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Seker_94 2011-07-15 09:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trisha02 (Post 1051403)
u jst followed the step in the first step and u get 1-2 day full? how much do u use it?

yep i use it now a day about 9 hours continuoslly
it can hold on about 1 and a half day

but when i don't use it it holds 3-4 days

corduroysack 2011-07-15 09:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i've just realized how much text writing annoys me, there's no need there isn't a set number of character's per post! sorry had to get that off my chest!

trisha02 2011-07-15 09:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
if u follow karams test then u have max frequency 750 den if u load it to ideal from qcpu den the cpu speed becomes 750...but i underclocked it to 500 but still it battery doesnt last..so shudnt i underclock it?

ysss 2011-07-15 09:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
So what is the logic behind this super battery tweak?

Seker_94 2011-07-15 10:59

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i don't know
it just works

vi_ 2011-07-15 11:03

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ysss (Post 1051428)
So what is the logic behind this super battery tweak?

None, there is none logic. Just a lot of quacking.

Quack.

ysss 2011-07-15 11:06

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seker_94 (Post 1051454)
i don't know
it just works

Man, that is worse than praising fart apps on iPhones.

Mohammad 2011-07-15 11:08

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karam (Post 1050889)

POWERSAVE_BIAS modifies the behaviour of the ondemand governor to save more power by reducing the target frequency by a specified percentage



that is the logic of it

PS: i works great with me
i'm really enjoying my N900
with the long battery tweak

Seker_94 2011-07-15 11:10

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
me too
it works awesome with me

corduroysack 2011-07-15 11:24

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
the VFS cache pressure value change in swappolube made an improvement but i still only got 1 day on a japod battery, i didn't need to recharge as early as usual with the limits change though but the fact it still needed charging my device aint never going to see some reported 'days' i have gone back to my original limits and going to play with them.

vi_ 2011-07-15 11:26

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohammad (Post 1051462)
that is the logic of it

PS: i works great with me
i'm really enjoying my N900
with the long battery tweak

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ysss, your a smart troll. Consider:

Code:

power=a*capacitance*frequency*voltage^2
As power is a function of the square of the voltage, power usage is has an exponential relationship with the voltage used.

Consider this graph:

http://tonism.2bit.ee/N900/starving.png

It can be read from this graph that the best voltage/frequency trade off is 600MHz as:

The V differance between 250-600 is the same as 600-700. The 600-700 voltage increase is the first significant increase therefore if one was attempting to use the greatest frequency with the least increase in power usage they would limit the maximum speed to 600MHz.

Further to this you may notice that there is little difference between 250-500 compared to 500-600. This would suggest that you would want the CPU to be operating in the 250-500MHz region, 'dipping' into the 600 when it needed to.

To achieve this one would remove ALL available frequencies except 0, 250, 500 and 600MHz then set the up threshold to something reasonably high.

This combined with smart reflex is how this extra battery life is achieved. The reason it is so revolutionary is because of the 'technical level' of the participants of the thread who have not arrived at this undervolt/extend battery life conclusion.

There is no logic here as logic implies there was a rational process of factual reduction that lead to this conclusion.

Seker_94 2011-07-15 11:35

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i'm not smart enough to understand any of the things you have posted vi_
but i'm smart enough to tell that powersave_bias does effect the battery life
that is all what i can say at the moment

PS: i wish not another smart epitaph

Bøbo 2011-07-15 11:47

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
I have the feeling you are not gonna convince everyone that Karam is part-wrong due to the "technical level" of the participants here.

For what I have seen, placebo or not, my phone "seems" to be "better". Maybe it could have also been if I have done some tweak manually, but it seems to have "improved" at least.

But I'm also rising question about trying a fresh reflash with smart reflex and the vfs change.

I think people that are claiming huge battery improvement should post pictures of BatteryGraph to see their phone activities. This would convince me more than an affirmation of hours of internet and music player done.

