Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

Sigh.. serves me right for not checking the source first...

You mean the one you were working on (and PM me about) after I wrote this post? Sorry, I'm not precognisant. I can't check a version you released after my comments were made.

Technically we are both correct and both wrong. kernel-power-settings overrides /etc/pmconfig by loading it's own preferred default if it's installed. So, the proper operational order appears to be:

• Kernel starts with Nokia base-line defaults at boot.
• Kernel loads /etc/pmconfig shortly after fs is mounted.
• If kernel-power-settings is installed, it's scripts load /etc/default/kernel-power if it exists, so long as this isn't the second reboot in under 5 minutes.

So to be sure to capture existing settings for later restore during uninstall, batery-patch should backup /etc/pmconfig AND /etc/default/kernel-power. The later is a link, so capturing/restoring it isn't quite as simple. (It complicates the restore, as an existing link needs to be removed first...)

Technically, if you never call kernel-config default <filename> in any of your scripts, then you don't need to backup either file. If you scripts are changed to only call kernel-config load, then all changes made will be temporary, and it will never change the default, removing the need to restore it in postrm. That currently is not the case, as you do call kernel-config default in at least one of your scripts.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

no no no that was speedpatcch



nothing new here
//edit
but nokia base-line is pmconfig i guess


well this is something didn't came on my mind
will deal with it later, after the new speedpatch

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

What are you talking about? There was a good 5+ month period between when Titan left and Pali picked up working on the kernel. And I never claimed to run ALL kernels, or that I was getting 30 days from day 1. In PR1.0 I was lucky to get 7 days before I needed to reboot, mainly because of memory leaks in Nokia/Hildon code.

Understand, I was one of the first people to have an N900. I pre-ordered, twice (read the threads here for why twice), and owned one within the first week if it hitting the open market. I've had my N900 for over 2 years now, and have had a several periods where it's gone >30 days without a reboot. Most of those have been in PR1.2/Titan-KP or PR1.3 with Pali-KP.

Also understand that I don't test every kernel or every package known to man. I update things when I need to, and reboot when I have to (which is quite rare). And with a few exceptions, most updates don't require a reboot. Updating ModRana or Boggle doesn't necessitate one to reboot their phone, unlike WP7. :rolleyes:

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

*facepalm*

cmon guys stop this empty useless chitchat
need to know the status of sp v3.6

oops forgot to add cleanup script for .bashrc
updated to v3.7

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem)
 

??? What are you talking about? I never claimed that you adapted cgroup to syspart before this. Where do you see me saying that? I didn't. I'm simply stated that it may not be reasonable to expect the next version to behave like the previous version because you have dramatically changed how you're doing something. Period.

You stated in your own thread that this was a major change for speed-patch. What's so hard to understand about that?

Regardless, changes to /etc/pmconfig will be short lived if you are using battery-patch, since it loads it's own configs within the first minute of the system starting up. Since that's a fact, and you can't debate it, you make things up and claim I say things when I don't.

I'm kind of tired of the childish games and lies. It's bad enough that you say/claim things when you don't know what you're doing. Or when you're doing damaging things to other people's devices because you can't be bothered to do proper testing or read documentation about dbus results. But when you actively lie about what someone is saying, and back hand them, when in PM you're asking for help on scripts and how things work? I've known 5 year olds with more common sense and respect for others.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem)
 

Btw: ONE person does not prove much about any program. Especially when the same person later notes this was "normal use", which could mean just about anything. (eg That normal use could mean he made a 10 minute call with BP and a 20 minute call without... both "normal use", but both take vastly different tolls on the battery!) I also note you didn't mention at all about several people having issue with ring-stuttering or video playback being a problem after installing a version.

Funny that you only present a single positive review, vs dealing with the factual discussion at hand. Frankly, when someone asks "if I change pmconfig will it work if I have battery-patch installed", the factual answer is NO, which is what I answered. We both know that to be true, but rather than accept the truth, you play a childish game, claim I say things I've never said, and act hurt.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

battery patch (except the last version that was stuttering my videos) is a great program....I remember the days where I had to charge my phone every night.Now, it lasts for two days so I`m not anxious to rush to the power cord every single night.....keep up the good work!

