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bandora 2011-05-17 18:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Now all it needs is commercial app support! I don't care if it doesn't get supported by Nokia, I just want to have many great apps!

cfh11 2011-05-17 18:28

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blipnl (Post 1008429)
It shows some nice hints like the 12Mpix camera, if anyone's interested I could make pics out of it for a gallery

someone beat you to it

http://thehandheldblog.com/2011/05/1...ndheld+Blog%29

vi_ 2011-05-17 18:28

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
WTF is an app?

Ayle 2011-05-17 18:28

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
http://forum.i3d.net/attachments/tea...hots-fuuuu.jpg
I was just about to pull the trigger on either a Galaxy S2 or an Optimus 3D, now I'm back into waiting mode argh! I could watch that teaser all day long...

mikecomputing 2011-05-17 18:37

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 1008415)
Well, I for one will not be an early adopter. I do love its looks, and what it promises, but I'll wait for the first user reviews, the first firmware-update, and till its price drops a bit (probably when the wp7 series will come out). I want to know what the hardware is capable of, how hackable the OS is, wait till a bunch of developers start to make use of the new stuff and let the platform mature a bit. This time around I want no breaking USB ports, no white spots on the TFT, no surprises.

Price drop yes maybe, but not because of WP7 cause who of those Meego/Maemo users will ever buy Microsoft crap?

Not me atleast.. Different userbase imho.

crabsody 2011-05-17 18:40

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Why buy it when I know that Nokia has abandoned Meego for Windows? When I know that it has no future? Yes I love my N900. For sure N9 will be great but....

Acidspunk 2011-05-17 18:51

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
This looks great, but let's not pretend it will get any support from Nokia or third party devs. I'd rather wait for a year or so 'till it has a community properly supporting it like the N900 has. It'll be a lot cheaper by then too. Besides, I want to see if it really is the successor to the N900 both in terms of hardware, software and community support.

chrisp7 2011-05-17 18:53

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mece (Post 1008413)
another thing, as soon as sdk and repos are out we need to start recompiling maemo5 apps so we have stuff to install :)

*about to burst with excitement*

Someone get google maps on that thing!

tswindell 2011-05-17 18:56

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 1008460)
Someone get google maps on that thing!

Why google maps? What's so great about google maps?

cjp 2011-05-17 18:57

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
This just looks too Symbian for me. If this is really Harmattan... I really have a long way to go to accept it.

I thought when Marko Ahtisaari talked about new OS UI paradigms, I thought WP7 was going to be a soul-sister in design language and innovation. Peter Skillman was hired by Nokia and he soon went on to say he hates "Clutter, clutter, clutter.", which S^3 was said to be the prime example of. The leaked UI powerpoint thing however unlikely to be ever implemented played on the dark and cool colours of Maemo5, just took it to the next level.

Now it looks like Android. I mean the platform that's version releases are named after pastries. Pastries are cool for overweight engineers that find Stephen King and cardboard partyplates with red, yellow and blue as high art. And its visible in how completely uninteresting the UI on Android is.

I thought Nokia's MeeGo was going to start something new or just be very different. Just like the N900. What's happened here?

If this is it, then my God, was it dumbed down. Or perhaps my expectations were raised too high, but I think for good reason.

Heavens above, imagine someone sees you using this in the street and asks you if its Symbian! Nightmare! :S

chrisp7 2011-05-17 19:00

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 1008464)
Why google maps? What's so great about google maps?

..it works.
Ovi maps on N900 was a)slow b)had the most dire search function I have ever used c) google maps has an amazing directory/database/user generated info d) google maps looks better

afaq 2011-05-17 19:00

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Paused the video where you see multiple windows open and if you notice the user swipes his hand to the right of the screen and they come up. This reminds me of how microB behaves. So that screen isn't the multi tasking window but perhaps the different browser windows open?