Still, I rather say thanks to the person that give me a bit of hope in my n900 even if there a disccusion for deaf people in the thread.

ps: Mine is current holding the 3rd day with very limited use of internet. (1h30). I could have done similarly without any battery drainage problem like I had before....

ps2: I've seen a lot of people running on Mugen batteries.....does some in this thread are using it with the said tweak ?

corduroysack 2011-07-15 12:08

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seker_94 (Post 1051480)

PS: i wish not another smart epitaph

nooooo did you have to mention that name he'll be along soon now :(

corduroysack 2011-07-15 12:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
good point about mugen batteries. ok who's using stock batteries?

vi_ 2011-07-15 12:25

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
oh and one other thing. Believe it or not LI-ion batteries have a finite lifespan. Anything from a couple of weeks to a year or so (depending on the number of charge cycles and how the battery is treated). The capacity of a battery is reduced slightly EVERY charge. Quite simply, buy a new battery. You will be amazed at how shagged your old one was.

ProTip: Go to dr_frost_dk's battery thread and follow the link for the SCUD blue battery. It only costs like $5 and has ~15% greater capacity than the original.

If after all this you still have suck battery life, you have broken something. Either diagnose with powertop & top or just re-flash and start again.

rickrvo 2011-07-15 12:52

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Great job with this script! Finally now my n900 feels like a phone! and not like a slow computer... and I only overclocked to 700MHz, also my battery lasts 2x more!

Great miraclescript! :) thank you jesus!!! lol

eefo 2011-07-15 12:54

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
for those who still didn't understand what are these tweaks all about and what vi_ said search for these sort of post as above :p

corduroysack 2011-07-15 14:43

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickrvo (Post 1051533)
Great job with this script! Finally now my n900 feels like a phone! and not like a slow computer... and I only overclocked to 700MHz, also my battery lasts 2x more!

Great miraclescript! :) thank you jesus!!! lol

what more can i say, i cannot top that ;)

zurrain101 2011-07-15 14:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
well karam after the ideal profile with min 250 n max 750, i am getting one 22 hours with nominal use. like when it used to be on 250 to 600 on default kernel. no improvements for me :(

trisha02 2011-07-15 14:49

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
the max cpu speed is 750..i shudnt downgrade it?

jpala16 2011-07-15 17:35

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vi_ (Post 1051518)
ProTip: Go to dr_frost_dk's battery thread and follow the link for the SCUD blue battery. It only costs like $5 and has ~15% greater capacity than the original.

If after all this you still have suck battery life, you have broken something. Either diagnose with powertop & top or just re-flash and start again.

That's the one I'm using. I noticed an improvement on battery life.
Currently I'm testing that Ideal set from Karam and the powerbias thing.

@Guys who have improved significantly battery life
Do you have empty homescreens, or at least without widgets? I have at least a widget on every homescreen. Maybe that's why I didn't see a significant improve on battery life.

However, now I can use Dual mode, most of the time on 3G, and battery is lasting well.

trisha02 2011-07-15 17:39

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i want to start from scratch.dats y i tried to uninstall the speed patch.for uninstalling it.i got this::::

BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

~ $ sudo gainroot
Root shell enabled


BusyBox v1.10.2 (Debian 3:1.10.2.legal-1osso30+0m5) built-in shell (ash)
Enter 'help' for a list of built-in commands.

/home/user # rm /etc/event.d/speedpatch
/home/user # rm /home/user/.profile
rm: cannot remove '/home/user/.profile': No such file or directory
/home/user # rm /usr/local/sbin/cgroup_clean
/home/user # mv /root/.profile.bak /root/.profile
mv: cannot rename '/root/.profile.bak': No such file or directory
/home/user #

is it okay? i will reboot nw

eefo 2011-07-15 17:51

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
@trisha if you are having the latest patch installed then this is not the right way to unistall it .
scroll down abit from the install instruction and you will see the uninstall heading where the uninstall.txt is attached .
download that file and follow the instructions as given .

p.s only if you are having the latest patchas the output you have posted showing that you have put the wrong command .