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

so..new speedpatch is totally uninstalled by just purging it right?..and xterm error free?..hm..i'll give it a shot..

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

Hi Woody! I hope that when you talk to karam you'd also consider the fact that English is not his native language. I wouldn't really want to join in this conversation but I, as a non-native English speaker, feel that sometimes you feel that he is being rude when he isn't. Your tone or wording is actually pretty harsh.
I do understand why you are making so much effort in posting here and correcting/guiding karam but I think you can be more civil, which I have seen you are capable of when karam is following your advice.
I'd also share my experience as a non-coder and previous user of karam's patches. I did notice improvements in my battery life and apparent performance of my N900 when I still had the patches installed. I used the script versions and had KP47 then. I never tried the repo versions and I didn't use his profile that came with the patches as I don't want to overclock my device. I'm now running my N900 without the patches and I do remember my browser being more responsive when I had them. Thanks for your efforts, I'm looking forward to more constructive/productive exchanges between you guys! :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

nice speak vetsin :)

@ed_boner
yes totally safe install and uninstall
and no need to purge
i added a line to *rule* file that does purging from FAM or HAM

@woody14619
as vetsin said : do feel that i'm rude ?
if you do .. well i don't mean to be so
but check what sophocha posted
and those links you provided . they had a problem with a previous version
but currently batterypatch is bug free (at last)
as well as the new speedpatch (but need replies about it)

@vetsin
if you are using the script version , i highly recommend to switch to repo version ,because finally i was able to make cgroup uses syspart configs and it does improve the device response, and it installs/uninstalls safely

@sophocha
is the current version causing any troubles ?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem)
 

oh god
few pages behind
i haves posted about pmconfig and you have shouted on me because i didn't explained enough
*face palm*

lol
i have actually wanted your suggestion only as you are the one always shouting on my face ! ! ! !

OK I SWEAR TO GOD I WILL NEVER EVER EVER EVER ASK YOU ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE
AND IF YOU NOTICED THAT THEIR IS NONE OF THE CODES YOU GAVE ME WHICH I USED !!
NONE
STILL I HAVE IMPROVED THE PATCHES

NOW THIS IS CHILDISH

NOTHING TO SAY MORE . period

//EDIT : I REALLY MEAN I WILL NOT REPLY ANY OF THIS B*LL SH*T AGAIN
WHEN YOU START TO BE EFFECTIVE OR HELPFUL
THEN I WILL COOPERATE

//EDIT 2 : I GO TO SLEEP NOW ! >.<

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

Hi,Karam,
During the upgrade process to BatteryPatch-Testing 4.6,I got following message:
warning: 700000 not supported
warning: 750000 not supported
And I check overclock profile,the max cpu freq is set to 700,not 805. Any reason you set this freq?

P.S. I use KP49 + CSSU.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

Latest speed patch is awesome. I noticed direct improvement in many things, and it can't be a placebo. I've had other versions installed, but this is much better.

thanks :)

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

The first thing I do when I update your battery patch is to change the max frequency to 850 rather than 700.Because I`m using the 720p drivers when I capture HD video it stutters a lot.With 850 it`s smoother....other than that it`s great!....that`s because at 850 the DSP is overclocked to 600.....smoother operation

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

karam, if you want replies to PM, you should make some space in your PM archive.
Anyway. instead of going a short route, it's a necessary read as complete as that page:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-pol...erscripts.html

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

It's not only about my personal decision to use or not these patches. Since I am hundred percent convinced that this patch is useless and that I can have 10 days standby without it, then it is my duty to tell other this fact. After all why are we here in this community, if not for helping each other with the usage of our devices and solve other users problems?

The fact that the feedback is already very mixed, would bring me if I would be a developer, a question mark. While experienced contributors clearly are explaining and proving why the patch is useless, other users are claiming battery improvement. It might be that some users don't know how to load for example dsp profile, and for that reason battery patch was helping them. Others might just want to help you with good feedback just because of subjective reasons, reasons which I don't think is appropriate to raise here.

