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karam 2011-07-14 13:13

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
hmm looks like not every one is satisfied
i'm testing the ideal profile (but modified it with some voltages)
i will see how it goes with me
and i will upload the file after i finish
so far getting better results(including more performance) i just don't understand why perhaps better voltages increases the performance ?

@carbonjha
POWERSAVE_BIAS modifies the behaviour of the ondemand governor to save more power by reducing the target frequency by a specified percentage

vi_ 2011-07-14 13:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
setting powersave bias is POINTLESS, this combined with a high up threshold simply means you rarely hit the top frequency which for most of you is ~700-750 MHz. So you are using your N900 more or less at 600MHz most of the time which happens to have the best speed/voltage tradeoff.

Apply a little thought. Set max speed to 805, use an up threshold of 93, enable SR, remove all frequencies except 250, 500, 650,805. Keep HW wake ups below 500 when the device is at rest.

There is you magic battery saving right there. Magic super mega script, pff. Smoke and mirrors broo.

zurrain101 2011-07-14 13:26

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karam (Post 1050889)
hmm looks like not every one is satisfied
i'm testing the ideal profile (but modified it with some voltages)
i will see how it goes with me
and i will upload the file after i finish
so far getting better results(including more performance) i just don't understand why perhaps better voltages increases the performance ?

@carbonjha
POWERSAVE_BIAS modifies the behaviour of the ondemand governor to save more power by reducing the target frequency by a specified percentage

why do u think its not working on some n900s? is there anything we could do to make it work? i have min 500 and max 750 and ur settings on default profiles but no increase in batt life.any idea?

corduroysack 2011-07-14 13:52

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i don't get it mine is lasting well and i hammer mine on the net and gaming. i'm going to see when i have to plug it in to mains cos it's usually around 2-3pm. i'm on default with the values changed and it's stable. i can't go up to 805 with SR because it keeps rebooting so have to keep it at 750. at present it's looking pretty good. going to look into what vi_ posted though :)

trisha02 2011-07-14 13:57

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1050894)
setting powersave bias is POINTLESS, this combined with a high up threshold simply means you rarely hit the top frequency which for most of you is ~700-750 MHz. So you are using your N900 more or less at 600MHz most of the time which happens to have the best speed/voltage tradeoff.

Apply a little thought. Set max speed to 805, use an up threshold of 93, enable SR, remove all frequencies except 250, 500, 650,805. Keep HW wake ups below 500 when the device is at rest.

There is you magic battery saving right there. Magic super mega script, pff. Smoke and mirrors broo.

what is HW bdw and how to apply that?

HtheB 2011-07-14 14:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Still waiting for it's release in the repos :)

vi_ 2011-07-14 14:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corduroysack (Post 1050908)
i don't get it mine is lasting well and i hammer mine on the net and gaming. i'm going to see when i have to plug it in to mains cos it's usually around 2-3pm. i'm on default with the values changed and it's stable. i can't go up to 805 with SR because it keeps rebooting so have to keep it at 750. at present it's looking pretty good. going to look into what vi_ posted though :)

corduroysack (always liked that name), consider:

Code:

power=a*capacitance*frequency*voltage^2
You can more or less ignore a(a constant) and capacitance.

Basically the BIGGEST factor in determining how much power the processor is using is the current voltage (as it gets squared). According to the graph, there is a large step up at 600 => 700MHz.

Thus, if you want to totally pimp maximate CPU power useage to the max (or min in this case!) you should in fact limit it to 600MHz

i.e. 250 > 600 as your only available frequencies. Although none of this is any use if you are constantly hammering your CPU with widgets/appz and remnants of broken tweakz scripts (which most of the users with poor battery life are probably suffering from).

trisha02 2011-07-14 14:21

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i dnt have any widgets jst few contacts nd calender..without applying the tweak battery life was very gud after applying the speedpatch..i want the default one bak.can nybody help me with default settings as i dint copy it down..this tweaks is useless

corduroysack 2011-07-14 14:34

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
thanks for explaining this to me but excuse me i'm on morphine so getting things straight can get a bit wild lol corduroysack has been with me since late teens lol
back to business
So it would be of more benefit to change to ideal and max at 600 rather than 750 and min @ 250 and clear out the freq inbetween?
and change the powersave bias back to 0?

trisha02 2011-07-14 14:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i came homw with 10percent...charged it for 15min and the battery was 65..how is that possible?

vi_ 2011-07-14 15:05

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corduroysack (Post 1050936)
thanks for explaining this to me but excuse me i'm on morphine so getting things straight can get a bit wild lol corduroysack has been with me since late teens lol
back to business
So it would be of more benefit to change to ideal and max at 600 rather than 750 and min @ 250 and clear out the freq inbetween?
and change the powersave bias back to 0?

