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For all the geeks who are infested with spec induced blindness, this paragraph from endgadget says it all:

"The N9's big appeal is about the overall user experience, which is far less time-sensitive than a spec-centric device like the latest Android superphone. Even if it ships a few months from now, the N9 won't feel out of date (its OMAP3630 processor is already dated, showing just how refined and frugal the software on board is) and is still likely to offer an experience that's unique to Nokia."

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^
Yes I read that but as wonderful as the UI & the overall experience may be...
it needs time to gain acceptance in the market w/o the intense brightness of the iP5 taking away most of the gloss :(
It's simply bs that it wasn't possible for to be distributed worldwide by now, or a the very least, 1mth from now.

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If its ships in september nokia has to make sure pricing is adequate. Approx. 400$ would be ok.

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ahtisaari Quote:

So there are two micks on the device. I have no clue how they managed to squeeez two fully grown men in there but I must admit well that must be "supernatural"

OH wait I found them. One is carefully concealed above the Dual LED flash, yes look closley, that's right - the little notch above the flash is in fact where mick 1 is & mick 2 is hidden behind the loudspeaker!! -#mic get it?!!

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Forbes is saying it will ship in a month
http://blogs.forbes.com/parmyolson/2...-phone-the-n9/

That talk about Sweden release date was about carrier so i hope it's wrong or is coming later on because we are talking about carrier here.

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Man, InternetTabletTalk has sure gotten very mean-spirited lately after since the name change. I also see the name change and change of venue did about as much good as Sci-Fi Channel's name change to the sissy--er, Syfy Channel. :) What a shame and missed opportunity for capturing a tablet market YEARS ahead of everyone else with a community that was far more optimistic and helpful at the time. I don't think Nokia did anyone, themselves included, any good with moving away from tablets and portable computing.

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Well I like most others have been waiting for Nokia's next big lick and well not surprising the phone looks well just like a phone and the software isn't really what you would call way ahead in its looks.. Interaction with this bad boy will confirm my fears, so until I can get my hand on one to test it well I'll reserve any other comment other than no HDMI out!!! No Keyboard!!! 3 home screens!!! I got nine on my N900 and I need them all !!!.

Nokia were did it all go wrong???? thought you said you were listening to users?. Apple must be laughing out loud... Watch their next move.

Maemo and Meego will become strictly for developers and gadget guys and girls...

Apple will give the masses what they want all at the same time not in areas across the world one at a time and you Nokia will flat line....

Sorry you missed the boat again... and this time their is no return..

Loz :-(

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For those interested, there is an article from the N9/950 unveiling in Prague yesterday, by Openmobility:
http://www.openmobility.cz/reportaze...ia-n9-s-meego/
The text is all in Czech, but there are some nice pictures like:

• N950 vs N900 + mugen battery
• N9 and N950 side by side
• N9 About screen
• sd/sim slot details
• moving launcher icons
• various apps (battery status, help, weather)

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Iphone barely has one screen! Just the normal screen and the app list. They don't give the people what they want.

Apple gives the people what makes them the most profit and what **they** think the users need.

Currently I don't like N9 software seems a simplistic compared with my N900 - but it's open source so should not be too to tweak it.

Nokia appears to be on the right track - i think you are disappointed because the N9 is clearly a mass market device unlike the N900.

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It's yet to be seen if it'll be a mass-marketed device. I mean, that takes advertising as well as shipments and support in the larger markets.

So far, no UK, US, Germany, France, Spain and other markets have been slated to explicitly get the N9.

Mass-marketed device? Not yet.

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That is a well known contentious point. I don't want to discuss it, just mention that there will at least be a hackable way of solving this issue for those who really care about it.

Utopia situation obviously would be never having to close anything, which is actually true for WP7 and co (due to suspension). N9 is already close with real multitasking, so that's something.

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It makes me wonder how they output the screen in use to the big screen in those demo videos and pictures.
ie http://www.openmobility.cz/wp-conten...6/IMG_5769.jpg

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Maybe the same way the N900 does.