A little disappointed that we couldn't see multi tasking being demonstrated.

tissot 2011-05-17 19:01

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Only thing i can see similar to Symbian are the icons? Or do the icons make the UI? Harmattan UI and Symbian where meant to live together so it's not much of a surprise that the icons are very similar and to some of us who listen certain rumor sources like bible, almost known. ;D
So far looking better than i expected honestly. That multitasking looks perfect imo and that you bring it by swiping from left to right.


Just holding my breath for certain specs like HDMI out etc.

tswindell 2011-05-17 19:03

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 1008465)
Heavens above, imagine someone sees you using this in the street and asks you if its Symbian! Nightmare! :S

People ask me that when I'm using my N900, don't see your point, those that care know, those that don't (normal people) don't care and are just trying to sound clever, or get a closer look at the latest shiny.

P1, "Oooo, is that the new Nokia" ...
ME, "No, it's the same one I've had for well over a year that you've seen me use pretty much daily." (My N900)

bugelrex 2011-05-17 19:09

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 1008464)
Why google maps? What's so great about google maps?

It works.. 99% of the time it finds places I search for. And its blazing fast (UI and response). Its the shiny example of an app done right

OVI Maps is only good for offline maps, god help me if I need to 'find a business' with it (and I'm talking about inside Manhattan for god sake!)

NvyUs 2011-05-17 19:13

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Who is going to the MeeGo conference? you might need a empty Pocket that's all I'm saying ;););););)

richwhite 2011-05-17 19:15

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bugelrex (Post 1008479)
It works.. 99% of the time it finds places I search for. And its blazing fast (UI and response). Its the shiny example of an app done right

OVI Maps is only good for offline maps, god help me if I need to 'find a business' with it (and I'm talking about inside Manhattan for god sake!)

On N900 sure, but Ovi Maps 3 on Symbian is far better. My fiancee has the N8 and she put google maps on there but never uses it, prefers Ovi - and she's someone who uses google maps all the time on the iphone

cjp 2011-05-17 19:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Well icons is the only thing we've seen so I can't really comment on whether icons make the UI in this case.

But like I said, I think I had reason to believe we'd be moving away from widget filled desktops and iconlists of apps. These are not the entire UI, but I do feel it tells us something about the way the UI functions overall. In WP7 they thought of something new in place of this two-part UI (desktop & icon list). I thought this was going to be something radically different. Maybe I just took Ahtisaari too seriously. :F

Donc 2011-05-17 19:17

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
To me it looks like the phone you will see in this Real Steel movie official trailer. Launch with the movie maybe ??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S8a1...layer_embedded
pause at 0:15

-edit-
Compare menubar icons:

N9 Teaser:
http://nokiagadgets.com/?p=916
Real Steel movie trailer:
http://mynokiablog.com/2011/05/12/fu...reen-nokia-n9/

shmerl 2011-05-17 19:18

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisp7 (Post 1008460)
Someone get google maps on that thing!

Firefox can do it.

cjp 2011-05-17 19:20

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 1008471)
People ask me that when I'm using my N900, don't see your point, those that care know, those that don't (normal people) don't care and are just trying to sound clever, or get a closer look at the latest shiny.

That was more a joke than anything too serious. Although I love it when people think my phone's "weird" and that's pretty much the only reaction I get.

klikklak 2011-05-17 19:24

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 1008465)
Now it looks like Android. I mean the platform that's version releases are named after pastries. Pastries are cool for overweight engineers that find Stephen King and cardboard partyplates with red, yellow and blue as high art.

Hahah, lol, this made me chuckle.

While it looks neat and all, I've got my eyes on LG for what they come up with. Unless the n950 has an open bootloader and is generally user replaceable OS friendly. (you know, for upgrades to later meegos which nokia will surely forget once they're sold.)

rentze 2011-05-17 19:24

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Aaaaaargh announce the freakin' device, can't wait anymore!!!

AndyNokia232 2011-05-17 19:25

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Usually people sneer and guffaw at the size of my N900 'brick'.

