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*the_newbie* 2011-05-01 22:43

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I know this isn't a dream thread, but my perfect device right now, would be a ASUS Eee Pad Transformer like device that could multi-boot Meego, Honeycomb, Chrome OS, And if its any good the new Windows OS when it comes out. Oh, and I still really want an infrared transmitter. Damn useful that is.

geneven 2011-05-02 08:08

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
To my surprise, I just discovered mine is going to be delivered ... today!

danramos 2011-05-02 19:51

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 998085)
Had a few hours with one almost a week back. Seriously... this is a nice tablet. I'm using the MyWater.apk live wallpaper for my background on my Xoom, as well as the Weather widget from the Asus Transformer.

I'm not a fan of the backing (felt cheap); but everything else is on point with this tablet.

Now... if only I can find a damn video player that can play *.divx files and I'll be happy.

Clap-clap! Done!
https://ssl.gstatic.com/android/mark...d571c05338afc6

geneven 2011-05-02 20:38

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
BTW: Engadget mentioned that you can get the eee pad for I think $360 at Target. But you have to pay state tax and will have to wait a week or two to actually receive it.

Correction: Not Engadget but Liliputing, and you also have to pay shipping.

liliputing.com/2011/05/target-offering-the-asus-eee-pad-transformer-for-360.html

geneven 2011-05-03 02:29

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I did get my EEE Pad today, from Amazon, and it was quite an adjustment. You know, the N900 is so fast and straightforward -- everything just works.

For awhile I was stuck with a blank screen and couldn't figure out how to do anything. But I slowly started to figure things out. I think I'll hold on to my opinions for a few days while I learn more. Right now I'm charging it.

H3llb0und 2011-05-03 02:43

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Check this out:

ASUS Eee Pad Transformer vs iPad 2 - Product Tour NCIX Tech Tips
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rm8NQAib-A

"It started up as an ipad vs asus pad video. By the end, the ipad had run away and hidden itself."

H3llb0und 2011-05-03 03:26

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 999143)
I did get my EEE Pad today, from Amazon, and it was quite an adjustment. You know, the N900 is so fast and straightforward -- everything just works.

For awhile I was stuck with a blank screen and couldn't figure out how to do anything. But I slowly started to figure things out. I think I'll hold on to my opinions for a few days while I learn more. Right now I'm charging it.

When did you place your order?

Check out the video I posted, and check other hands-on videos too, it might help you to figure out some of the "kinks" of Honeycomb.

The main thing I miss on my DHD from my lost N900 is the ability to view every application I have open on one screen... proper multitasking or task switching.

buurmas 2011-05-03 04:04

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
How does it handle hulu.com? Is it sluggish (e.g., Could use it, but painful &/or requires great patience) or slick (e.g., Could use it on a regular basis without pulling out hair)?

How about medici.tv (sorry, I'm a classical music fan)?

How about Google Docs -- can you see yourself viewing, editing & creating content on a semi-regular basis without gnashing of teeth?

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-03 12:20

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I just had a glimpse of the future, and I can totally imagine Apple including a keyboard accessory on its device, similar to this implementation.

Kangal 2011-05-03 13:12

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 999402)
I just had a glimpse of the future, and I can totally imagine Apple including a keyboard accessory on its device, similar to this implementation.

What of the Macbook Air??

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-03 14:30

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 999433)
What of the Macbook Air??

No, just an iPad keyboard attachment. It may be similar to the Macbook Air in stature, but not in UI/functionality...

geneven 2011-05-03 15:02

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 999155)
When did you place your order?

Check out the video I posted, and check other hands-on videos too, it might help you to figure out some of the "kinks" of Honeycomb.

The main thing I miss on my DHD from my lost N900 is the ability to view every application I have open on one screen... proper multitasking or task switching.

I logged into Amazon the night sales started, which I guess was April 26. It was about half-past midnight. I discovered not only had they been selling it, it was sold out already. But I went ahead and preordered, not expecting to get anything for a few weeks. Instead, I got mine very quickly.

I'm glad I had some previous experience with Nitdroid -- it gave me a few clues what to expect.

I'll follow your advice and watch some videos, thanks.

So far, the more experience I have with Android, the more I appreciate my N900.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-03 16:57

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 999477)
So far, the more experience I have with Android, the more I appreciate my N900.

I would love to hear a comparison, if you wouldn't mind!

