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Joseph.skb 2011-06-16 03:18

Nokia Morph
 
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This might just revolutionalize the mobilephone/MID industry and save Nokia...it's kinda interesting and people might not care if it's Meego or Symbian?

Nokia pushing Graphene as super-material of the future

AMAZING: Nokia Morph in Phone Mode. Graphene is a thin, light, super-strong, flexible material that may be the key to developing revolutionary devices. - AFP/Relaxnews

Graphene is a super-material that Nokia believes will revolutionise gadgets and "change the world." Nokia explains, "Graphene is an allotrope of carbon and its 2D structure measures just one atom thick.

While being thin, it's the strongest material ever tested, having a breaking strength 200 times greater than steel and is also the lightest material ever, best intrinsic conductor and super-flexible, too. It's predicted to replace silicon as the base for all electronics."

This thin, light, super-strong, flexible material may be the key to developing revolutionary devices, such as Nokia's "Morph," that up until now have only been envisioned as far-fetched concepts.

"We're not just talking about mobile phones here, we're talking about the technology in its vastness. Once the technology exists, your TV could - in theory - just be unrolled and pasted to your living room wall, like a roll of wallpaper," adds Nokia in a June 14 post on its Conversations blog.

While the possibilities for Graphene-based gadgets are mind-boggling there is still a lot of research to be done.

Nokia is teaming up with four Nobel laureates: Dr Andrea Gelm, Dr Konstantin Novoselov, Dr K. von Klitzing and Dr A. Fert to further the technology as part of the Graphene Flagship programme.

The Chalmers University of Technology, the University of Manchester, the University of Lancaster, the University of Cambridge, AMO Gmbh, the Catalan institute of Nanotechnology, the Italian research council, and the European Science foundation will also be involved in the programme.

The Graphene Flagship programme was launched on May 4 in Budapest with the goal of bringing "this most-promising material to the real-world." It is part of an ambitious science-driven, research initiative in the EU called the Future and Emerging Technology (FET) Flagships project. A video of Nokia's Morph concept can be seen here: youtu.be/IX-gTobCJHs.

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www.graphene-flagship.eu/GF/index.php

F2thaK 2011-06-16 04:02

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cool, but I cant say I like it much

fasza2 2011-06-16 04:11

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Exciting suff thanks for sharing.

jperez2009 2011-06-16 07:51

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Seen it before, a long time ago. Nothing new and it's not real. Not even as concept.

OVK 2011-06-16 07:56

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Originally Posted by jperez2009 (Post 1030051)
Seen it before, a long time ago. Nothing new and it's not real. Not even as concept.

This is not about Nokia Morph as a device. The thing is about the research (on materials and on manufacturing methods) that is needed for these types of devices to become reality.

Joseph.skb 2011-06-16 12:11

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Originally Posted by OVK (Post 1030055)
This is not about Nokia Morph as a device. The thing is about the research (on materials and on manufacturing methods) that is needed for these types of devices to become reality.

Nokia needs to imagine how to create a market for it. If it's market as just another internet-smartphone or iPad competition ... then waste of the R&D.

tissot 2011-06-16 12:29

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Just to clear it up that concept is from early 2008.

Not to break the dreaming session but back in 2006 Nokia had 2 videos showing all TS UI that Nokia said to be the future. Well that was ineed true and similar UI was then released, by Apple year later. Nokia had nothing and started building TS platform on AVKON that was not meant for TS use.

What i'm saying is that don't get carried away with these things. They rarely come to fruition in a time frame for you to get interested or at all. Like Nokia's haptikos already demoed on 700 and N800 back in 2007

I hope Elop makes better use if that industries highest R&D pool. His first comments about Nokia not using it's assets and being surprised just how much interesting stuff there is in Nokia's labs hopefully hint to that direction. I wanna have that Aeon damn it! HW wise making that real should not even be a problem these days.

OVK 2011-06-16 12:30

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Originally Posted by Joseph.skb (Post 1030202)
Nokia needs to imagine how to create a market for it. If it's market as just another internet-smartphone or iPad competition ... then waste of the R&D.

Not that either. This is about using new materials (=graphene in this specific case) and new manufacturing methods in "old types of devices" as well as enabling new types of devices (=Morph and even more advanced things).