Can't wait to see their faces when I slip out this James Bond style N9 and say, "Oh yes...it's the new Nokia." hehehe

tissot 2011-05-17 19:27

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by afaq (Post 1008469)
Paused the video where you see multiple windows open and if you notice the user swipes his hand to the right of the screen and they come up. This reminds me of how microB behaves. So that screen isn't the multi tasking window but perhaps the different browser windows open?

A little disappointed that we couldn't see multi tasking being demonstrated.

Though he is swiping from the menu, not browser.
There is also a part where he swipes to the left and it opens gallery. Could be that it's something you can assign or opens last app you visited.

Because that would rock.

tswindell 2011-05-17 19:28

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
I just like being fairly unique, and working with and around a (usually) fantastic, warm, friendly and appreciative community. I wonder if developers for other "ecosystems" could say the same thing?

qwazix 2011-05-17 19:29

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
Maybe it's just the wrong date on the device... Maybe it loses the date&time when you remove the battery :)
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kojacker 2011-05-17 19:32

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Just finished watching the teaser vid, and remembered why they call them teaser vids.. you see something just not very much and definitely not enough. Irritating! :rolleyes: I can't really form an opinion to be honest, looking forward to the conference to hear some more :)

The music cuts very abruptly at the end as the singer begins to sing "Jessie's Girl"... just squeaking out the "J.." There must be a longer version (or else the audio might have been added to the video afterwards) as it doesnt fit right, Im assuming whoever Nokia hired would have done a more professional job with the sound.

Well done to pocketnow.com for the scoop :cool:

cjp 2011-05-17 19:34

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by tswindell (Post 1008498)
I just like being fairly unique, and working with and around a (usually) fantastic, warm, friendly and appreciative community. I wonder if developers for other "ecosystems" could say the same thing?

The community has for long been the most addictive part about the N900 experience. And I don't want to be trolling or starting a flamewar with my thoughts on this vid. I just have my reservations about it. It seems different to what I've come to expect!

shady 2011-05-17 19:35

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
the resolution looks pixelated, lower pix density due to larger area and keeping the res 8x4.8 ...

suspect, but again nokia is in bad shape, so its probable.

blipnl 2011-05-17 19:39

N9/N950 image gallery
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by blipnl (Post 1008429)
It shows some nice hints like the 12Mpix camera, if anyone's interested I could make pics out of it for a gallery

I did so anyways, here is a gallery of pictures from the N9 advertisement video to digest. It shows some inteserting hints to debate.

http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/3...peakerc.th.jpg
http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/2...tscroff.th.jpg
http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/259...fcamera.th.jpg
http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3...ericonp.th.jpg
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/5...glimpse.th.jpg
http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/6...compari.th.jpg
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/84/3sidehpjack.th.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/2...daswipe.th.jpg
http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/3...onpress.th.jpg
http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8...nagenda.th.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/177...gee7ish.th.jpg
http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/3...hinness.th.jpg
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/2...broswer.th.jpg
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/5...fczopti.th.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/611...reenkbl.th.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/893...uthinge.th.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/286...ontacts.th.jpg
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5...ossibly.th.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6...lisanet.th.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/1...sphotos.th.jpg
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/3151/...itcher2.th.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/7...ficatio.th.jpg
http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/6...onanna2.th.jpg
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9...ficatio.th.jpg
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/494...ylayout.th.jpg
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/1...handcom.th.jpg
http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/3...wedtran.th.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/4...wedharm.th.jpg
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4655/29photos.th.jpg

If these images are blurry this is either because it was intentionally filmes out of focus, or because of the lack of FPS in the youtube-video. It was viewed in 1080P and screenshots were taken whilse in fullscreen.

Some clues I managed to find:
- Exterior looks like the leaked one if not the same. Slim and aluminum?
- 12MP AF Carl Zeiss optics Tessar 2.8/28
- Front facing camera
- onscreen kayboard layout
- taskswitcher harmattan/meego style and like the leaked iphone5 video :D
- Some more less interesting ones

For the rest well, let's enhance a bit :D or use our rusty detective skills once more..

