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petur 2011-05-12 13:01

[SOLVED] Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Until recently, location apps that have no valid GPS still showed a nearby location based on the network location.
Right now, the postion they *always* get through is:
Code:

Lat N 50,40000 +/- 160km
Long E 4,40000 +/- 160km

Obviously, this is wrong (it is a location near Charleroi, Belgium - about 100km from where I am)

The only thing I can imagine doing that changed this was:
Code:

- upgrade power kernel v46 to v47
- install CSSU

Does anybody have a clue what's going on, or a hint how to debug this? I already tried supl.nokia.com and supl.google.com - no difference (and yes, I have network location enabled)

Can somebody who has CSSU and power v47 see what location he gets when he disables GPS?

I will need a reliable GPS very soon on a trip and without network location the lock takes much much longer.

SOLUTION: invalid SSL certificate of supl.google.com + phone needs reboot after switching to supl.nokia.com

dimbert 2011-05-12 13:17

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Same thing to me!

I also have installed

- upgrade power kernel v46 to v47
- install CSSU

Please Guys!!! Any Help?

ndi 2011-05-12 18:00

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Yes: I have Power 46 and CSSU and my GPS is fine.

What does GPSJinny say? Do you have satellites?

petur 2011-05-12 18:07

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
The issue is when there is not a GPS lock, when using network positioning. But I have v47....

dimbert 2011-05-12 18:09

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petur (Post 1005052)
The issue is when there is not a GPS lock, when using network positioning. But I have v47....

Exactly... No Network Positioning...

The lack of this feature makes the time to GPS lock endless

dimbert 2011-05-12 18:14

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petur (Post 1004853)
Until recently, location apps that have no valid GPS still showed a nearby location based on the network location.
Right now, the postion they *always* get through is:
Code:

Lat N 50,40000 +/- 160km
Long E 4,40000 +/- 160km

Obviously, this is wrong (it is a location near Charleroi, Belgium - about 100km from where I am)

The only thing I can imagine doing that changed this was:
Code:

- upgrade power kernel v46 to v47
- install CSSU

Does anybody have a clue what's going on, or a hint how to debug this? I already tried supl.nokia.com and supl.google.com - no difference (and yes, I have network location enabled)

Can somebody who has CSSU and power v47 see what location he gets when he disables GPS?

I will need a reliable GPS very soon on a trip and without network location the lock takes much much longer.

Maybe you should change the Thread Title to Cell or network location positioning broken (maybe CSSU bug)...

This gonna make more people see it

ndi 2011-05-12 18:16

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Erm, which is it? Approximate location by network address or a-GPS part that downloads ephemeris and catalogs?

Anyway. They both work for me. My zero-GPS home (reinforced concrete) still shows me to be on the right street. Software (GPSJinny) reports <500m error. Spotme is spot on .. heh. Nokia maps is also quite happy to point within 80 meters of my location, though the dot is dark (no accurate GPS).

Plugin says "Coarse accuracy"

petur 2011-05-12 18:21

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
OK, does that mean we can rule out CSSU? So v47 remains the only one causing it?

ndi 2011-05-12 18:24

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Seems that way. Or a combination of both?

eladts 2011-05-12 18:30

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
As I reported several days ago in another thread, supl.google.com SSL certificate has expired and therefore it won't work correctly with the N900. If you are using supl.google.com you need change the address of the positioning server back to supl.nokia.com. After that, you should restart the phone to make sure the change takes effect.

goo.gl/Ms305

petur 2011-05-12 19:35

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Woha... thanks for that tip. I mean the phone restart one.

I had actually read about the SSL issue, and switched to supl.nokia.com, but I didn't reboot and as you can guess it didn't help.

Just changed it again + rebooted: success!

eladts 2011-05-12 23:59

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petur (Post 1005118)
Woha... thanks for that tip. I mean the phone restart one.

I had actually read about the SSL issue, and switched to supl.nokia.com, but I didn't reboot and as you can guess it didn't help.

Just changed it again + rebooted: success!

Glad I could help. If someone here knows a way to get Google to fix their SUPL servers SSL certificate, please let us know. When they do work Google's servers are faster and more accurate than Nokia's servers. At least that is my experience here in the USA with T-Mobile.

petur 2011-05-17 12:09

Re: [SOLVED] Cell or network location positioning broken
 
supl.google.com is working again :D

eladts 2011-05-17 12:11

Re: Cell or network location positioning broken
 
Google has updated the SSL certificate of supl.google.com, so now it works again with the Nokia N900.

goo.gl/Ms305


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