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How much do you want for it?

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how much ? and what country are you ?

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Nice information, and it clearly put some context to Nokia's support... a bit biased, as there are almost two times more major Android updates as there are iOS updates. Also, iOS updates stop 3 years after hardware release (well right at the end of the graph)
If we consider "green" the last two android updates (ie, less than a year, or less than an iOS update), the My-touch and Droid are almost full green for 2 years, and the nexus one, droid and Evo are likely to reach 2 years as well.

N900 1 year of support was still disappointing, as I see 7 android phones that did better, so it's barely middle range ;)

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I've got to admit that I think I prefer it in all-black, myself.

Looks like Negri is the place to go. So far, they seem to be deliverying PROMPTLY on orders. I was skeptical but now I'm impressed.

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I'm almost excited ... assuming preorders don't outnumber the stock delivery, my N9 64GB should ship tomorrow ...

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negri do ship to the uk too , asked customer supprt and was confirmed. cant comment on costs other than international shipping is worked out at checkout and is either express or standard. decided to get n9 now so gotta raise the money ! about xmas/new year should hopefully be ready to go with whoever is best priced then...

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Another N9 64GB orphan has found a new home.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...c5d830d5o.jpg/
It has no proud N9 mark but I decided to save this one from becoming a back alley Lumia.

Here are some pictures to entertain you all.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6285701543/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6285701641/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6286222700/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6285702359/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6286223172/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6285702751/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/6285699923/

Set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/69122168@N07/

Price paid: 20900 THB / 487 Euro about 2 weeks ago I believe.

Carried in from Bangkok by somebody trying to escape wet feet.

First impression:

underwhelmed by the design
There is no way you can put it down on a flat surface without scratching the small support point.
Don't even think to put it down on the screen.

Main material is cheap plastic and so does it look.

In fact it looks like the plastic is a place holder for the real body.

Maybe a customised qoating is a good idea but to deserve that it will need to prove its self first.

We all know how those typical cheap chromed plastic parts look like in time. If you live in a high humidity climate it may start to give away its secret within a year

The screen pixel density is worse compared to N900, Pre3 and there seems to be ghosting in my copy.
My reading distance sure will need to be increased to prevent eye hurt.
The color rendition is terrible (yellow shade at best, green shade under angle) and close to that of the N8. Must be that typ of screen.

Long live the Nokia person that has decided on the screen of the N900 against all hype.

The devices is a little too large for being that thin and feels less comfortable to hold. N8 user have confirmed this.
The great thing is that it is very pocketable.

On the software I won't give much opinion yet, need to play around first.

I am very surprised to like (rather not hate) the typing on virtual keyboard. Big relief.

Happy to see it memorize multiple Skype accounts.

And the batch photo upload function is still there.

Bad point for the back arrow one needs to hit to go up in a menu.
This should be a swipe back movement on bottom of screen like on Pre 3. WebOS, they got that nailed.

The back arrow just doesn't integrate with the otherwise slick interface.

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Wow, ^ you sound like an ahole. Your impression does not match what most reviews and users say.

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ste-phan: thanks a lot for your initial thoughts - in your pictures it looks extremely cool though. Do you mind sharing where the device you got was made in, as in which country?

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Hey guys, long time lurker first time poster here.

I grabbed a 64 GB off Negri, so yes they are legit, and they ship fast (I did order two-day shipping though, and unless someone who ordered ground shipping says otherwise, I would advise people to order the two-day shipping since it ships from Hong Kong and having your N9 stuck on a boat for two weeks across the Pacific would suck royally). Unfortunately, Negri seems to be sold out now, but they were cheapest. Only issue with Negri is that the N9's they ship, while still genuinely unlocked, are Starhub-branded phones. This means: marked as a Starhub phone on the packaging ("Nokia N9 Black 64GB(Starhub)" on the white sticker containing IMEI number), no branding on the physical exterior of the device or any of the included accessories, a Starhub wallpaper as default (can be changed), the same graphic as the wallpaper displayed on boot after the Nokia boot sequence and before displaying the home screen(cannot be changed), and a few Starhub "apps" which are just bookmarks into the web browser for Starhub services (which cannot be deleted). In day-to-day usage it's pretty forgettable and not such a big deal, but still we hope that whatever flashing mechanism comes along will allow us to get rid of this crapware. The Starhub phones also come with Asian power adapters, but they accept US voltage so Negri throws a (really) cheap adapter (not transformer) in the FedEx box (outside the N9 packaging itself) so you can plug it into a US outlet.