zurrain101 2011-07-15 19:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i tried removing n enabling both the speedpatch plus the battery tweaks to get the battery tweaks. seems it doesnt work for me :(

trisha02 2011-07-15 19:16

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
the battery tweaks doesnt work fr me either.plz help karam

karam 2011-07-15 23:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
ok ok ok
first ideal profile is not important to be 750
i mentioned in the first post that if you noticed any battery effects
just make the max freq 600

and for people having problems with the tweak

i think you are using a lot of auto update apps

in my case :
i disabled auto wifi update / connect
disabled all repositories (i enable them only when i need them)
configured any auto update app to manual update

i can't help any further
sorry

btw i'm trying some other battery tweaks
will see how it goes with me

Mohammad 2011-07-15 23:17

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rickrvo (Post 1051533)
Great job with this script! Finally now my n900 feels like a phone! and not like a slow computer... and I only overclocked to 700MHz, also my battery lasts 2x more!

Great miraclescript! :) thank you jesus!!! lol

that's what i'm talking about baby !!!
EDIT : but me thank you mohammad!!!lol

trisha02 2011-07-16 00:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by karam (Post 1051853)
ok ok ok
first ideal profile is not important to be 750
i mentioned in the first post that if you noticed any battery effects
just make the max freq 600

and for people having problems with the tweak

i think you are using a lot of auto update apps

in my case :
i disabled auto wifi update / connect
disabled all repositories (i enable them only when i need them)
configured any auto update app to manual update

i can't help any further
sorry

btw i'm trying some other battery tweaks
will see how it goes with me

firstly i edited your file with file manager and changed max to 600.does that mean that i cant overclock it.after settttttting max cpu to 600 can i change frequencies according to my need with max cpu.like when idle i will downgrade it with max cpu to 500 and for intensive use i will changte it to 750.but the profile is ideal.its not a problem ryt?

secondly i do no use wifi at all.yesterday after again applying the tweaks i browsed net for 4hrs continuously.battery was 39 from 95.den i slept with 30 and after i woke uo battery was 13.y did it take so much in standby

thirdly my apps do no update automatically.i never connected to 3g.brightness is always at its lowest level.i seriously want this tweak karam :'(

trisha02 2011-07-16 01:12

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
when karam's tweak is applied. with max 750 then in conky cpu usage is at an average of 12.ram usage- 57 percent and swap usage -16 percent.. 47.59 mb free in rootfs..is evrything alright?

karam 2011-07-16 06:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
@trisha02
when setting max freq 600
you can change it easlly with qcpu

everything alright except you mean 120ram ? not 12?
according to what saying you should have a better battery life that i have

i think
1-) you have a problem with your battery it self
2-) you have a hard ware problem with your N900
3-) something wrong with your system causing an operation to suck up the battery

trisha02 2011-07-16 08:30

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
ram usage is 69 percent now.swap usage is 14 percent now. processes 194 running 1,,,cpu usage 34 percent. i changed it to 600.still no luck.i went out with 96.browsed web for 20mins.took 6 cals for a total of 20mins. and boom battery is 76 percent. it has been a yr i am using N900.i faced no harware problem.what do u suggest?

stooobs 2011-07-16 09:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
i find i get better battry with the mod probe enabled even thou conky shows more remaining than i actually have also do you have cssu installed because theres a patch included that lowers cpu usage
i have all the tweaks applied here except mod probe im running kernel 47, max and min freq is 805,also i left tracer process at full speed just backlisted some big folders, i idle at 3 percent
from the sounds of it you have a runaway process or a bad app installed

locolyric 2011-07-16 10:57

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
hi all,
is this normal when install the latest patch ?

Quote:

Nokia-N900:~# cd /home/user/MyDocs
Nokia-N900:/home/user/MyDocs# sh install.txt
cp: cannot stat '/home/user/MyDocs/*/speedpatch.tar.gz': No such file or directory
cp: cannot stat '/home/user/MyDocs/*/*/speedpatch.tar.gz': No such file or directory
cp: '/home/user/MyDocs/../speedpatch.tar.gz' and '/home/user/speedpatch.tar.gz' are the same file

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
bash is already the newest version.
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
mkdir: cannot create directory '/usr/local/sbin': File exists
transitions.ini
speedpatch
speedpatch.sh

Patching [/root/.bashrc]...

