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erzhik 2011-10-26 15:29

Re: N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!
 
Good thing I didn't get the black N9 yet. I am going to wait till white version arrives, and given it's 64GB, it will be perfect. After that, I am thinking of getting Lumia 800 as well.

afaq 2011-10-26 15:29

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Share your thoughts Shallimus when you get more play time out of it.

Careful cutting your SIM, as its very possibly to ruin a SIM if you dont measure properly.

asianmoomoo 2011-10-26 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shallimus (Post 1114025)
N9 64GB now in my hand!
Ordered from Negri on Mon evening, left HK Tuesday morning, with me Wednesday morning. Not bad at all. No customs fee or brokerage nonsense either (no idea why, but I'm not complaining). Now I need to get SIM chopped. Also need to flash the device once a generic image is available, because it says 'StarHub' everywhere (a Singapore network - I assume this device was supposed to end up in Singapore).

First impressions: so freakin' shiny. Capactive screen: weird, but not bad. VKBD: surprisingly easy, given I've never used one before for more than a few minutes and have been avoiding them for years.

for those who ordered from Negri...do all the N9 have "Starhub"everywhere?

tissot 2011-10-26 15:47

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Ok this is awesome. Nokia demoing flexible smartphones in Nokia World.
http://nokiagadgets.com/wp-content/u...lecomncpet.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xL7ASARTlJI

I wonder what kind of OS it's running?

http://nokiagadgets.com/2011/10/26/n...le-smartphone/
http://www.slashgear.com/nokia-kinet...s-on-26191027/

http://cdn.slashgear.com/wp-content/..._concept_3.jpg

godofcookery 2011-10-26 18:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by shallimus (Post 1114025)
N9 64GB now in my hand!
Ordered from Negri on Mon evening, left HK Tuesday morning, with me Wednesday morning. Not bad at all. No customs fee or brokerage nonsense either (no idea why, but I'm not complaining). Now I need to get SIM chopped. Also need to flash the device once a generic image is available, because it says 'StarHub' everywhere (a Singapore network - I assume this device was supposed to end up in Singapore).

First impressions: so freakin' shiny. Capactive screen: weird, but not bad. VKBD: surprisingly easy, given I've never used one before for more than a few minutes and have been avoiding them for years.

can you go into some detail when you say StarHub everywhere? maybe post a pic? :)

Dave999 2011-10-26 18:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1114049)
Ok this is awesome. Nokia demoing flexible smartphones in Nokia World.
http://nokiagadgets.com/wp-content/u...lecomncpet.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=xL7ASARTlJI

...

I like his answer on 3 to 6 months (0:45)...Its like he is saying: Are you stupid. No way! :D

Pebby 2011-10-26 18:43

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Our precious is here. Sorry for the poor pictures, shooting them on a 6 year old dumbphone. I ordered via Negri on Monday, and it came today.

http://pebby.net/pebby/n9_1.jpg
http://pebby.net/pebby/n9_2.jpg

I'm working now, but I'll report some more info as soon as I get a chance to play with it a bit. I'll also have to cut/replace my SIM to actually test all the phone stuff.

Joao 2011-10-26 19:15

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saw this?

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...ftware-update/

caa 2011-10-26 19:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Joao (Post 1114161)


I notice that press release mentioned 'London, United Kingdom' and is presumably one of the Nokia World announcements.

However, as the handset isn't even officially available in the UK, this seems slightly strange. I wonder if this means Nokia will sell the white version in the UK, or just that it was unfortunately announced in the UK (where it will not be sold)?

unfuccwittable 2011-10-26 20:01

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so glad I didn't pull the trigger on the black 64GB I was eyeing from Malaysia. White will be certainly worth the wait. My N900 can hold up until then.

tissot 2011-10-26 20:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by caa (Post 1114183)
I notice that press release mentioned 'London, United Kingdom' and is presumably one of the Nokia World announcements.

However, as the handset isn't even officially available in the UK, this seems slightly strange. I wonder if this means Nokia will sell the white version in the UK, or just that it was unfortunately announced in the UK (where it will not be sold)?

Especially as the Windows Phones are coming out in UK in matter of a week or two, certainly the latter.
Nokia showed the white N9 in Nokia World where it has it's own booth. Nokia World isn't afterall country specific with people attending from tens of different countries.

jalyst 2011-10-26 20:21

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apparently one can see lotsa pr1.1 stuff here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Mmex...layer_embedded

asianmoomoo 2011-10-26 20:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebby (Post 1114136)
Our precious is here. Sorry for the poor pictures, shooting them on a 6 year old dumbphone. I ordered via Negri on Monday, and it came today.

http://pebby.net/pebby/n9_1.jpg
http://pebby.net/pebby/n9_2.jpg

I'm working now, but I'll report some more info as soon as I get a chance to play with it a bit. I'll also have to cut/replace my SIM to actually test all the phone stuff.

is yours made in china? and is it branded by a cellular company from overseas?