I'm running this on AT&T: tried to cut down my SIM card to a micro-SIM card and failed. The electronics are just too big on the AT&T SIM cards. I ended up taking a pair of nail scissors and cutting away almost all the plastic and it still wouldn't really fit in the tray. You can force-jam it into the tray, squish the tray into the phone, no dice - the N9 just wouldn't read it. I know the SIM card still worked because I could still fit it in one of the adapters that came with the cutter, plug it into my old phone, and get a signal. So if you have AT&T, save yourself the headache and trouble, and just go to an AT&T store and ask for a micro-SIM. The AT&T store I used replaced the SIM for free for me but of course, your mileage may vary, but of course AT&T's micro-SIM fits just fine and works just fine.

I asked AT&T at the store to put me on the $15/month "basic phone" unlimited data plan. They said "that phone looks like a smartphone" so it probably wouldn't work, but when I said "I know what I'm doing, please do it anyways" and they did so. Unfortunately the guy said that the phone was coming up as an unrecognized IMEI in the system (expected) but that it was therefore rejecting it. I was able to pull down Amazon off AT&T's 3.5G (as reported on the N9) in-store but the rep said that was pay-per-use. He did, however, say that I might have better luck talking to a rep over the phone who might be able to override some stuff in the system, so I will call them on Friday (611 from an AT&T cell line).

Hope this helps guys... appreciate it if someone has a different experience and can post with getting the $15/month unlimited data on AT&T.

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Excuse me? Mostly I hear is about how beautiful the screen, the design, the material.

Maybe it was time to put things in perspective.

Check my pictures I have posted for you, I compare the phone with not exactly the most popular devices on the market.
I am not a fan boy of the "other side".

Where I reside for the moment the price has risen to 769 Euro's http://www.expansys.be/s.aspx?search=nokia%20N9
High trees catch wind.


I have one very positive note to make, as experience with the device grows:

I tried to keep at least 6 full web sites open and I had no problem receiving a call.

It looks like this one is going to stay as a phone.

Did I mention that flash does not work? :rolleyes:

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Thanks for liking the pictures,

sorry I could not figure out how to embed those from flickr free account. (the busy job here won't allow me the time)

I have been looking around but the device does not feature any "Made in China / Finland"

Where to look?

The sim tray does have a sticker "made in China" on it.




Also there is no external N9 marking so I guess I am in the market for a small Penguin sticker before I get beaten up by a drunken Maemo fan or something. :)

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Please don't insult people that don't perfectly share your point of view...
The fact that this is a "maemo" forum implies that we should preferably talk "maemo" related topics. It does not imply that we should all mindlessly praise "maemo" related products.

As far as I'm concerned, I welcome all user reviews and impressions.

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Whoa! Easy now! Most reviews don't agree, but the views were put across in a non-troll fashion. I'm glad we have another viewpoint - I'll wait until mine arrives to see if I agree or not.
I do agree with the back button thing though, as does Konttori. Not much they can do about it now though, unless they hackily retrofit the QML toolbar component with a micro-swipe detector

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One last thing I forgot... there is a Starhub brand on the lockscreen. Pretty annoying and may have a small effect on battery life.

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stephan, the material of the body is not plastic it is polycarbonate and the color is not painted on, it is that color throughout.

Maybe you'll like to google for the difference between plastic and polycarbonate.

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For the folks saying their Negri phones are branded with Starhub, I'm guessing you guys got the 64GB models? My 16GB Magenta seems to have no branding, so the 64GB model seems to be the only common thread for those experiencing the issue.

