a product? :) It did pretty good for the Wii.

Of course it's some sort of indication that supply > demand...

But if said company does not have enough product to sell at the right time, they may miss out some of the sales too (especially impulse buyers, etc).

I'm sure a permanent short supply isn't the case, being that ASUS is a gigantic portable electronic manufacturer... but they better strike the iron while its hot... or something.

JohnLF 2011-04-27 12:55

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
There are 2 USB ports on the keyboard, none on the tablet. Looks great, just need some money now...

alfmar 2011-04-27 13:10

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Funny enough, the promotional video shows a teen guy who makes girls say "w00t" because the tablet has a secondary battery and a touchscreen game. That's what we call "originality" ;)

Rebski 2011-04-27 13:27

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 996175)
Of course it's some sort of indication that supply > demand...

But if said company does not have enough product to sell at the right time, they may miss out some of the sales too (especially impulse buyers, etc).

I'm sure a permanent short supply isn't the case, being that ASUS is a gigantic portable electronic manufacturer... but they better strike the iron while its hot... or something.

The story is that they are holding back until Honeycomb is finished and applications are available.

Sorry I don't have the link to the original article but it is referenced here, and mention made to Phandroid
http://androidcommunity.com/honeycom...oems-20110416/

cfh11 2011-04-27 14:05

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 996175)
Of course it's some sort of indication that supply < demand

Corrected for you.

daperl 2011-04-27 14:35

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnLF (Post 996178)
There are 2 USB ports on the keyboard, none on the tablet. Looks great, just need some money now...

Yes, none on the tablet, but there is nothing like a proprietary USB cable. From the anandtech review:

Quote:

ASUS ships the Eee Pad with a 40-pin ASUS dock to USB cable as well as a USB to AC adapter for wall charging.
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/...r/_DSC3850.jpg

I would find it hard to believe that with a female-to-female adapter that you couldn't mount a flash drive.

HellFlyer 2011-04-27 16:51

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I ordered it in Canada Computers but it wont arrive for a week or two :(

As for the software glitches ASUS said they fixed majority of them in the final product. Besides being an N900 owner I kinda willing to accept those issues :D hehe unlike Nokia and Maemo , ASUS and Google will support Eee Pad and Android for a long time ;)

Check out Anand's review posted by daperl Its really comprehensive and unbiased

debernardis 2011-04-27 16:55

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daperl (Post 996247)
Yes, none on the tablet, but there is nothing like a proprietary USB cable.
[...]
I would find it hard to believe that with a female-to-female adapter that you couldn't mount a flash drive.

Well, if you look to the Galaxy Tab, that is the previous new-kid-on-the-block, it also has an ominous proprietary connector, which ends in male usb. You put on a female-to-female connector, hook an usb stick...
...and nothing gets mounted.
Afaik no xda-developer has yet made it work.
So, let's hope the Transformer can do it, but I wouldn't bet it's either out-of-the-box or a quick thing to get.

daperl 2011-04-27 17:49

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by debernardis (Post 996321)
Well, if you look to the Galaxy Tab, that is the previous new-kid-on-the-block, it also has an ominous proprietary connector, which ends in male usb. You put on a female-to-female connector, hook an usb stick...
...and nothing gets mounted.
Afaik no xda-developer has yet made it work.
So, let's hope the Transformer can do it, but I wouldn't bet it's either out-of-the-box or a quick thing to get.

From the review:

Quote:

The dock also adds two USB ports which you can use for USB sticks or external storage and a SD card slot.
I'm guessing out-of-the box it will work.

Transformer: ASUS + Honeycomb
Galaxy Tab: Samsung + Froyo?

Slightly different animals.

cfh11 2011-04-27 18:02

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
One thing they got right (where the Atrix failed miserably) is the pricing of the docking station. $399 USD + $199 is much better than $499 + $499.

Alfred 2011-04-27 18:39

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I think i just fell in love with this thing.
I actually was thinking of getting iPad 2 or 3(whenever it gets released), but now i have definetely changed my mind.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-04-27 19:05

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Something tells me that the Eee Pad Transformer is going to have a very, very large development community. This is a great characteristic, and just one more reason to get this device.

I'm also hoping that Asus sticks to its PC heritage and keeps the bootloader unlocked for the freedom to install what you want on the hardware.

Bratag 2011-04-27 19:10

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 995936)
Because... high demand and low supply.. THAT's what kills a product? :) It did pretty good for the Wii.