There's always the ability to install Debian as well, to get back some of that Posix experience that you lost moving over. I'm guessing it should play somewhat comfortably on the Tegra 2 @ 1280x800, but with a slow refresh.

buurmas 2011-05-03 17:20

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Yeah, I think Apple's obsession with Keep It Simple Stupid makes the keyboard accessory a non-slam-dunk. They may think, "If the iPad comes with a keyboard accessory, then perhaps some lazy developers won't make their apps completely finger-friendly. And if we add a keyboard, some developers will have apps that aren't keyboard-friendly and some customers might have a less-than-stellar experience. So wouldn't we be saying by including a keyboard that developers have to make their apps finger-friendly AND keyboard-friendly? Oh my... oh my... I think my brain is about to explode!" :eek:

Perhaps I'm overstating it, but remember that there is a reason why the iOS devices still do not come with a stylus. ;)

geneven 2011-05-03 17:35

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 999521)
I would love to hear a comparison, if you wouldn't mind!

There's always the ability to install Debian as well, to get back some of that Posix experience that you lost moving over. I'm guessing it should play somewhat comfortably on the Tegra 2 @ 1280x800, but with a slow refresh.

One always tends to prefer what one is familiar with to the new and unknown. Right now, I have mostly been charging. I like my system with the N900, which is to charge in an external charger and then replace the battery with a fresh one when it gets low. The disadvantage of having to plug the device in to charge it is particularly noticeable with the EEE Pad Transformer, since its electrical cord is a) proprietary and b) short. The docs (which are incredibly brief and don't cover things I would like to know, like how I know it's chargingJ say you need to charge the battery for 8 hours when you first get it, and I think that might be an underestimate. The shortness of the charging cord means if you want to play with it while it is charging, you are forced to stay awkwardly close to the outlet. The proprietary nature of the charging means you can't replace the cord with a longer one.

Most of the videos I've seen so far pay almost no attention to charging, because they have the keyboard, which is not yet available in the US the last I heard (and I don't have a spare $150 at the moment). It appears that the keyboard will solve most charging problems.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-03 18:35

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 999538)
One always tends to prefer what one is familiar with to the new and unknown. Right now, I have mostly been charging. I like my system with the N900, which is to charge in an external charger and then replace the battery with a fresh one when it gets low. The disadvantage of having to plug the device in to charge it is particularly noticeable with the EEE Pad Transformer, since its electrical cord is a) proprietary and b) short. The docs (which are incredibly brief and don't cover things I would like to know, like how I know it's chargingJ say you need to charge the battery for 8 hours when you first get it, and I think that might be an underestimate. The shortness of the charging cord means if you want to play with it while it is charging, you are forced to stay awkwardly close to the outlet. The proprietary nature of the charging means you can't replace the cord with a longer one.

Most of the videos I've seen so far pay almost no attention to charging, because they have the keyboard, which is not yet available in the US the last I heard (and I don't have a spare $150 at the moment). It appears that the keyboard will solve most charging problems.

Very interesting.. I was totally expecting something like vi and config files. :p

I would like to see companies taking PDMI more seriously. As I understand it, it is open and has the power provisions to handle the an object as hungry as a tablet. It also has other notable features worthy of serious consideration, instead of the DIY movement currently underway with manufacturers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI

Bundyo 2011-05-03 20:41

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Ouch, on top you have a 3D accelerated flashy desktop, but on the back its the same unusable ******** you have in Android 3-... Thanks, I'll pass.

Capt'n Corrupt 2011-05-03 20:46

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bundyo (Post 999639)
Ouch, on top you have a 3D accelerated flashy desktop, but on the back its the same unusable ******** you have in Android 3-... Thanks, I'll pass.

I think 'unusable ********' is a bit over the top...

cheve 2011-05-03 21:28

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Capt'n Corrupt (Post 999579)
Very interesting.. I was totally expecting something like vi and config files. :p

I would like to see companies taking PDMI more seriously. As I understand it, it is open and has the power provisions to handle the an object as hungry as a tablet. It also has other notable features worthy of serious consideration, instead of the DIY movement currently underway with manufacturers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI

As per the wiki, this "standard" was created under the chairmanship of MS....after knowing what MS did for the ISO open document standard; I would not trust any "standard" by MS.

cheers,

danramos 2011-05-03 21:37

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buurmas (Post 999165)
How does it handle hulu.com? Is it sluggish (e.g., Could use it, but painful &/or requires great patience) or slick (e.g., Could use it on a regular basis without pulling out hair)?

How about medici.tv (sorry, I'm a classical music fan)?

How about Google Docs -- can you see yourself viewing, editing & creating content on a semi-regular basis without gnashing of teeth?

I can't see why Hulu would work here--HULU is blocking whole platforms at a time (Android, iOS, Playbook, etc.), so even though this now a laptop form-factor, Hulu would still be blocked.

