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Rauha 2011-06-09 08:55
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by momcilo (Post 1025629)
I wish I could follow stocks in realtime.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:NOK

Nothing new since yesterday there.
I think CTO departure will further dent the stocks.
Almost real time price, bid volumes, order depth and list of latest trades.

http://www.nasdaqomxnordic.com/share...ument=HEX24311

Rugoz 2011-06-09 09:34
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
People should not read too much into market capitalisation, its just one of many variables to determine the real value of a company.

9000 2011-06-09 10:04
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rugoz (Post 1025667)
People should not read too much into market capitalisation, its just one of many variables to determine the real value of a company.
Finally, I find someone here who can differentiate between market cap and firm value.

Glad to know you.

govprog 2011-06-09 11:03
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick (Post 1020100)
No new anything shown that's a blockbuster seller, a reduced presence in regards to their market share being somewhere around it was in 1998 or so, the public dropping of MeeGo for the lesser liked and bought (out of Android and iOS options) WP7... yeah.

No surprise here.
Maybe you would like to take a look at the google's stock as well?
EDIT:Added the link:http://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE%3AGOOG (Choose the Year till date option.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 9000 (Post 1025682)
Finally, I find someone here who can differentiate between market cap and firm value.

Glad to know you.
Yeah. I mean so. Market share is not the most important factor to judge about the company's value.

Stonik 2011-06-09 11:26
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Elop is acutally a genius.

A real businessman doesn't sell a single phone once in a while - one by one. He sells the whole company at once. Smart!

bobh 2011-06-09 11:31
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cBeam (Post 1025519)
yeah, this is where Steven Elop, current CEO of Nokia stated that he wishes that HTC and Samsung will be successful with Windows Phone.
Well, he's not wrong, in the sense that Nokia has hitched their wagon WP. If WP fails, then Nokia does too. So of course Nokia wants it to succeed. Success will mean that other hardware makers will want to use it too.

The best possible result here is that Nokia gets to be just another Microsoft OEM. Hopefully the biggest. They are shooting to be the Dell of phones. Which I guess is better than being bankrupt, but it isn't exactly an exciting future either. They will have to live on small profit margins and pretty much jettison any hope of doing serious R&D.

lohner 2011-06-09 12:27
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh (Post 1025720)
Well, he's not wrong, ...
He is still working for Microsoft it seems tough...

I still don't get why WP7 is so much better for Nokia than Android would have been.

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobh (Post 1025720)
The best possible result here is that Nokia gets to be just another Microsoft OEM.
Why not join the bigger Android community than the without-Nokia-already-dead WP7 community with all this talk about being reduced to an OEM?

9000 2011-06-09 13:05
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stonik (Post 1025719)
Elop is acutally a genius.

A real businessman doesn't sell a single phone once in a while - one by one. He sells the whole company at once. Smart!
Yep, just like he sold the entire company to Adobe months after he assumed duty as a CEO of Macromedia.

He's a real expert in betraying...I meant selling his company.
http://dilbert.com/dyn/str_strip/000...2799.strip.gif

Image source: http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1998-06-27/

cBeam 2011-06-09 18:44
Re: Nokia shares dive after sales warning
 
Finally an article that states that the worst might be over for NOK shareholders. Some good numbers there.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/2741...y?source=yahoo

The author is long NOK, so he either sees the rosy side or puts his money where his mouth is.

Texrat 2011-06-09 19:11
Re: CEO of which corporation?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cBeam (Post 1025180)
Trivia question of the day:

Who said this in a keynote at Qualcomm’s Uplinq?

"The point though is that I want Peter Chou, CEO of HTC, to be successful with Windows Phone. I want G.S. Choi at Samsung to be successful with Windows Phone."

[quote slightly edited for name and function of referred to persons]

a) Steve Ballmer, CEO of Microsoft
b) Larry Page, CEO of Google
c) Steve Jobs, Apple dude
d) Stephen Elop, CEO of Nokia
I'm afraid to answer...


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