Granted. But nothing annoys people more than wanting a new toy and being unable to get it. The WII was on sale at may locations and sold out hundreds of thousands of units over several weeks. I have seen this on one site and it sold out in minutes with no word on when the next production run will be. Could be weeks/months and technology marches on.

tissot 2011-04-27 19:14

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 996373)
Something tells me that the Eee Pad Transformer is going to have a very, very large development community. This is a great characteristic, and just one more reason to get this device.

Yep.
First i was not really interested about this because i just saw poorly made second rank 3.0 tablet with great idea that i really want, but no doubt done bad. It being Asus i maybe should have looked second time but my eyes where already focused to the tab 10.1.

But just seeing that video i linked here earlier made me think very differently. HW wise they have actually done amazing job and actually given some thought to the keyboard dock rather than it just being sloppy afterthought.

People over at xda demanded own section for transformer and it's already very very active. I got good feeling like you that this might just be on the top 2 with 10.1 as far as the community goes.

HellFlyer 2011-04-28 02:26

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Well in Canada its not that popular and since they already ordered some from the US warehouse , I'm sure I will get it two weeks :)

If that's the case the value of this product goes even higher. Windows 8 will support ARM CPUs I dont see any reason not run it on this thing

As for the docking station afaik its $150 not $200 :)

benlau 2011-04-28 02:39

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I am pretty interested with the Eee transformer (now I have no interest for Atrix at all).

However, I have few questions. It will be great if somebody got it and able to answer. :)

1) When it is plugged into monitor , what resolution it can be?

2) Can it run in dual screen monitor when plugged into external monitor?

3) If I plugged into the netbook dock . Them connected to external monitor and usb keyboard , can I fold it ?

Thanks.

H3llb0und 2011-04-28 05:16

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Ordered this yesterday.

ASUS Eee Pad Transformer TF101 10.1" 16GB Android 3.0 Tablet PC w / Keyboard Docking Station = US$548.00 or AU$512.32

ETA for delivery to comgateway.com is May 4, or May 13... then 3-5 days to get to Sydney.

The waiting game starts now for me... but for this price I'm happy to wait.

By the way, my card got charged last night.

H3llb0und 2011-04-28 05:19

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
XDA thread with some impressions from people that already have the Transformer in the US.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1053217

geneven 2011-04-28 05:22

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
When the Transformer becomes available in the US again for the $399 or $499 price, please post the info on this thread.

H3llb0und 2011-04-28 05:44

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I read on XDA that some people that ordered from amazon are VERY SLOWLY starting to get their orders delivered.

HellFlyer 2011-04-28 19:02

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Got email from customer service ETA 10 business days :(

danramos 2011-04-30 03:20

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by HellFlyer (Post 996539)
Well in Canada its not that popular and since they already ordered some from the US warehouse , I'm sure I will get it two weeks :)

If that's the case the value of this product goes even higher. Windows 8 will support ARM CPUs I dont see any reason not run it on this thing

As for the docking station afaik its $150 not $200 :)

*cough* With Windows, "running" is such a strong word...

RobbieThe1st 2011-04-30 13:51

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I dunno... With a cellphone, ARM makes sense. With a tablet, though, I'd want an Atom, so I could run fullblown applications(including legacy games via Wine). And still have decent battery life.
On top of that, I don't know how you'd run Windows(of any sort) on an ARM proc anyway - It'd lag horribly. Even un-optimized Linux is slow. With a hefty Atom, you might get it running acceptably.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-04-30 20:06

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RobbieThe1st (Post 997819)
I dunno... With a cellphone, ARM makes sense. With a tablet, though, I'd want an Atom, so I could run fullblown applications(including legacy games via Wine). And still have decent battery life.
On top of that, I don't know how you'd run Windows(of any sort) on an ARM proc anyway - It'd lag horribly. Even un-optimized Linux is slow. With a hefty Atom, you might get it running acceptably.

Next years ARM chips (and Qualcomm's next-gen Snapdragons) promise outperform ATOM by an impressive margin, offer 4 cores, and provide characteristics that people love from mobile devices: low cost, fan-less, ultra-thin/light, incredible battery life, and instant sleep/wake. Additionally, the included GPUs are very, very impressive -- capable of stereoscopic 3D in full 1080p.

Of course it needn't be said that software not optimized for these new chips will suffer or not run at all (eg. software optimized for x86 assembly)... But I said it anyway. As I understand it, the debian repos already compiled for ARM v7, so a large amount of Linux OSS software is available now.

I'm not a terrible fan of Atom, but I would agree that I'd at the very least want this level of performance to run traditional linux desktop setups. I have full faith that next-gen ARM will surprise many folk.

*the_newbie* 2011-05-01 00:46

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
The Transformer looks soooo good.

What OSes could be potentiality forced into this thing?