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thanks for this nice pic, I like it !!!

http://www.openmobility.cz/wp-conten.../IMG_58091.jpg

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Tablets will come, but it will be Intel and Windows 8 - if they still are fashionable by then. Besides, I don't really see the huge difference between the N800 and the N9 in terms of form factor and use cases. A tablet is for browsing, and so is the N9, but the N9 is also a phone.

On a side note, I actually got infraction points for being mean to BadaPrada and Danramos in this very thread LOL :D

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Screw you, Negatron Dan. Hope your Galaxy Tab suffers from electronic bulimia or something.

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That! Right there!

This is EXACTLY what I have been honing in on and repeatedly pointing out--there is nothing compelling and different about this device that would make anyone, casual phone user or geek alike, want to move to an N9 from anything else. The Maemo/MeeGo people didn't want this. The iPhone/Android people won't abandon their platform for this. What's compelling enough to make anyone want to buy this? I keep asking, "What do you like this about this handset?" but none of the answers so far make me feel that this is an incredible device I must have over anything else out there.

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request namechange to troll.maemo.org \o/

not just this post, but it's quite emblematic of the current mood

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I think you are missing the point. The device is clearly a child of N900, and is meant to sell and be for the masses. That is what the whole point of N9 is! It is supposed to attract the masses to what we love about N900, now harnessed under the hood of N9. Let me repeat, IT IS SUPPOSED TO ATTRACT MASSES TO THE USER EXPERIENCE THAT WE LOVE IN N900. (masses want monoblock device, not hwkb device).

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You seem to confuse answers which make you feel "that this is an incredible device" with what everyone else thinks.

The reaction I've seen does not suggest "the Maemo/MeeGo people" nor the "iPhone/Android" "don't want this". We get that you don't, but then lots of people here said that about the N810 ("the stylus is too small," "the speakers don't face forwrd," "the styling's not as good") and the N900 ("the keyboard is too small," "no directional pad," "the screen is too small," "the interface is too different," "no cancel button on dialogues," "I don't want a phone") as well.

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It depends on the price. It got about the same specs as my now 1 year old (since launch) Samsung Wave. The UI on the N9, although cooler and much more ingenious, does not look faster or smoother than the Wave, but the N9 includes much more functionality in terms of (usable and value adding) apps. The wave is still popular, but that is mostly due to the price and the fact that no better Bada phones has entered the market.

All in all, it is about the same ballpark as the Wave, and must be priced in the same ballpark around 300 €

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This phone is a toy for kids. Not a device for real men ;)

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The article doesn't say how they did get the picture on the screen here, but it says it has the same video output as N900.

It also says they didn't give an exact launch date, but it is expected to arrive in Czech Republic by the end of the year... (What the hell, so late?)

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Should be high up on your list then :D:D:D:D:D:D

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Not going to answer such girlish talk as it only leads to yet more infraction points :eek:

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Who are you to speak so broadly, Dan? You're overlooking so many cases where someone would indeed feel compelled to move from their current device to this one. Do I really need to name some?

Looks to me like just another rank rush to negativism without thinking it through first. How's that limb holding up?

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go back to your pacifier, you're not old enough for it! :D

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N900 is definitely not a phone or a tablet that most people will like it, there are a lot of people who do like and pretty much all of them hang around this forum either to see what is the next thing comming out of community which will make n900 a good phone or a tablet, its a hand held device that is so open that you can do whatever you like and Maemo is efficient enough to run on a 600Mhz CPU without really grinding down and, it is capable of doing so many things that I will not repeat here as you all know it better than myself. N900 is still not for masses, I was offered a really good price by a dude for this phone but I didn't sell because I thought he would curse me for selling a phone that he couldn't operate, it may be technologically most advanced phone but for end users it lags in almost all aspects including basic phone functionalities....... its a developer's delight....... why were we so looking forward to N9 when n900 is perfect? because we were expecting something that is probably going to be N900 plus more , did n9 live upto expectations ..... leave it you all or should I say 'time will tell'..... for me on the face of it it looks just another phone on the market which can possibly Nokia give the volume that it is trying to chase ....