This is also not just about Nokia. They have gathered a huge network to work on this.

Joseph.skb 2011-06-17 01:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1030212)
Just to clear it up that concept is from early 2008.

Not to break the dreaming session but back in 2006 Nokia had 2 videos showing all TS UI that Nokia said to be the future. Well that was ineed true and similar UI was then released, by Apple year later. Nokia had nothing and started building TS platform on AVKON that was not meant for TS use.

What i'm saying is that don't get carried away with these things. They rarely come to fruition in a time frame for you to get interested or at all. Like Nokia's haptikos already demoed on 700 and N800 back in 2007

I hope Elop makes better use if that industries highest R&D pool. His first comments about Nokia not using it's assets and being surprised just how much interesting stuff there is in Nokia's labs hopefully hint to that direction. I wanna have that Aeon damn it! HW wise making that real should not even be a problem these days.

Thanks for the clarification...but it was the first time seeing it for me.

kingoddball 2011-06-17 02:24

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That is cool. Design sucks... Would cut me open in my pocket!

Radicalz38 2011-06-17 02:43

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Hmm seems too fragile for me... Also I don't think thats too realisic to just fold it. Let's say they have managed to get that graphene successfully. Can that graphene become also a ram, rom, graphics card, processor, transmit/recieve bluetooth, wifi, do network transaction etc.? If not then I don't see any portability in that thing at all.

jo21 2011-06-17 03:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1030212)
Just to clear it up that concept is from early 2008.

Not to break the dreaming session but back in 2006 Nokia had 2 videos showing all TS UI that Nokia said to be the future. Well that was ineed true and similar UI was then released, by Apple year later. Nokia had nothing and started building TS platform on AVKON that was not meant for TS use.

What i'm saying is that don't get carried away with these things. They rarely come to fruition in a time frame for you to get interested or at all. Like Nokia's haptikos already demoed on 700 and N800 back in 2007

I hope Elop makes better use if that industries highest R&D pool. His first comments about Nokia not using it's assets and being surprised just how much interesting stuff there is in Nokia's labs hopefully hint to that direction. I wanna have that Aeon damn it! HW wise making that real should not even be a problem these days.

because s90 NEVER happen in, do ur research better kid.

apple didnt invent anything they just follow LG prada game.

nokia videos from 2006 are still way more advanced than what apple is showing TODAY.
its a total customisable touch screen ui.

Rauha 2011-06-17 05:16

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Originally Posted by Radicalz38 (Post 1030606)
Hmm seems too fragile for me... Also I don't think thats too realisic to just fold it. Let's say they have managed to get that graphene successfully. Can that graphene become also a ram, rom, graphics card, processor, transmit/recieve bluetooth, wifi, do network transaction etc.? If not then I don't see any portability in that thing at all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOJ2QSioTA0

cjp 2011-06-17 06:10

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I don't get how the Morph concept and the graphene rumour have anything to do with each other.

Wow people really put 2 and X together to form whatever they want :D

OVK 2011-06-17 07:04

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Originally Posted by cjp (Post 1030654)
I don't get how the Morph concept and the graphene rumour have anything to do with each other.

Wow people really put 2 and X together to form whatever they want :D

In the first post there is link to this page: http://www.graphene-flagship.eu/GF/index.php

In that page there is a link to this document: http://www.phantomsnet.net/files/Gra...al18052011.pdf

This document (one of the authors is the leader of Nokia research in Europe) states among other things the following: "Without the new materials, i.e. new structures enabled by the novel materials and manufacturing methods it would be impossible to build Morph-like devices. Graphene has an important role in different components of the new device and the ecosystem needed to make the gateway and context awareness possible in an energy efficient way."

Now, obviously this does not mean that "Morph is coming!". What it does mean is that the Morph concept is used to evaluate what kinds of materials are needed for new kinds of devices: you want to have a foldable, bendable phone - What do you need to build it?

Joseph.skb 2011-06-17 07:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cjp (Post 1030654)
I don't get how the Morph concept and the graphene rumour have anything to do with each other.

Wow people really put 2 and X together to form whatever they want :D

I think every great devices was created by putting 2 and X together. Even Steve Job's presentation on the iPads started with iPhone and iMac.


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