FURTHER urging the need to ask, "Why differentiate? What, really, is the difference between a series of 1's and 0's on a desktop computer, a laptop, a tablet or a mobile device or anything else for that matter?" The people running Hulu (or forcing their hand, or both) appear to be myopic technology Luddites or idiots.

j.s 2011-05-03 22:23

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 999665)
FURTHER urging the need to ask, "Why differentiate? What, really, is the difference between a series of 1's and 0's on a desktop computer, a laptop, a tablet or a mobile device or anything else for that matter?" The people running Hulu (or forcing their hand, or both) appear to be myopic technology Luddites or idiots.

Why would you expect them to be any different than the people running the cable companies, the telephone companies, the music companies, or the movie companies?

geneven 2011-05-04 00:28

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buurmas (Post 999165)
How does it handle hulu.com? Is it sluggish (e.g., Could use it, but painful &/or requires great patience) or slick (e.g., Could use ira. progher otndt on a regular basis without pulling out hair)?

How about medici.tv (sorry, I'm a classical music fan)?

How about Google Docs -- can you see yourself viewing, editing & creating content on a semi-regular basis without gnashing of teeth?

Ignoring your other questions because I just don't know yet, I think I can answer the Google Docs one. As a professional editor, I can see myself manipulating text a lot as long as I had the keyboard and wasn't doing a lot of word copying and pasting from other programs. Maybe my opinion will change, but right now I don't experience the snappy copy and pasting I even get on my N900 between FBReader and HiveMind and other programs.

gerbick 2011-05-04 01:40

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 999014)

Already use MoboPlayer. It no play the *.divx files.

Correction: It will not autoplay them, nor add them to the playlist, but they will play (not well though)

2nd Correction: You've gotta be ****ing kidding me. Adding it to the filetypes that MoboPlayer should scan for will allow it to be added to the playlist finally.

Still grainy as hell as compared to my (dare I say it) iPad. But hell... it works... sorta.

danramos 2011-05-04 09:41

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 999762)
Already use MoboPlayer. It no play the *.divx files.

Correction: It will not autoplay them, nor add them to the playlist, but they will play (not well though)

2nd Correction: You've gotta be ****ing kidding me. Adding it to the filetypes that MoboPlayer should scan for will allow it to be added to the playlist finally.

Still grainy as hell as compared to my (dare I say it) iPad. But hell... it works... sorta.

Have you tried downloading MoboPlayer Codec ARMV7VFP3 for your Motorola Xoom? It might improve things, from what I'm reading.

geneven 2011-05-04 14:28

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
I am returning my EEE Pad Transformer to Amazon today. despite all the hours I spent on charging, I never got it above 40 percent. There was either something wrong with it or with me, and I don't care which.

Also, I never got copying and pasting to work efficiently. On my N900 I have it down really well. I mark something in FBReader then Ctrl C copies it. I hit Ctrl Bksp and then pick the window I'm copying to and Ctrl V puts it somewhere.

On the Transformer I never figured out how to copy and paste at all from Kindle for Android. (Photos from Kindle books were a million times nicer than on the Kindle, which didn't surprise me.)

Overall, I was disillusioned with my Android-fling.
Maybe I'll think again about the Color Nook or about an IdeaPad or something. I didn't miss multitasking much. I don't know...

buurmas 2011-05-04 18:25

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Wow, now you've got me interested about the copy and paste thing. The articles I Googled were actually heralding Honeycomb's copy and paste as being an improvement over Gingerbread.

From Techcrunch:

Quote:

Things are much better in Honeycomb: when you highlight text, the Action Bar changes from its current options to let you Cut, Copy, Paste, or Select All..
But maybe that doesn't work in the Kindle app. About the Kindle app specifically, pre-Honeycomb:

Quote:

1. Begin to highlight the sentence(s) you want to reference in your note by pressing down the 5-way button where you want to begin the copy.

2. 5-way down, and at the last line to be excerpted, 5-way right, to the end of the referenced passage. Do NOT press the 5-way button down to end the highlight.

3. Instead, press the space bar. That'll bring up a search field.

4. Your now-highlighted passage is pasted into the search bar.

5. 5-way to the right, through several options, until you reach "note"

6. Press down the 5-way button on that, and you'll see the passage entered automatically into a Note box. You can now add to that Note by typing an entry.
What could be easier? :eek:

A more recent article talks about using the "Your Highlights" feature:
http://www.mediabistro.com/galleycat...hlights_b22950

lemmyslender 2011-05-04 18:50

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
@geneven

I use moon+ reader, it supports multiple formats. Very easy, long tap on a word, the word is highlighted, little bars on either end (to move and highlight more), tap on copy from the pop'd up menu. Change to where-ever I want to paste, long tap, and paste.