Well that really depends on your use case Cord. I am saying if a person wanted MAXIMUM battery they would use the frequency that used the least voltage (obviously if you take that maxim to its logical conclusion the voltage be zero and the device would be off!). I was merely pointing out that there is quite a significant step between 250->600 and 600->750. The amount of extra power required to run the CPU from 600->750 is that voltage differance squared (times by itself) so big steps = even bigger increase in power requirements. From the graph you can see that the voltage step between 250->600 is not so big therefore it doesn't require that much more power.

The point is it is a trade off between power and frequency here and the most bang for your buck is at 600MHz.

The reason for removing unneeded frequencies is because it takes CPU time to check if a change is needed, then even more time to enact this change. From the graph we can see there is not really too much difference in voltage between 250->600 so why not just spank it all the way strait to 600?

I run my device at 805MHz as I am prepared to take a mild hit in battery life for the sake of performance.

Morphine ay? You either like to get REALLY high or...well you fight it.

trisha02 2011-07-14 15:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
where is karam? what do u want to say abt his battery tweak?...so finally what shud be the whole settings.if i want to save battery.like the whole thing cz i frgt what i hav changed and what not.

Mohammad 2011-07-14 15:18

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i think we should wait a bit more
until karam uploads the modified ideal profile
then we decide what way to do

PS : what i have figured out from vi_ suggestion is
he only increased the thresold value
and removed the powersave_bias
and why is it pointless
i use N900 from the day released and i can tell that powersave_bias
gave me at least 10 hours

corduroysack 2011-07-14 15:19

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
cheers for that vi_ i've got it i'm clearer on that now :D
yeah morphine had an op last year and recovery didn't go exactly to plan, rehab awaits me when i finally am fixed :D

trisha02 2011-07-14 15:28

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
what are the settings? tell me the settings...ideal or default jst copy it and paste it here plzzz

trisha02 2011-07-14 15:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohammad (Post 1050963)
i think we should wait a bit more
until karam uploads the modified ideal profile
then we decide what way to do

PS : what i have figured out from vi_ suggestion is
he only increased the thresold value
and removed the powersave_bias
and why is it pointless
i use N900 from the day released and i can tell that powersave_bias
gave me at least 10 hours

i will wait..so can u jst copy it herethat what were the default and ideal settings before editing it.i dint copy it.my phone was better before.plzzz paste it here for both

corduroysack 2011-07-14 15:45

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
refer back to first post and change your settings in default and ideal back to original values.
-----------------------------------
SMARTREFLEX_VDD1=1
SMARTREFLEX_VDD2=1
-----------------------------------

To

-----------------------------------
SMARTREFLEX_VDD1=0
SMARTREFLEX_VDD2=0
-----------------------------------

And change

-----------------------------------
POWERSAVE_BIAS=20
-----------------------------------

To

-----------------------------------
POWERSAVE_BIAS=0
-----------------------------------

trisha02 2011-07-14 15:47

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
where is karam?its his tweak..y isnt he replying

corduroysack 2011-07-14 15:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
probably busy, he too has got a life away from here :D

trisha02 2011-07-14 18:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by corduroysack (Post 1050983)
refer back to first post and change your settings in default and ideal back to original values.
-----------------------------------
SMARTREFLEX_VDD1=1
SMARTREFLEX_VDD2=1
-----------------------------------

To

-----------------------------------
SMARTREFLEX_VDD1=0
SMARTREFLEX_VDD2=0
-----------------------------------

And change

-----------------------------------
POWERSAVE_BIAS=20
-----------------------------------

To

-----------------------------------
POWERSAVE_BIAS=0
-----------------------------------

yes dat i know..its given in the first page..i meant what frequencies...max min..can u suggest one to increase battery life..and the default upthreshhold.karam pm d me..he said dat he will c.and some one also pmed me saying that karam's patch is fake:S

corduroysack 2011-07-14 18:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
that someone who pm'd you did his name begin with E and end in H?
lol it's harry potter he who shall not be named.

dunno about threshold thing he sent because i didn't get any of that. kasam will be on soon, he'll sort it for you. :D

red lights just started flashing that means recharge :(

karam 2011-07-14 20:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
ok now guys please test the modified ideal profile (instructions)
in first post