I agree with the user who complained about the back button, but also that the back button likes to move around between some applications (upper left in some, bottom left in others). It's also about 25% too small for me to reliably and easily tap.

I also agree with the negative review's complaint about size compared to thickness. Fits great in the pocket, not as well in the hand - holding the n900 was way easier on my hands, and I can't really type one-handed anyway (so not much benefit to portrait mode for me, yet). I'll see how I adapt.

One thing I didn't mention in my mini-review is the included case. For a freebie that comes with the phone, it's actually rather nice. The color of the magenta one matches the phone's plastic rather well, it fits nicely, and the material feels good on the hands. I'm trying it with-case for a bit before I decide if I like it that way. It certainly helps ease some complaints about it being uncomfortable to hold in portrait for a while.

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I ordered the 16gb off of negri. I did the free ground shipping, and i was expecting it would take a week (as they said estimated 5-7 days) to get it. I ordered it on Monday, and its out for delivery right now! It came via las vegas (as opposed to HK). so I think it depends which model you bought.

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Do you know what their warranty policy is on this phone? I chatted with a rep and he first said 1yr manufacturer's. When I reminded him this phone has no US manufacturer's warranty he said they offer 1yr free warranty.

I'm a bit uneasy about that response.

Does anyone know if Squaretrade smartphone warranty would work on N9 here in the US?

Unfortunately, Amex will not offer extended warranty on items w/o US manufacturer's warranty.

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Sorry, the warranty is not so important to me. If Nokia was an unknown manufacturer, then yes, a warranty would provide some peace of mind. However, I know that Nokia is a manufacturer that makes very reliable products. I personally am brand-loyal to Thinkpads for laptops and Nokia for phones because their products, especially those like the N9 that have a superior case and glass, will last and survive some abuse.

However, there are always some lemons out there... my understanding is that Negri will work with you if you have a lemon. Their way is to have you ship them your N9, they ship you a new one, and if they find the old N9 actually was a lemon, then the RMA is done, but if you were just an idiot then they will ship you back the working N9 and charge you for the one they shipped previously, so you'll have two N9's. Not ideal, but, you know, we haven't got much choice.

Point: any warranty longer than about 2 weeks for products known to be reliable etc. is superfluous IMO.

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Thinking i pad around 720 euros for mine, i think i pass. ;)

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I agree, most reviews (even bashers) talk about a great design.

I was surprised specially for

Can someone comment further regarding the materials on the N9?

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Charbar,
Mine is out for delivery today as well. I ordered the Black 16gb on sunday night . Let me know if yours is starhub branded or not and i will let you know as well.

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It's nice to hear such a different opinion from someone who doesn't like it, but, speaking about the Magenta N9, I really like it. Looks-wise, the color is a really pleasing bubblegum pink, hardly what I'd call 'magenta,' but it manages to avoid looking like a cheap toy, probably in a large part due to the really snazzy curved screen and fairly unique pink color. You don't see pink phones or electronics every day, but I'd say it looks slick rather than chintzy.

The PVC exterior feels really solid and nice to the touch. Jamming my fingernail in it, it has a tiny bit of give - imagine those very hard rubber bouncy balls you may have played with when you're a kid. It doesn't feel as rigid as, say, a PVC pipe, and the material has a nice, grippy texture to it that feels good in my hand.

The feeling of it being a solid 'brick' of material is quite different from other phones where you can press in on certain areas (e.g. the center of the battery cover area on the n900) and feel give.

I'm really not one to worry about a phone getting scratched up - of course it's going to be your precious baby gadget for the first month, but at a certain point it's a tool that you use to get stuff done. My phone's usually in my pocket. It'll get dusty, but I've never had any really damaged phones. Even the relatively fragile screen of my n900 is in great shape after almost 2 years of abuse, so I'm really not worried about the n9.

Hope that helps give you some ideas!