It seems the patch is already included in /root/.bashrc

Patching [/etc/rc.local]...

cat: can't open '/etc/rc.local': No such file or directory
Adding the patch...
cat: can't open '/etc/rc.local': No such file or directory
Making backup of /etc/rc.local in /etc/rc.local.backup.txt
cp: cannot stat '/etc/rc.local': No such file or directory
sed: /etc/rc.local: No such file or directory

#========== 200 lines kernel patch alternative ============
mkdir -p /dev/cgroup/cpu
mount -t cgroup cgroup /dev/cgroup/cpu -o cpu
mkdir -m 0777 /dev/cgroup/cpu/user
echo "/usr/local/sbin/cgroup_clean" > /dev/cgroup/cpu/release_agent
#====================================

Making [/etc/rc.local] executable


Creating [/usr/local/sbin/cgroup_clean]...

#!/bin/sh
if [ "$*" != "/user" ]; then
rmdir /dev/cgroup/cpu/$*
fi

Making [/usr/local/sbin/cgroup_clean] executable

DONE. The patch has been applied. Restart your computer...
mount: mounting cgroup on /dev/cgroup/cpu failed: Device or resource busy
mkdir: cannot create directory '/dev/cgroup/cpu/user': File exists

Ignore Any Errors Appeared
Reboot To Complete The Installation Progress



eefo 2011-07-16 11:00

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by locolyric (Post 1052028)
hi all,
is this normal when install the latest patch ?


you sure speedpatch.tar file is in /home/user/MyDocs ?

trisha02 2011-07-16 11:15

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stooobs (Post 1052001)
i find i get better battry with the mod probe enabled even thou conky shows more remaining than i actually have also do you have cssu installed because theres a patch included that lowers cpu usage
i have all the tweaks applied here except mod probe im running kernel 47, max and min freq is 805,also i left tracer process at full speed just backlisted some big folders, i idle at 3 percent
from the sounds of it you have a runaway process or a bad app installed

how did u do it.can u give me in detail.i hav cssu installed and power 47.plz help.dis battery tweaks are nt helping.i did evrythng.started from scratch.i need detail.god help

locolyric 2011-07-16 11:29

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eefo (Post 1052032)
you sure speedpatch.tar file is in /home/user/MyDocs ?

confirmed.

But i do found another speedpatch under /root

is this normal?

Or should i delete the cgroup_patch and speedpatch , uninstall it and re-install again?

corduroysack 2011-07-16 11:42

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
1 Attachment(s)
here's my battery graph image, in the steps i had wifi connected and browsing net and using mame and other emulators. i don't know why it shows the CPU like that because on the acutally program the blocking disapears when touched

carbonjha 2011-07-16 11:48

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
@karam
I applied your patch and all the tweaks. Im using power kernel v47. now my standby time is very satisfying. but whenever i use my device just for making call or sending sms my battery drain super fast. my max cpu freq is 700. i've attached a long battery graph screenshot. I need your help.....please

http://a.yfrog.com/img739/3240/1al.png

ironm8 2011-07-16 12:11

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Super Script [FINAL VERSION] + Tweaks To Speed UP N900 Dramatically + Battery Improvements
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carbonjha (Post 1052061)
@karam
I applied your patch and all the tweaks. Im using power kernel v47. now my standby time is very satisfying. but whenever i use my device just for making call or sending sms my battery drain super fast. my max cpu freq is 700. i've attached a long battery graph screenshot. I need your help.....please


I think my device behaves the same. It seems that while on stand-by the device consume almost no battery, so you get goo battery life "potentially".

However, when using, it seems to drain very fast. I believe it has something to do with the new youthful responsiveness of the device. It seems very much 'on edge'.

For now, i'll revert back to the normal battery preset[ulv 950mhz and no smartflex] until something more concrete will be done.


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