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richwhite 2011-05-17 04:47

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Nokia should have gone Android? WTF? Nokia should have developed Maemo 5 further and really pushed it as a high-end OS. I've said it time and time again that they should have had it as the high OS until MeeGo was ready, then move to that. This stupid 'yeah in a year there'll be another OS' was ridiculous with the speed at which Android is growing - not necessarily in ability, but just flooding the market. The irony is Maemo 5 is better optimised, far more open and far more customisable than Android - and you don't have to give your personal info to one of the most untrustworthy companies in the tech world.
There are people on Android who hate the N900 - fair enough, it's not for everyone hardware-wise. But if Maemo had been pushed, put on other devices, touchscreen-only, capacitive screen on some etc etc, and pushed it like Google pushes Android, the landscape would be different now.

This isn't a rant on Nokia shouldn't have gone WP7 route (personally i think if the missing features get into WP7 there's no problem with it replacing Symbian), but a response to the Nokia should've gone Android route. Same old story though - make an announcement, delay, delay, change your mind, delay, confuse everyone, cancel plan. Nokia is its own worst enemy by changing plans and not following up with the game changers it has. The momentum of Android in the consumer market shows how many people want what Maemo does so much better.

But on topic of MS/Nokia - because Elder got something right he's now the messiah? It's not in MS's interests to buy Nokia, why go to all that effort of hardware R+D and production and manufacturing when you have largest handset manufacturer doing it all for you? And giving you royalties? And giving you patent portfolio access? No reason to do it at all.

richwhite 2011-05-17 04:49

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Frappacino (Post 1007871)
lol at ppl here with "common sense"

no opinion on this rumour either way

but I remember similar posts prior to Elops Burning Platform

"Nokia will NEVER use Windows - It doesnt make sense ! NEVER HAPPEN !"

ha ha ha ha

The difference being that MS needed a big name partner to get WP7 going, and Nokia clearly needed some new direction with Symbian dropping marketshare. Yes we were all upset with the news but we can see why it happened. MS buying Nokia doesn't make sense though, for the reason explained in the last paragraph of my post above.

Frappacino 2011-05-17 04:59

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
>> Yes we were all upset with the news but we can see why it happened.

I think you are taking big liberties with the term "we"

PLENTY of people STILL saying Nokia killed withself with WP (nokia is now a generic hardware producer et etc)

Here is a hint - Does MS buying Skype make sense ?

again - ha ha ha to "common sense"

phedders 2011-05-17 05:16

Re: RUMOR: Microsoft buying Nokia
 
I've said several times - Elops getting bigger MS bonuses now, than ever.

abill_uk 2011-05-17 05:25

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Bring on WP7 at least it works !.

Everyone had better get used to the idea that Microsoft/Nokia will mean Maemo being replaced by WP7 and i think not before time either, have we not waited long enough for a fully workable OS and here it comes !!!.

Just think... a fully configurable N900 to a Windows OS has got to be good news has it not?.

PS do i duck and run now ? :p

jo21 2011-05-17 05:31

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zehjotkah (Post 1007434)
Think about Microsofts business.
They develop software and sell licenses to other companies.
By buying Nokia, they would lose their biggest customer for WP7 licenses and hand in hand with that they'd lose any other manufacturer out there because it's obvious that they'd prefer "their own" hardware manufacturer, causing bad sales for all the others.

Not going to happen.

not sells double all those put together.... it makes sense.

but nokia will loose it biggest manufacturer to samsung.

Rauha 2011-05-17 06:27

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Good news for Nokia. The quicker they get out of mobile the better in the long run.

They already gave up on mobile software and there's no money in just being a MS manufacturer. Hopefully Elop and all EVPs transfer to MS along with the mobile division, and Nokia can start rebuilding itself with fresh management.

momcilo 2011-05-17 07:06

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Well there is some more smoke/fire on the "burning platform":

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13409318

based on:

http://blog.ovi.com/2011/05/16/the-e...nokia-and-ovi/

I trust this is "share booster".

Brock 2011-05-17 07:14

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
dont like eldar... sometimes he is right but this time i dont think that this will happen.

But it would be something a lot of people had tought about... do you remember the guy who asked elop if he is a trojan horse? ;)

momcilo 2011-05-17 07:26

Re: Eldarmurtazin: "MS want to buy Nokia Mobile division"
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 1007916)
But it would be something a lot of people had tought about... do you remember the guy who asked elop if he is a trojan horse? ;)

I've missed that, can you post a link?

Still I don't think he was not a genuine Trojan horse, more like a manager during the transition that was agreed during the last year. I am pretty certain about this, the people who make big decisions don't allow common people to interfere.

The news we perceive and comment here are parts of the scenario which was designed much earlier.

There is no doubt that nokia is falling down, the only thing that remains to be seen how exactly this will happen. So Eldar may not be very far off the mark.


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