Sorry in advance if this is a bad question...

Kangal 2011-05-01 01:23

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 997971)
Next years ARM chips (and Qualcomm's next-gen Snapdragons) promise outperform ATOM by an impressive margin, offer 4 cores, and provide characteristics that people love from mobile devices: low cost, fan-less, ultra-thin/light, incredible battery life, and instant sleep/wake. Additionally, the included GPUs are very, very impressive -- capable of stereoscopic 3D in full 1080p.

Of course it needn't be said that software not optimized for these new chips will suffer or not run at all (eg. software optimized for x86 assembly)... But I said it anyway. As I understand it, the debian repos already compiled for ARM v7, so a large amount of Linux OSS software is available now.

I'm not a terrible fan of Atom, but I would agree that I'd at the very least want this level of performance to run traditional linux desktop setups. I have full faith that next-gen ARM will surprise many folk.

This is the reason why most of us anticipated MeeGo.
Full-blown Linux + Powerful GUI (Qt) + Multi-Architecture-Cross-Compatability + A New, Fresh, Clean start + Support for millions of legacy code (just needs porting).

But my dreams are shattered, and probably the other 90% of MeeGo-fans... which is why we must just wait for a much better refined Ubuntu-on-ARM,
or a much refined Android (perhaps port QML to it?),
or wait for Windows NEXT (aka Win8).

geneven 2011-05-01 01:39

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 998072)
This is the reason why most of us anticipated MeeGo.
Full-blown Linux + Powerful GUI (Qt) + Multi-Architecture-Cross-Compatability + A New, Fresh, Clean start + Support for millions of legacy code (just needs porting).

But my dreams are shattered, and probably the other 90% of MeeGo-fans... which is why we must just wait for a much better refined Ubuntu-on-ARM,
or a much refined Android (perhaps port QML to it?),
or wait for Windows NEXT (aka Win8).

I never really trusted Nokia on the Meego issue. My hope is still that someone will come out of nowhere with what we want. Yes, Ubuntu on ARM or whatever. Though I hope my Transformer will keep me happy for awhile, unless I decide to buy a laptop instead.

gerbick 2011-05-01 02:13

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Had a few hours with one almost a week back. Seriously... this is a nice tablet. I'm using the MyWater.apk live wallpaper for my background on my Xoom, as well as the Weather widget from the Asus Transformer.

I'm not a fan of the backing (felt cheap); but everything else is on point with this tablet.

Now... if only I can find a damn video player that can play *.divx files and I'll be happy.

wmarone 2011-05-01 06:34

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by *the_newbie* (Post 998064)
Does what OSs could be potentiality forced into this thing?

Android only, probably. Maybe MeeGo, if the kernel ASUS used is new enough. The way Google, and as a result most hardware vendors, work with the kernel lends poorly to allowing future kernels work on the same hardware. Then you're followed by the monster that is graphics drivers, and Nvidia currently doesn't support MeeGo, only older Xorg builds for Ubuntu and Android.

Similar difficulties lie in wait for Windows whatever on ARM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 998072)
This is the reason why most of us anticipated MeeGo.

And still do. Last I checked the project hadn't gone anywhere.

Quote:

But my dreams are shattered, and probably the other 90% of MeeGo-fans...
Why would they be? Nokia is (mostly) gone, and after seeing their mismanagement drive the company into the ground (and I consider their current direction mismanagement) it's probably a good thing they're (mostly) gone.

Quote:

which is why we must just wait for a much better refined Ubuntu-on-ARM, or a much refined Android (perhaps port QML to it?), or wait for Windows NEXT (aka Win8).
Or buy the Transformer and start getting on ASUS's case to work with people and releasing a MeeGo build of the Tegra 2 drivers and a proper hardware port to the 2.6.37 kernel (if you can get that far without Android-isms, it might be good enough to go mainline, where drivers should be.)

Kangal 2011-05-01 12:04

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wmarone (Post 998129)
Or buy the Transformer and start getting on ASUS's case to work with people and releasing a MeeGo build of the Tegra 2 drivers and a proper hardware port to the 2.6.37 kernel (if you can get that far without Android-isms, it might be good enough to go mainline, where drivers should be.)


ASUS will never release a MeeGo build for the Transformer.
Because they would potentially have to pay their coders for work for an investment with no return, they aren't that fan friendly.

At best we'll see ASUS will release their Android source code, a CM7 is built (bare-bones Android), a quick and decent (dontholdyourbreath) port of Ubuntu, and by using the resources between the three a beta-port of MeeGo could be made.

In fact, I think it would much better if someone ports QML to 2.3, then it'll be half-decent.


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