I believe you have good intention while trying to improve the device, but maybe it is time to give up and recognize that, while your patch was useful in the past, now with the new kernels 49 and above, your patch is obsolete. This happens many times in IT industry for many applications, and it is not a shame. It is just normal evolution of the technology.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

i like batterypatch because it gives better battery life and also you dont have to compromise N900's performance. btw can anybody post a picture of their N900 battery-eye in offline mode while in stand by as my phone is consuming battery i dont know why.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

i also have the same problem. i change them manually to match kp49 frequencies.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

i get over 2 days with no patches and stock nokia kernel so what's the plus?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

@panjgoori

check the battery-eye screen shot i have posted few pages behind

@ hugh.jf.chen

was this happening with older versions ?Oo

i will check it out

@yrannadx

why updating exists ?
didn't you see the reply of ahmadamaj ?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

so clearly hah ?
update honey update to the latest versions

@karam
latest speedpatch version is awesome
not a single lag since yesterday

keep up the good work

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

same here
latest speedpatch rocks :) :) :)

thank you

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

expected behavior from the sp
thanks for reply

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

@karam - well, it took you how much, an year? To achieve what is already in stock n900. If I understand correctly, your latest speedpatch uses cgroups assigment already done by Nokia, just moves mount point from /syspart to /dev/cgroup. And puts processes started from terminal into a different cgroup. Bravo. So, will you elaborate on how this "speedpatch" makes things better than ohmd (which is responsible for process distributon along cgroups) for hildon-desktop, dialer, browser, etc?

Of course there are reports of speedup with it, AS THE STOCK NOKIA CONFIGURATION IS USED.

And BTW it would still be incompatible with any SW which tries to use /syspart for cgroup directory creation, as you are moving the mount point to a different place.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

looks like yes but there is a reason for this
1- year 2009 i didn't anything about linux
2- from 2010--> 2012 exactly /4/6/2012 i have a to study for my bakaloriat
and the one in my country (f*cken hard)
ask anyone from syria
so i have a very little time to dev on N900

nokia didn't use cgroup
they used ohmd to do as cgroup does
but i can see that cgroup gives more responsible and performance

read 1st post

how would it be speedup if it was AS before
i used the NOKIA configs with cgroup which gave a quite good result
PS: older version didn't use Nokia configs and though improved N900 a bit (mostly noticed :hildon-desktop)


currently i haven't seen any SW that modifies /syspart
and if any future SWs
well thaey will have to check for speedpatch existen in postinst

anything else would you come up with ?
perhaps you would say "the new nokia Firmware pr1.4 WILL NOT be compatible with speedpatch in future"

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

This thread is full of fail.


...and yes, I'M BACK! MWAHHAHAHAHA :D

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

Bullsh|t, do "cat /proc/mounts | grep syspart" on a device without "speedpatch" installed and you will see:

cgroup /syspart cgroup rw,freezer,memory,cpu 0 0

ohmd distributes processes along cgroups using /usr/share/policy/current/rx51/syspart.conf.

Kernel does not distribute processes to cgroups, it is userland who should do it


There is nothing in the OP describing how the processes are distributed along different cgroups.

By saying AS BEFORE I meant that those users have had a previous version of SP before installing latest, which reverts cgroups configuration to stock (excluding different mount point).

Currently you don't see obvious things, let alone some future software. Take it as a piece of advice - do not modify system configurations which could affect current/future SW except absolutely neccessary. Which is not the case with speedpatch.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

It depends on what you are doing in those couple of days.Me for example Im using My N900 for:

-Bluetooth connection to the stereo in my car
-GPS
-Constant 3g streaming of internet radio to my stereo.
-browsing the internet
-emails
-watching some videos
-background full of widgets
-.....and so on, and I still have 2 days of battery.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

@freemangordon
wtf man when speedpatch was ignoring syspart you shouted on karam because of that

now when speedpatch doesn't ignore syspart you shouted on karam again because he took a year to do so !! also you said softwares which modifies syspart conflicts with speedpatch ? but there are no any

Take it as a piece of advice - leave this person alone and let him modify system configurations that improves N900 response
n900 doesn't have a future anyway
i say if you like it use it
if you don't then don't

@ammyt
you full of Bullsh|t by the way
...and yes get the hell out of here,kid

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

+1 to seker_94

simple question to freemangordon now
does speedpatch fock up the system ?
yes > facepalm
no > leave this boy alone
it does nothing > another facepalm

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

but apt-cache policy gives me

Greetz,

J4ZZ

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

Same for batterypatch, they both rocks:D

Thx Karam

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

Just to chime in, I think you're talking explicitly about battery-patch here, yes? I ask because while I agree that battery-patch has little to add in the way of additional value vs just installing and configuring KP, I do see some potential in speed-patch. Especially the most recent version that cooperates with Nokia's existing cgroup functionality, vs replacing it.

