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Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by freemangordon (Post 1020704)

OK, to be clear - there is no way SGX driver to be build in scratchbox using source from repository. There are several header files missing and nowhere to be found(at least legally). Like pvr2d.h and such. The same ones stskeeps is maintaining for DE, just an older version. And what drives me crasy is that it seems there is a SGX driver fork made especially for Nokia, as from year now TI Graphics SDK is free to be downloaded. But it is usless for n900.

@stskeeps - are you allowed to share under which license n900 SGX SDK is distributed, and if you are will you share it(I mean the license)?

Ah, that's what you were hinting at. Do you have nokia-closed repository in your scratchbox?

AFAIK the opengles-img-sgx development headers (which are in scratchbox) should have those.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

Sarcasm is not an act of stupidity, it actually is a sharp, bitter, or cutting expression or remark.
I didn't detect any sarcasm In your post, it went off the charts with stupidity though.

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1020660)

You did not even pick up on the sarcasm but never mind eh.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020687)

There's no way but the official route. Are you asking me to breach my contract and do criminal activities, opening myself to civil suit for damages and criminal prosecution?

Are you stupid?

Your proving to me all the time that you and the CSSU team are miles apart and by the looks of it will stay that way.

We have a strange situation on our hands here in that your the MeeGo build and the CSSU are the Maemo build and as you have already stated you will never bend a rule so it will always be a case of Maemo v MeeGo.

The more reason for this Poll.

But you keep coming in this thread and pushing MeeGo and never talk about Maemo at all.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020707)

Ah, that's what you were hinting at. Do you have nokia-closed repository in your scratchbox?

AFAIK the opengles-img-sgx development headers (which are in scratchbox) should have those.

Of course I have the repos enabled, it is a part of scratchbox installation . opengles-img-sgx-dev (and others) are just missing those headers.

My point is - if there is some legal violation not including headers needed to build SGX xorg driver it could be a start point to contact Nokia asking to release at least what should be released. Not talking about legal actions or so. But once communication channel established it could ease further requests.

EDIT: Wil you answer my question re SGX SDK license, please?

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1020713)

Your proving to me all the time that you and the CSSU team are miles apart and by the looks if it will stay that way.

We have a strange situation on our hands here in that your the MeeGo build and the CSSU are the Maemo build and as you have already stated you will never bend a rule so it will always be a case of Maemo v MeeGo.

The more reason for this Poll.

You are quickly approaching the peak of mt. idiot. If you want someone to break the law then feel free to do it yourself. In the meanwhile shut up.

Stskeeps is being civil despite your constant *****ing, moaning and attacking. Show some respect.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by ScottishDuck (Post 1020715)

Between you and Daneel your attacking is more and more obvious.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1020717)

Between you and Daneel your attacking is more and more obvious.

I'm attacking you because you are demanding a developer break the law. It is absurd. You are absurd. This thread is absurd.

On top of it all you avoid responding to any valid criticism. You're either deluded or butthurt, probably both.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

Did you figure that out on your own? I though my statement about your unlimited capacity for incapacity possessed a subtle quality that was only revealed to the most observant of minds, i guess i underestimated you.

Please accept my apologies.

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Originally Posted by abill_uk (Post 1020717)

Between you and Daneel your attacking is more and more obvious.

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

The title of this thread is PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community and now we have a full blown MeeGo discussion going on here so may i remind everyone to please stay on topic?..

Re: PETITION to Nokia to release the full source code of the Maemo OS to this Community.

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* BME, redistributable binary blob

Ha!

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* TI OMAP3 SGX drivers, userland, redistributable binary blobs, matches with a kernel side driver that's fairly OK to forward port.

Yes for this we have to ask TI politely.

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* Misc calibration tools for wlan, redistributable binary blobs, only really depending on a WLAN driver kernel interface

This sounds fishy.

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* PulseAudio algorithms for 3GPP compliance, redistributable binary blobs (you won't get good sound without this)

Not good if you plan to use your phone as communication device

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* Xorg driver for SGX, open source, but links to closed source SGX drivers (PVR2D interface, etc)

As useful as a broken window

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* Open source ofono/telephony driver and pulseaudio modules for speech communication with modem

Are both driver and modules open source, or just driver?

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* Camera firmware, open source (it's really just register poking). Basic camera features work without blobs.

Here we go again.

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Originally Posted by Stskeeps (Post 1020667)

* Upcoming: blobs for accessing AGPS and almost Maemo5-quality camera usage.

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For each of the closed source bits, we're actively exploring opportunities how to 1) build these in the future in case it's needed and 2) how to avoid situations where they cease to work.

Here is the best choice: open specification or/and release existing drivers under GPL. Any other option turns us into beggars.

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As said above, rest of platform is OSS, including applications. You won't easily find sane hardware that doesn't in some way require closed blobs on ARM side. And don't say the Freerunner.

I say Neo Freerunner, except for the Glamo.

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Given that the blobs exist and they are redistributable and usable, it's a better situation than not having them at all.

Are you sure these binary redistributables are GPL compliant?