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He's being ridiculous. The polycarbonate is very strong and preferable to a metal body. Try to imagine a sippy cup that you give a baby - display glass aside, you could throw the N9 on the floor and you wouldn't know it after you pick it up.

The included silicone case is quite good as well. I've been passing my phone around and most people don't know that there is a case on it.

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Im waiting for N9 from malaysia: do you know what kind of plug it comes with? what kind of plug adapter I should get?

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Their based Las Vegas so they probably ordered some in bulk pre-emptively of the 16gb version so could still have been made in china but the cheapest price they may be getting is a branded simfree black 64gb from HK.

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polycarbonate is a plastic. It's a high quality plastic, not cheap :)

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atleast external apps can do this without problem by using the Flickable component so it up to the app devs :-)

I am planing to use it in my own apps instead of backbutton.

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Apparently clock-for-clock the N9's CPU's roughly as good, GPU too.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...4815&p=31#r615
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...5989#r31625989
Not exactly conclusive, but I believe xsacha does some dev. work in this area.

It was quite common to get stable 66% OC for the N900.
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum...4815&p=34#r667
I reckon we can easily expect at least 20% stable OC for the N9.
So the performance advantage will be closed there...

Not sure how well the N900's DSP/GPU overclocked, or if too many bothered.
It was being done for the N900's DSP recently for H264 720p playback (base).
But at stock, 800 has a better CPU is correct, yes. :D

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Yes, n9-apps is finally alive!!!
http://n9-apps.com/
http://n9-apps.com/welcome/

*edit*
Hmm, fairly simple/sparse, but solid start I guess.
I'm signed-up and I don't even have a N9 yet :)

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Laying on my bed, watching youtube using cutetube, watching/listening this and the video on the N9 screen looks absolutely amazing, sound quality with N9 + Sennheiser IE7 is jaw dropping, N9 feels like one of the most compact devices i have ever owned and the UI looks drop dead cool when you are swiping away from the video.

Just how much even cooler all this could have been if this strategy would have been followed till the end and all the money now poured in to WP, would have been for MeeGo or Maemo. :(

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This is an eternal thought for me.

Ah well, having an N9 is a hell of a lot better than a kick in the teeth.

It's been a little over 24 hours now and I'm loving it.

Notice how much this thread has calmed down now the 20-30 of us who are probably the most vocal fanatics have acquired an N9? ;)

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Tell me about it. I walked into the AT&T store to grab a micro-SIM, and they have this humongous banner behind the support desk - "iPhone 4S", "Introducing Siri" etc.

Of course a good part of the iPhone's popularity is going to come from word of mouth, but I think that inevitably you have a lot of people who come into a store and in-retail advertising like that is going to produce a pretty big response. If that banner was advertising the N9 instead (I'm half-seriously thinking of going back, taking a photo, and then photoshopping it), they could have had massive retail response.

Of course, there already is a massive retail response, in the few retail markets it's in. Sigh...

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Did they object to giving you a micro sim at all?

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looks like nokia stock has raised a bit latest week. but i am sure it will drop again. i did buy when the was around lowest. ad soon as it falls again I will sell and buy the white or magenta because i think better invest money on yet another n9 than nokia as company as long as the board is hijacked by Microsoft fanboys...

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Nope. I showed them the N9, took out the microSIM tray, and said something to the effect of "Look, I bought this abroad, and I'm already a subscriber, I just need to transition from the normal SIM card that's in the phone I was using to a microSIM for the new phone I just bought." The rep goes in the back, grabs a microSIM, even puts it in the tray for me, does his thing in the computer, watches me put the tray back into the N9, and it works.

Now, the rep did not want to sell me the $15/month unlimited data plan for dumbphones, because he saw the N9 was a smartphone. But he still tried to get it working. It apparently didn't work (he said the system showed the test usage I ran as pay-per-MB), so I'm going to call AT&T customer support tomorrow.

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My 64 GB black arrived from whymobile.com today, so they are legit. I'll go update with the specifics in the gerbick's group-buy thread.