Pebby 2011-10-26 20:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asianmoomoo (Post 1114212)
is yours made in china? and is it branded by a cellular company from overseas?

The protective plastic wrapping it came in and SIM tray have stickers that say 'made in china,' and, thus far, I have noticed no branding. If you want me to look anywhere in particular, let me know, and I'll check it out.

Edit: Just a bit of additional info (which also makes it sound like it's definitely meant for sale in SE Asia/Australia) - the warranty booklet that came with it says this: "Manufacturer's Limited Warranty: For Products purchased and intended for sale in India and the South East Asia Pacific region including (various countries) but excluding Australia and New Zealand). This Limited Warranty is in addition to, and does not affect your legal (statutory) rights under your applicable national laws relating to the sale of consumer products." It also lists separate warranty sections for Australia and NZ.

It then goes on to detail the warranty, including all the usual mumbo jumbo. I'm not sure how, exactly, that applies to all the questions of US warranty, but the bit at the end makes it sound as if 'your country's usual laws about required warranties are still valid.' What that's like here in the US, though... I am no expert (yet).

moepda 2011-10-26 20:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1114192)
Especially as the Windows Phones are coming out in UK in matter of a week or two, certainly the latter.
Nokia showed the white N9 in Nokia World where it has it's own booth. Nokia World isn't afterall country specific with people attending from tens of different countries.

adding insult to injury... not only wont they release in the uk but they actually announce a new white version in london (which they also wont release here) .. wp wont get me i will get n9 !

slai 2011-10-26 22:10

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If they hadnt released the N9 Id probably be getting the Lumia.

ajalkane 2011-10-26 22:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pedroesteban (Post 1113867)
Nokia 800: 420 EUR
Nokia N9: 599 EUR / 699 EUR

Didn't they say that the N9 was expensive because of the complex machining of the polycarbonate body and the curved screen?!?

If N9 price doesn't go down, conspiracy theories prove to be true.

Not to apologize for the huge prize difference, because basically I think it's Nokia (Elop) on the other hand trying to cash-in with N9 and on the other hand trying to make Windows Phones attractive prize-wise to get market share...

But as is public knowledge, the Windows Phones are not actually manufactured by Nokia, but by Compal. The N9's are truly Nokia made, in Finland for european market (which will make them more expensive due to workforce alone). For the asian market they're made in China, which would probably equate smaller workforce cost.

I also read this comment in OSNews, take this as you will, as I have no idea personally about these manufactuaring processes:

"Nokia also made a point that the speakers holes are drilled in the 800. In the N9 they are also, since the N9 is carved from a bigger piece of plastic. The 800 isn't, it is "injection molded", just like all the other mobile phones today. So either the production method for the N9 had serious problems, so Nokia killed that too, or compal just couldn't use a similar production method."

So the combination of these two facts may allude for some of the price difference. But like I said, I think there's deeper eloppy strategic reasons for them also.

I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the manufacturing process between these phones is indeed different. Damned if I remember what the difference was. I'm paraphrasing now using my notoriously white-noise filled memory, but the N9 is carved out of

Val Demar 2011-10-26 23:25

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Anyone knows if Lumina 800 is the same hardware as the N9?

slai 2011-10-26 23:59

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Its not. Different and better CPU, less RAM, lower resolution, smaller screen... There are differences.

unfuccwittable 2011-10-27 00:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Val Demar (Post 1114298)
Anyone knows if Lumina 800 is the same hardware as the N9?

not complete but u get the gist.

http://blog.gsmarena.com/siblings-of...okia-n9-table/

asianmoomoo 2011-10-27 00:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Pebby (Post 1114214)
The protective plastic wrapping it came in and SIM tray have stickers that say 'made in china,' and, thus far, I have noticed no branding. If you want me to look anywhere in particular, let me know, and I'll check it out.

Edit: Just a bit of additional info (which also makes it sound like it's definitely meant for sale in SE Asia/Australia) - the warranty booklet that came with it says this: "Manufacturer's Limited Warranty: For Products purchased and intended for sale in India and the South East Asia Pacific region including (various countries) but excluding Australia and New Zealand). This Limited Warranty is in addition to, and does not affect your legal (statutory) rights under your applicable national laws relating to the sale of consumer products." It also lists separate warranty sections for Australia and NZ.