Granted this is android 2.2 froyo. Also on my Huawei S7 tablet, the bar at the top has a button to bring up open tasks, making it very easy to switch between tasks. On my Vibrant, long tap on the home key brings up a similar menu.

Don't judge the whole based on one flakey app.

geneven 2011-05-04 19:17

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Yes, thanks for the comments. After failing to get the thing charged for so long I had a violent revulsion to the whole thing that I knew wasn't fair...

H3llb0und 2011-05-05 03:43

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by geneven (Post 999538)
The disadvantage of having to plug the device in to charge it is particularly noticeable with the EEE Pad Transformer, since its electrical cord is a) proprietary and b) short. The docs (which are incredibly brief and don't cover things I would like to know, like how I know it's chargingJ say you need to charge the battery for 8 hours when you first get it, and I think that might be an underestimate. The shortness of the charging cord means if you want to play with it while it is charging, you are forced to stay awkwardly close to the outlet. The proprietary nature of the charging means you can't replace the cord with a longer one.

Most of the videos I've seen so far pay almost no attention to charging, because they have the keyboard, which is not yet available in the US the last I heard (and I don't have a spare $150 at the moment). It appears that the keyboard will solve most charging problems.

To extend the cord get an USB 3.0 cable as it has extra pins and those pins are used to charge at a higher voltage. It will charge with the USB 2.0... But, VERY SLOWLY.

gerbick 2011-05-05 04:06

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by danramos (Post 999904)
Have you tried downloading MoboPlayer Codec ARMV7VFP3 for your Motorola Xoom? It might improve things, from what I'm reading.

It is forced to download upon install, so I have the proper version of the codecs.

cheve 2011-05-08 03:21

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
any idea of whether it needs additional driver to work with USB DVD drive?

danramos 2011-05-09 07:22

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cheve (Post 1001957)
any idea of whether it needs additional driver to work with USB DVD drive?

I have a USB DVD drive. If I ever get a Transformer, I'll let you know. I'm teetering on whether or not I want one.

H3llb0und 2011-05-10 03:25

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
$499 iPad 2 vs $399 ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
http://www.gizmocrunch.com/computing...ad-transformer

He does omit some great advantages that the Transformer has over the iPad2, like that it has a GPS.

But... coming from a confessed iFanboy this sounds like a WIN for the Transformer. :D

H3llb0und 2011-05-28 13:57

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Honeycomb 3.1 comes to the Eee Pad Transformer
http://hothardware.com/News/Android-...d-Transformer/

And...
Transformer overclocked to 1.6GHz 1.7GHz soon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1095269

H3llb0und 2011-05-31 23:07

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Your Amazon.com order has Shipped
Delivery Estimate: June 6, 2011

Ordered the 16GB May 30 :D

zylor 2011-05-31 23:20

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 1019799)
Your Amazon.com order has Shipped
Delivery Estimate: June 6, 2011

Ordered the 16GB May 30 :D

for how much?

H3llb0und 2011-06-01 01:15

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zylor (Post 1019808)
for how much?

AU$434.27 with Priority International Courier to Sydney

They are selling the 16GB in AU for AU$599 :eek:
So this is a very good price

Kangal 2011-06-01 05:21

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by H3llb0und (Post 1019844)
AU$434.27 with Priority International Courier to Sydney

They are selling the 16GB in AU for AU$599 :eek:
So this is a very good price

That's nice, are you considering to get the keydock?

Last question; sell it to me for $450?? I can pick up.






(lol)

H3llb0und 2011-06-01 23:19

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kangal (Post 1019908)
That's nice, are you considering to get the keydock?

Last question; sell it to me for $450?? I can pick up.






(lol)

I also have an order for the Transformer + Keyboard Dock from EXcaliberPC AU$513 + shipping, but it will only arrive mid/late June.
( in AU it's AU$499 + AU$180 for the dock :eek: )

If you are serious, I am going to sell one of them once I have both in my hands. For the insane prices here in AU, I will sell it in a matter of minutes.
Not looking to make a profit, just cover my expenses.

H3llb0und 2011-06-06 10:20

Re: ASUS Eee Pad Transformer
 
Received my Transformer this afternoon at the office, so I didn't have much time to play around with it. Only installed and updated some apps.

I arrived home 2h ago, and only used it for 10 min...

My GF took over the Transformer, lying down on our huge double lovesac... BIG mistake handing it to her :mad:

I have been installing some HC optimized apps on it using my desktop directly from the market :D

Now waiting for her to get tired of browsing for restaurants and stuff...


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