.......for now I'd say - long live Maemo long live n900.

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i am so glad too see they help killing adobe shitty flash it must die anyway.

I am so possitive about it only has 1Ghz and old cpu this means the linux kernel and drivers has been tested for a longtime and also is optimized. Not like the new crapy android that needs dualCore to even run smootly.

I am also glad it has one of the fastest mobilecameras.

I am glad most of the core OS is opensource and real linux not some bloated java in top of it.

I am not that possitive it has no hwkbd but in the same time I can understand why, the UI is more optimized for portrait and one hand soo I thinks this is a awesome device even for me as a geek :D

Would be great if it has usbhdmi but aleast it has tvout.


No I only have too wait atleast three months to get one in my hand (rumors comes from swedish phoneoperators 23 sept :(

Re: N9: It's finally here
 

And look at that! Short!y after the N900 hit the streets, phones with bigger screens and tablets started making the N900 look like a loser. Soon after this site changed its name to Maemo. Whatever happened to Maemo and tablets and bigger screens?

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300 Euro != $660 USD

It's gonna be overpriced initially. This is Nokia. Only company worse at pricing anything is Sony.

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The big question is how open is this device and the software that runs it. Is it as hackable as the N900?
I read somewhere that is does have USB OTG. But incase it has not, is it possible to hack it to make it possible like on the N900? Is the calendar still closed source? Phone app?

And I see that not all applications work in landscape mode. Will it be possible to make that happen? That is one of the features that I like most on the N900. It is not like you can use any of these big screen devices one handed without moving your hand awkwardly or use the other hand to make multi-point gestures.

Though I like the device and will be buying it when is comes out, I will keep my N900 around. For the lulz :-)

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Dream on. Judging by the launch prices of recent Nokia devices, I'd expect it to be closer to 500 euros. That won't stop me from buying one on release day, though. :D

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But _we_ need phone like this... Customers want to pay for these toys and after that we get more Meego-equipment, later... If N9 would come success?

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Ya all have to buy all the n9s, I just sunk some money into NOKIA stock...

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Make sure to cash in before Nokia World b/c as soon as elops shouts heres our WP7 they will sink again lol

Re: N9: It's finally here
 

the swipe UI and some drivers and nokia apps is closed same as in the N900 case.

They already has started plans for CE version

http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?...3&postcount=33

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FIXED IN FREM--er, HARMA---er...

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The N9 is so bloody good that even danramos is back on the block. :D
My tribute: http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...&postcount=553

I say screw the friggin hwkb, hopefully Nokia will continue to make meego tablets with hwkb if the N9 is succesful.

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some interesting stuff found by tmo member kozzi (http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...5&postcount=16)

http://irclogs.meego.com/meetbot/mee...10.59.log.html


11:12:45 <alterego> Does it have fmtx?
11:13:02 <msugano> graphics is the top priority yes.
11:13:06 <jukkaeklund> msugano, thanks for the update on that
11:13:17 <msugano> alterego: i was only following the driver name.
11:13:23 <alterego> msugano: okay,
11:13:26 <msugano> the name implies it should have the rx or tx
11:13:37 <msugano> (the driver name)
11:13:43 <jukkaeklund> so might be that it can be enabled in meego..
11:13:44 <alterego> Hah
11:14:18 <jukkaeklund> on the N9, we could some fun stuff with enabling USB host mode to have keyboard etc.
11:14:22 <Sage> msugano: what about the battery management?
11:14:35 <alterego> jukkaeklund: it has hostmode?!
11:14:47 <jukkaeklund> alterego, not right now but I think the HW has
11:14:48 <msugano> battery management was not on my list. any concerns?
11:14:53 <alterego> I know it's pretty much the same SoC (updated obviously)
11:14:55 <leinir> alterego: the word is likely "not officially"