Note the maxfreq is set to 750
you can change it with qcpu

i have uploaded this profile because the previous one didn't work with everyone

please enjoy

EDIT: I'm sorry guys i took too late to reply
because i was very busy
and the threshold thing : well i didn't do many tests on it
will do later

Mohammad 2011-07-14 20:38

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
will try it
although the previous one worked well with me
thanks karam

zurrain101 2011-07-14 20:44

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
ok have applied the ideal settings. is it optimized for speed as well? as in its not gonna make the phone slow to increase the battery?

karam 2011-07-14 20:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
no zurrian101
it is 750 mhz and it didn't effect the battery in my case

i have tested the modified ideal profile today

continues usage from 3 pm to 12 pm
and conky reported 45% left
i hope it works the exact way it worked with me

PS: if you see any battery effects just make the maximum value of frequency 600 mhz
with qcpu or xterminal

zurrain101 2011-07-14 20:51

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
ok thanks. my battery is currently 50 percent. lets see what happens till tomorrow with your ideal profile loaded. oh and btw setting the min to 500 will affect battery life?

karam 2011-07-14 20:52

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
it will kill it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
tried that but the battery got empty in 8 hours!!!
i think that was the reason you had a short battery life

zurrain101 2011-07-14 20:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
LOL. THANKS A LOT. I think this is gonna work for me nowww :)))

ironm8 2011-07-14 21:42

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
After using the latest tweaks over the past few days, i can report that responsiveness is better SIGNIFICANTLY.
However, I am still not sold completely about the battery improvements.
Today was a typical day for me, as i study for my finals i listen to music and occasionally use microb or phone. I was in the red in 10Hrs.

mehulrajput 2011-07-15 00:23

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zurrain101 (Post 1051163)
ok thanks. my battery is currently 50 percent. lets see what happens till tomorrow with your ideal profile loaded. oh and btw setting the min to 500 will affect battery life?

No it won't kill it. It all depends on your usage. If your usage is moderate it will still go on. Please read the wiki on overclocking and see for yourself. 500Mhz with power kernel uses way lesser power than default profile of n900. 250Mhz and 500Mhz has very minuscule power consumption difference.

mehulrajput 2011-07-15 00:26

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1050929)
i dnt have any widgets jst few contacts nd calender..without applying the tweak battery life was very gud after applying the speedpatch..i want the default one bak.can nybody help me with default settings as i dint copy it down..this tweaks is useless


if you have not made change to the default profile of your power kernel like stated in post 1, then do the following in terminal

sudo gainroot
kernel-config load default

this will load default values and then apply the tweaks from qcpufreq as mentioned in first post.

trisha02 2011-07-15 03:46

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i did change the default one.but changed it bak.but i cant remember the changes that was originally der.i reverted bak to the original settings of samrtreflex.but i am sonfused abt max min freq and upthreshhold.can u help.and do u mean that after selecting the default profile i follow karam's step (edit and load the ideal)??

trisha02 2011-07-15 05:16

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i came our from home with full charge.browsed net for a total of 20mins and listened to music for 20mins.and took 2calls for a total of 20mins.all this happened within an hr.my charge was 95 and now its 80 within an hour..what the f*** man

karam 2011-07-15 07:05

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
@mehulrajput
it killed it in my case don't know why

@trisha02
why are you loading the default?
just follow the first post instructions!!!
load ideal profile
and test it

trisha02 2011-07-15 07:16

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
who said that i loaded the default..the above battery information occured after i followed ur steps and loaded the ideal..i dint load the default.i followed ur 1st step.it drains more battery...

Seker_94 2011-07-15 07:38

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
trisha02
you seems to have a stupid N900
these battery tweaks are awesome
they gave me +2days

trisha02 2011-07-15 08:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
the patch worked fyn..y will my N900 be stupid only for this battery tweaks.may b my battery has sme problem.how to check weder my battery is okay or giving my phone full power

Seker_94 2011-07-15 08:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i'm sorry but i'm not expert with these things
maybe some one can help

trisha02 2011-07-15 08:58

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
u jst followed the step in the first step and u get 1-2 day full? how much do u use it?

eefo 2011-07-15 08:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1051379)
the patch worked fyn..y will my N900 be stupid only for this battery tweaks.may b my battery has sme problem.how to check weder my battery is okay or giving my phone full power

i know this will be a hard thing to do .
but for your benefit ..
try uninstalling everything you installed from this thread and start it from the scratch ..


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