It then goes on to detail the warranty, including all the usual mumbo jumbo. I'm not sure how, exactly, that applies to all the questions of US warranty, but the bit at the end makes it sound as if 'your country's usual laws about required warranties are still valid.' What that's like here in the US, though... I am no expert (yet).

For hte branding...are there any branding within the software?

Pebby 2011-10-27 01:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asianmoomoo (Post 1114309)
For hte branding...are there any branding within the software?

None that I can tell - I don't have a SIM chip in mine, yet, but opening the phone, music, web browser, etc. all show no signs of branding.

asianmoomoo 2011-10-27 02:48

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ok i pulled the trigger on Negri. black, 16gig, $654.50 shipped.

gerbick 2011-10-27 02:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asianmoomoo (Post 1114328)
ok i pulled the trigger on Negri. black, 16gig, $654.50 shipped.

Congrats. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. And if it is branded, it's only in the lock screen from my understanding.

cincibluer6 2011-10-27 02:57

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Makes me wonder if I shouldn't just bite the bullet and buy from Negri. Seems legit (now that a few have them in hand) though it's a bit much. I'm wondering if a major retailer (Amazon, Newegg) will get them in the future and for a cheaper price.

asianmoomoo 2011-10-27 03:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cincibluer6 (Post 1114334)
Makes me wonder if I shouldn't just bite the bullet and buy from Negri. Seems legit (now that a few have them in hand) though it's a bit much. I'm wondering if a major retailer (Amazon, Newegg) will get them in the future and for a cheaper price.

I definitely think they will drop and NewEgg or what not will carry it...but you might have to wait 3 months or so. But due to limited availability, it might be a 3rd party seller through amazon.

Negri has it for cheapest. Get it.

SamGan 2011-10-27 03:48

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Price will drop but it depends how long you are willing to wait. Immediate gratification is worth something, no?

Val Demar 2011-10-27 04:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unfuccwittable (Post 1114304)

Of course, otherwise it would be too easy :)

EspeonEefi 2011-10-27 04:37

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A friend suggested that I note this in this main thread for those looking to buy the N9 in the U.S. If you're buying from Negri Electronics, then you can get $35 off if you use the coupon code "sb35offjkh". I believe that's how asianmoomoo got his $654.50 price for a 16 GB model (magenta, cyan, and black), and I ordered a 64 GB one for myself for $777.50 using that code.

(Whoa, the 64 GB one seems to have just run out of stock and shifted to backorder on Negri tonight...)

Thanks to charbar for originally posting this over in the "worldwide availability & pricing" thread.

It's been really tough not touching the 16 GB N9 that I've been working on selling while I wait for my 64 GB model to arrive. I can't wait till next Tuesday! (Kind of makes me wish I had just sprung for the express shipping...)

Cue 2011-10-27 05:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by unfuccwittable (Post 1114304)

wait a minute... so the N9 doesn't have 1700 pentaband or have gsmarena made a mistake?

SamGan 2011-10-27 05:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Cue (Post 1114364)
wait a minute... so the N9 doesn't have 1700 pentaband or have gsmarena made a mistake?

Gsmaren has made a mistake. The other mistake is not to shade the OS for N9 green.

Pebby 2011-10-27 06:11

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Been using the phone for the evening, got a micro-SIM set up, and am generally really happy. Just to rattle off a few thoughts, having come from the n900:

What I think is better than the n900:
- The camera. It's like the n900 camera but even better. I love it. The flash can be awfully bright, though - it needs a power setting. Video recording is, by far, so much better than on the n900.
- The mail software. It's the n900's but with a pretty new skin and awesome HTML mail rendering. If you liked the n900's one, you'll like this one.
- The touchscreen. It feels a lot more sensitive (in a good way), it's easier to click links in the web browser, and it just seems better all-around.
- Speed. It's so fast, even if the UI has brief hiccups here or there, you can get around so much faster than on the n900. Built-in basic applications like the image gallery benefit greatly from this.
- The Ovi Store. Way more thought out than on the n900, much more pleasant than the Apple App Store. Not that I'm an 'app store' kind of person (more of an apt-get store type), but it feels pretty slick.
- Ovi Syncing. My old SIM card had some strange formatting applied to it, so all my contacts' names got screwed up. Changing them on the phone would have been a drag... 'ovi sync contacts, what's this?' Click the switch, I pipe my contacts to a javascript-UI website Nokia provides, and I've got a pretty decent GUI (and a hardware keyboard on my home PC!) to quickly fix up my ~100 contacts' names. Awesome!
- Pentaband! I haven't experienced 3G on my own smartphone ever, as I'm an AT&T customer and was relegated to 2G on the n900. I love the network speed.