RogueElement 2011-05-17 19:44

Re: N9/N950 image gallery
 
From Electric Pig website :

12 megapixel camera spotted (0:11)
Skip to 11 seconds in and you’ll get a quick glimpse of the camera sensor on the back of the Nokia N9: it’s a 12MP Carl Zeiss jobbie complete with auto focus. That’s music to our ears and eyes, as it means it should match the Nokia N8 for stunning mobile pics.

Ovi Maps is coming to Meego (0:17)
This was likely filmed before Nokia’s big branding switch this week to drop the “Ovi”, but Nokia’s excellent mapping service is present on the Nokia N9 MeeGo’s menu screens. That should come as no surprise given that it was also present n the Maemo powered Nokia N900, but that lacked turn by turn navigation. Which brings us to the next curiosity:

Ovi Drive (0:44)
Yeah, what the hell is Ovi Drive? It’s possible it could be a cloud storage service, Dropbox style, but the icon appears to suggest road traffic. Perhaps it’s the turn by turn part of Ovi Maps broken out into a separate app, as Google Maps Navigation is on Android.

Card based multitasking (0:24)
As a successor to Maemo, we expected multitasking with panes showing the live state of an app, and that appears to be what you get, as you can see in shots peppered through the clip.

A non-broken onscreen keyboard (0:28)
The Nokia N9 appears to have a slide out QWERTY keyboard akin to the Nokia E7′s, though this has been known about for some time. What’s more of a relief to see is an onscreen QWERTY keyboard that isn’t Symbian’s, whichh we’ve cursed on regular occasion for its grid like layout. Here, the lines are slightly asymmetric, so that they all line up in the centre. Excellent!

LTman 2011-05-17 19:51

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
the first preproduction n900's went around if i am not mistaken at a maemo summit lets keep our finger crossed for a few n9/50 at the approaching meego summit /conference

ndi 2011-05-17 19:57

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
What annoys me is that the UI must be 'shopped in. Nothing Nokia ever produced was that smooth and responsive. Have you seen that baby? Reminds me of N900 commercials where people just drag video over twitter over browser over notes. Yeah. We all know how that goes on a 600 MHz.

Oh well, looks promising (though it is IMO uglier than N900). Though I can't really picture it being that smooth and fast. If it is, I'm all over it.

Also, does it come in black? :P

XenGi 2011-05-17 20:03

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
It looks definitely like MeeGo.
So now we can just guess if it's meego or hamattan with a meego handset like ui ontop of it.
But I'm nearly sure that it is hamattan because nokia doesn't work with meego since they have that silly relationship with ms.

daperl 2011-05-17 20:04

Re: N9 hits FCC???
 
1 Attachment(s)
Well, this confirms that it's a 4-row keyboard. The left-down-right cursor buttons have to be below the up button. And what is that slot on the side? It doesn't look like a micro-USB, and they wouldn't put a micro-SD slot there, and it's too big for a microphone...

So it must be the right speaker!

Attachment 20175

sevla 2011-05-17 20:05

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crabsody (Post 1008448)
Why buy it when I know that Nokia has abandoned Meego for Windows? When I know that it has no future? Yes I love my N900. For sure N9 will be great but....

it actually does have a future. The plan is to get the harmattan code compatible with base meego. That way when meego is updated every 4 months, nokia phones will be able to get those updates..

HELLASISGREECE 2011-05-17 20:07

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
CCSU team, please don't listen to the sirens's song and don't abandon N900!! :)

NvyUs 2011-05-17 20:09

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
This device will never go on sale ask @zehjotkah he said its only for developers, there is second device coming for end users

EDIT: so get your arses to MeeGo Conf b/c thats probably reason why they needed FCC clearance to give them out there to participants in US.

IsaacDFP 2011-05-17 20:16

Re: Nokia N9 Teaser - is this meego or harmattan?
 
Who cares what it is running when we have Gods among us who go under such names as Smoku and Cordia Project!!! Nokia can send us whatever OS/UI they want, we will tweak it!


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