I agree that battery-patch has probably come to the point where it's no longer useful, beyond automating the overclock process. But I don't think the same is true necessarily of speed-patch. Understand, I don't use either on my device. But I also don't run lots of other apps or scripts on my device that others here find useful or advantageous.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem)
 

What?

I was having a conversation, just before you chimed in, with someone who asked if changing pmconfig would be effective while he was using battery-patch. I told him, factually: No, changing pmconfig would not be effective because battery-patch changes the config on the fly.

The post here quotes your post in the K49 thread, where you said:
NOWHERE did mention anything about cgroups, or syspart, or anything related to either. In fact, the only mention of speed-patch at all was that I noted your comment in this thread that the "new speed-patch" had a major change in how it worked. And for that reason, I said there was no way to know if it was still seamlessly removable, as the last version was, until an independent review of the package was done.

So tell me, what did you mean by the quote above? Where did you see me claiming anything about what you had done, or how you had done it? I haven't said a single thing about cgroups or syspart. You put words in my mouth, which is frankly rude and not something I tolerate.

Really? I mentioned in this thread weeks ago that you should be wrapping backup commands with checks to make sure they didn't already exist. We rehashed that again in PM minutes before your latest release, and such code is now in your latest script. (That's a good thing, btw.)

You used a less-efficient method, doing if [ -f x.sp] then exit; else mv x x.sp; fi instead of the suggestion I made of if [ ! -e x.sp] then mv x x.sp; fi, but in essence it's the same thing. Yes, you "did it on your own", but you didn't even have the idea that it needed to be done until I noted it. The fact that previous versions of speed-patch were causing xterm errors is evidence and a direct result of you not doing this type of checking in the past. The fact that the xterm errors existed for as long as they did is evidence that you didn't know how to solve the issue until you were helped with it.

Yes, using all caps, and claiming people said things about you when they did not is childish. Which is exactly what you've done, repeatedly in the past 2 days.

Tell me, which is more childish?

• Responding politely to PM requests for help on scripting while that same person is bashing you in a public forum, any lying about what you said.
• Claiming repeatedly that someone said something they never said, and throwing a hissy fit about it when they call you on it.

Who is being more mature?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

is that with a stock battery as well? i'm going to retest for my own conclusion.

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks --> Everything Needed To Have A Perfect N900
 

Yes, I mean battery-patch is useless, but in the same time, even if speed-patch would have potential, I think that potential is already compromised considering all these endless discussions.

When such disputes exists, maybe a poll about these two patches would bring interesting results. Not sure if a poll inside this forum, or on a specialized site that rejects double voting by IP. Let's vote, and see how many users think the patches are useful and how many people don't. What do you think?

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

i may say that batterypatch functionality is doubtfull
but my batterygraphs prove that it's better is standby and in continues time

speedpatch latest version
simply super !

still these discussion are endless

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

@J4ZZ
i will update 1st post later ;)
but v 5.2 !? this is old

@woody14619
as i said before i didn't mean to rude
but after i saw your post in the previous pages
i got angry a bit
again my apologies

oh and for coding
check speedpatch's posint, preinst, prerm, postrm scripts
you have suggested a better way backing .profile and .bashrc
but i didn't back up any thing
instead i have just injected and deinjected

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

i respect tremendously freeman and woody..i unninstalled karams profiles tks to their warnings in the past and i am glad i did..dont care about bpatch as i am really satisfied with dsp profile..as for spatch..i tried it again..and so far its finally bug free and i must say that as always my phone seems faster...

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Speed Patch + Battery Patch + Tweaks / NEW VERSION OF SPEEDPATCH(now uses syspart config, no more xterminal problem) TESTERS NEEDED
 

btw..sad that this arguments are getting so harsh as the results of them are apparently really good..