What I think is about the same or just a side-step:
- The screen. It's beautiful, it's bright, but it definitely looks more jagged than the n900 when viewing, for example, a pure white screen like the background of a website. The nature of them thar 'pentile' screens? I'm not sure. Text and other detailed things look better, but big blocks of solid color don't seem as crisp (the inside looks like it's coming through a grille).
- Messaging/contacts. It's the same as the n900, which I happen to like.
- Battery life. I know I've heard some mixed reports, but it seems to drain the battery at the same speed my n900 did. That's good by me.

What I really miss about my n900:
- The keyboard. Duh. The VKB is great, best I've used (and I've used some recent Androids and an iPhone's), with a very nice-feeling haptic feedback, but, as I'm sure we're all aware, nothing compared to a hardware keyboard. The terminal app in horizontal orientation is sad with the VKB up there.
- Task switching. Maybe I'm crazy, but I thought n900's task switching was better. I'll see how I like it when I play with it more, but on the n900, I never had to remember which homescreen I was on to access the other open apps. Just tapping the little icon in the top left felt more natural than swiping around. We'll see how it stands the test of time. I guess I should try just opening every app I'd ever want to use and staying on the task switching homescreen as much as possible.
- Dedicated camera button AND sliding the camera cover to automatically launch the camera application. Still the fastest way to get to the camera, and I miss it.
- Curved edges on the case + workable landscape mode by default. The top/bottom corners of the n9 are sharp! Holding it in portrait mode is nice when you're trying to operate it with one hand, but it gets uncomfortable after a bit.

asianmoomoo 2011-10-27 07:09

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i dont think the Lumia 800 has the pentaband...


btw, for those who wants to buy at Negri...use this coupon code:

sb35offjkh


you get instant $35 off.

kanishou 2011-10-27 08:27

Re: N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pedroesteban (Post 1114026)
Does the glossy finish get scratches and marks easily?

I don't have the final hardware, so I can't comment on it (some issues had to be fixed to make the white casing work reliably, so it may not be quite the same material).

Of course you will be able to damage any plastic material if you drop it hard enough, at least this prototype has gone through some rough times (including forceful contact with a stone floor) and the overall appearance is still perfectly white and glossy.

If you treat the device with the little bit of care that such a luxury item deserves, I am sure that you will be fine. And for the more cautious, or rough situations, there is always the protective cover, which I heard is quite nice too.

OVK 2011-10-27 09:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tissot (Post 1113978)
God damn that white N9 is nice looking. Paid way too much for my 64GB black to sell it just to change the color..... or could i. :D[/IMG]

I give you 450€ for your old black 64GB N9. :)

mece 2011-10-27 09:59

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Peter Skillman talks about the design of the N9 to engadget @ Nokia World http://pulkitarora.in/nokias-peter-s...alks-design-n9

Some interesting comments "It is, to some extent after February 11th, a concept car" -- No kidding. I bet Peter is not entirely happy about the fate of the N9.

edit: btw, Peter Skillman seems like a really cool guy :)

pedroesteban 2011-10-27 11:26

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http://www.techcrunch.com/2011/10/27...fragmentation/

Will people stop complaining about Nokia's lack of support now?

BTW, dead OS my @ss!

marrat 2011-10-27 11:44

Re: N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pedroesteban (Post 1114509)
http://www.techcrunch.com/2011/10/27...fragmentation/

Will people stop complaining about Nokia's lack of support now?

BTW, dead OS my @ss!

Dead Oh-@ss? :p

Rugoz 2011-10-27 11:49

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anybody is gonna buy my n9 64gb when I buy the white version? ;)

SamGan 2011-10-27 11:58

Re: N9 [Shipping]: It's finally here [for some]!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mece (Post 1114473)
Peter Skillman talks about the design of the N9 to engadget @ Nokia World http://pulkitarora.in/nokias-peter-s...alks-design-n9

Some interesting comments "It is, to some extent after February 11th, a concept car" -- No kidding. I bet Peter is not entirely happy about the fate of the N9.

edit: btw, Peter Skillman seems like a really cool guy :)

No worries. After gauging the two WP7 phones Nokia released yesterday I am certain Nokia will not be able survive with an only WP7 strategy. They will sell but not in quantities big enough to save Nokia. In another 2 quarters I expect Elop to be sacked and Nokia to make a U-turn on Meego to pursue a multi-platform strategy. N9 production will be ramped up and sold in every country.

Trust me. If Nokia doesn't want to end up in a hole in the ground it will have to change course. Nokia is a huge corporation and there is no way it can survive selling those crummy WP7 phones.


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