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Unless it is a failure, in which case it harms the MeeGo reputation instead?

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I don't think so, at least not in a technical sense. The prevailing sentiment in the past was that you could not make a polished cellphone attractive to the average consumer using of GNU/Linux. Similar doubts were also extended with respect to MeeGo. If nothing else, the N9 dispels such notions. If you mean that MeeGo's reputation will be hurt if sales of the N9 are low, then I think not either because the low sales can be chalked up one or more of several other circumstances peculiar to the N9 product.

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Which it is not, as per the various hands-on reviews availlable on numerous tech blogs.


Also as a general note, can people please stop stating one's opinion more than 10 times per thread?
Forums are non volatile media, it's fine writing things just once.

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Inflated price? How can you know this when the price hasn't been announced yet?

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Instead of long press, it should be a sofware button called "close apps", that would bring the red box mode. it could be in the same position of the "close all" button.

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You know for once Engadget published an article that I think encapsulates how many of us feel at how Nokia has treated MeeGo and our community with regards to the N9

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/e...ot-be-serious/

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Interesting editorial indeed. Looks like the N9 has the potential to change hearts.... ;)

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That would be better than a long press, but the Maemo 5 way wasn't/isn't broken.

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The moment I saw that I was like, what? Really?

It must be intentional, though (perhaps all the swiping accidentally closed running apps?), since otherwise those two buttons on the bottom (Close all) wouldn't be there, and because this is (right?) really an evolved task manager from Maemo 5.

Something has to be done about that, though. Before release.

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That won't help the bulk of us, since they canned it on a "bad" hinge.

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I agree with that article

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The issue is whether more customers would respond to the term "polycarbonate unibody" or "removable battery". My contention is that most customers won't know what "polycarbonate unibody" means. My contention is that they will understand what "removable battery" means.

This is an elementary marketing question. The answer is obvious.

BTW: What is polycarbonate and why is it good? No fair looking it up.

Re: N9: It's finally here
 

someone mentioned that the n9 has the hardware for FM receiver and transmitter, but lacks software for that. have to wait for an official answer or is there anybody who knows for sure.

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Guess: A composite of plastic and metal. Plastic, but made with a mix of carbon fibers/molecules/atoms/whatever. (Half carbon half plastic)

Did I guess correctly? Do I win an N950? :D

EDIT: Guess: It's good because it's uber strong, probably cheap to produce and easy to mold, and (judging from the reviews) doesn't feel like metal to the touch (probably withstands more extreme temperatures).

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It is plastic, and I don't know if it's good or not.

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polycarbonate is basically just really tough and light plastic. if the layer above the screen is all in the same piece too, this phone will be pretty indestructible(they make bulletproof windows out of polycarbonate, for example)

It will laso be very lightweight and also cheaper to manufacture than glass and steel

also, it precludes the need for plastic end caps like in nokia other metal phones

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Just looked it up in wikipedia and wish I hadn't (I get depressed when I read things I understood in high school and am clueless about now, like chemistry).

On a side note, I found this interesting (it applies to food containers):

Bisphenol A appeared to be released from polycarbonate animal cages into water at room temperature and it may have been responsible for enlargement of the reproductive organs of female mice.

So don't lick your N9's!!!

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This sober article says:

This must be a mistake. Isn't that thing on the front-bottom-right a camera?

But it also mentions USB OTG, so...

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The one piece polycarbonate plastic allows for really great antennas but it also feels expensive in the hand
read here:
http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...signers-story/

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I hope this gets relayed to them before launch...
Is there some formal way to lodge some feedback so they definitely "notice".

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maybe it's just a proximity sensor or such?

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Camera: 8Mpix auto-focus Carl Zeiss, wide-angle
lens, 2x LED flash, Video capturing MPEG-4 SP
720p @ 30fps, 2nd camera for video calls

http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/up...data-sheet.pdf

But no specs?

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No there's def. front-facing cam, see this
http://shootspeak.com/2011/06/21/in-...ands-on-video/
I hope they're right about OTG...

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It's good for freezing Han Solo

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When marketting will be about what people know it won't really be marketting anymore.
I agree that much more people will understand "removable battery" is than "polycarbonate unibody".
Yet I'm ready to bet that the second sells more, because it sounds cool.
So it's not that obvious.

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on nokia official sites there is no word about usb-otg, just this: Use as USB mass memory device for storing photos, documents and more

but as is said before, maybe it needs a firmware update to support that feature (along with FM-Radio)

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Yup, Nokia sure one-upped Apple (or should that be "one-downed Apple") by having even fewer buttons, in fact, none.

It reminds me of this great Onion article, a diatribe by the CEO of Gillette telling his engineering force to get with it and design a FIVE-BLADE razor now that Schick has come out with a four-bladed razor, even if they have to squeeze that fifth little blade onto the razor perpendicular to the other four blades!

EDIT: The Onion link should work now.

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Okay small thing but again it's in the details.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn9QeVLXSY#t=1m42s

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Thanks for the link; that's pretty cool.

I just want to quickly remind people how to point to timestamps in youtube. Just add the following to the URL:

#t=m<minutes>s<seconds>

So, your link would look like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIn9QeVLXSY#t=1m44s

Thanks again.

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Thanks! Was just thinking of how it was done yesterday, but wasn't bothered to google.... yes i'm lazy.

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Nothing is terribly wrong on the N900, but my E7 is a lot quicker at tracking the location. And I'd prefer not to see a step back there if I get an N9 as my main phone.

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Coming on Sep 23rd?

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/n...-awkwardly-tr/

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Me too...And I wonder why the UI team has not evolved the idea of swipe here as well? I can imagine this like when you flick/swipe the application up it closes. This can work both in app window and in task manager. Just flick it to top and it is closed.
I think swiping/flicking motions can be used extensively in UI thus leaving obsolete SW button out...Think of the great way the Maemo5 is acting - just touch screen outside the focused area and the focused element hides. No need for back or close button.

Re: N9: It's finally here
 

webos has this swipe up action to close apps, works well. I like it

Re: N9: It's finally here
 

This is prob posted already, but nice article from Engadget, yes.... i said Engadget.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/22/e...ot-be-serious/

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Or maybe a double, perhaps even a triple tap on the app in task manager so it closes? I'm not familiar with how precise the swiping is (but I assume it's lenient in interpretation because of all the swiping), could some of you hands-on people tell us? Thanks.

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I have no idea when Nokia is going to throw away the support for Meego !!

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Why not just trace a X over the app window to close it?
That to me would be very intuitive providing the thumbnails were never smaller than a reasonable size.

Do we know if the task manager grid can be re-arranged?

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If true that's soooo ridiculously late it's not funny.
I simply don't believe it wasn't possible for it to be in the publics hand's "now", if not mths ago.
Or at the very latest, 1mth from now....

It's gunna have a seriously hard time getting traction because the iP5 will prolly be out round then too.
And it prolly only just beats the iP4, doubt it will have a chance against the iP5.
They better price it cheaply (Elop won't) or there's a strong chance they're screwed, yet again.

This is being deliberately stalled by Elop & co, there's no other way to explain it.
H-M has been rock-slid for months & months, & hw prototyping is always in place, long before the sw solidifies.

Frack Nokia!!!!!!!!!!!! FTL!! :(