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Video is one thing, but this is also about docking this little computer with an external monitor.
To present anything N9 does on a big screen.

-N8 has HDMI for entertainment purpose
-E7 has HDMI for business presentation reasons
-N9 has no HDMI, maybe for design reasons but almost certain to reserve the candy for the WP7 version.

As far as video is concerned: in my case N8 saved the day when divx playback from Snow Leopard OSX + VLC was too shoppy. N8 provided much better decoding, colors and nicer subtitle rendering, no tweaking needed.
TV video decoding being limited to (Pana plasma 2009)

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i have read in here almost all postings
i've see some people wanted to have hardware keyboard,hdmi,fm trasmitter and so on

about the keyboard, sorry guys may have to wait for the n950

i guess if meego wants to keep selling this nice N9 will have to add some of the other features later on

what i see from this N9... is that is been design for the mass and normal mobile users and not for pure experts or mobile freaks i guess

personal i have no knowlege about hacking... but i will NOT go for a wp7
is just my feeling say NO
i will go for the N9 hoping meego or some hacker will add some features or apps later on

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oh, I definitely wish it had hdmi, an hdmi port. I just think the micro usb is a little over loaded. not a big fan of mhl really I guess

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don't hold your breath, you will turn cyan

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This article http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...ia-n9-imaging/ just gave me a lot of perspective and respect in regards to the hardware manufacturing of the n9. After reading this it is really remarkable who the camera has as many features as it does in such a tight, snug, and elegant body. They explain that 12mp was too big a module to include and maintain the elegant design of the n9. So whoever is complaining about the camera and any other features such as hdmi, consider how that may have changed the overall shape of the unibody that is impressing everyone. Great job to Nokia!

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Fascinating article.

http://mobile-review.com/articles/20...i-125-en.shtml

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Ok with me if they did it to make it look cooler but I would prefer something that had more features at the expense of looking a little clunky...

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Yeah I know what you mean like most people ask me how I deal with my clunky n900 and i said i don't mind it fits in my pocket and does everything I want, it's a mobile device to me more than a phone. Nokia is trying to appeal to the mass market which likes sleek devices as the trend seems to be and hence why the beautiful design that is the n9 formed.

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Design is ok as a bonus.
If Nokia really felt out of options and decided to appeal mass market by design over features why they didn't release the

N950 as consumer device immediately and
N9 as media demo (vs developper) device to selected journalists 1nd bloggers first?

After a couple of months, a few online petitions 'Nokia bring the N9 to the consumers already, we don't need a keyboard' , the sexy device would be released right before iPhone 5.

Why not? ah it starts with an E.

I wonder if I would bother typing this nonsense if I had an N9 instead of N900.

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At least you can conveniently blame anything on one person. A Canadian even.

But yeah, I think you would bother, considering that I have bothered to post most of my nonsense on the N9 (in portrait, big keys are overrated).

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IMO N950 is all about landscape usage which N9's current UI isn't or very limited, therefore they have to concentrate on one way of usage, portrait. One feature I would miss if I had N950 is the idle clock screen which can't be used on N950 due to the TFT screen, visibility in sunlight is also important for me but I don't how is N950's screen compared to N9's in this situation.

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He's talking about HDMI....
That has nothing to do with whether MHL is implemented or do-able via AV 3.5mm or mUSB.
Read up on MHL again... HDMI = irrelevant for HD output via MHL.

My point exactly.

If MHL is implemented at all, it's likely to be done via AV 3.5mm, as so far that's the only "official" means of TV-out.*
But if that were the case, surely we'd have some official specs now saying 3.5mm can do more than 480i out?

Which is why I'm hoping against hope that MHL is do-able "unofficially" via mUSB or 3.5mm much later on, thanks to efforts by the OSS community.
But 1st... We need official confirmation from Nokia that MHL is not implemented or planned, via 3.5mm or mUSB.

*& why'd they bother with two TV-outs, & even if they did, why not mention it?

Yeah when it comes down to it, USB OTG is prolly more important overall for me too.
I have dedicated media front-end's that already do very nicely what an N9 could've done for me with HD out.

Yeah I read that the other day...
I agree it is somewhat unappreciated what they've been able to do!

People keep confusing HD output, with the need for HDMI or even a HDMI port.

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Try the download herehttp://www.nokioteca.net/blog/2011/0...a-il-birbante/

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The N950 had issues with the keyboard and I can't remember where it was said but it was rejected due to this. How can the n9 be a developer phone without a keyboard :P Also Elop doesn't listen to people even us Canadians haha :p so a petition would do nothing

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So Eldar lurks at talk.maemo.org.

Judging from the article pictures in the text.

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I think the point people are trying to make is that, for hypothetical features that are based on zero information but maybe somehow possible later on, it should be discussed later on.

It has been asked on TMO and Meego handset, nobody can tell, please just wait till somebody can.

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Generally Eldar did it again:

"92,000 handsets were produced (N950 for developers was released even in lower numbers)"

I thought 92k handsets is for N950. Is he doing that deliberately?
and still no comment from Nokia on avilability in UK, etc.

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^ He's full of crap...
It's just some arbitrary no. he likes to repeat.
He originally was saying the same for 950.
Why now magically is that no. assoc. w/the N9?

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Via the Qt mobility APIs, you would be able to add an event to the calendar from another application. Whether you would be able to do the picture and open the weather app is another question.

It should be possible to do this with Qt mobility on Maemo 5 and Harmattan. I had hoped to start learning Qt Quick etc. by writing such an app, but have had no time for it ...

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for USB OTG there might actually be some hope, atleast according to this:

http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/attachments/omap3630_iso.png

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There's another reason for OTG, & it's already mentioned on jakiman's site
http://shootspeak.com/2011/06/24/nok...dbits-updates/

But i think the best proof so far, & not yet mentioned on jakimans's site is this
http://forum.meego.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=161

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I doubt anyone was questioning the ability of the SoC to handle USB host, given the proven abilities of the 3430. My own doubts revolve around turnaround time; given that USB host has been achieved on the N900, can we expect it to arrive more quickly for the N9? How much of the code (if any) is transferrable?

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Its like he collected all the FUD from all the "brilliant" analysts on TMO.

- The reactions about the N900 were nowhere near as good as the N9. IE: Engadget went to say its like staring in the eyes of god...
- Even after the WP device leak debacle operators and independent shops seem to be lining up to sell the N9.
- And like it was mentioned previously, the 92000 devices crap again.

The part about outsourcing production sound intriguing but i have already read that on TMO.
So, nothing new and original and mostly crap from eldar, again.

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Of course a developper needs the keyboard I was just saying to make it (N950) the consumer version and N9 the mistery, hard to get press version.

The issues with the N950 keyboard were some rumour that was spread during the platform nota.
http://eu.techcrunch.com/2011/02/12/...-first-device/

As far as I know it has never been confirmed who were those operators, what was their criteria , what plastic goodies from other suppliers they do certify and why Nokia wasn't correcting the deemed flaw.

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It seems that N9 features NXP PN544 nfc chip according to this:

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/302152/

RX-71 is N9 right?

Can someone who has N9 check the lsmod output for module nameed pn544?

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Read the author's page (and download the game) at http://ovi.petrucci.ch/elpo/

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I thought that RX-71 was the development device used in N900 timeframe, not N9. RM-680 is N950. Does anyone know the board name for N9?

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That is because everything that is written here is true.

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Well it is in code submitted by a Nokian.

Can someone who has N9 check the lsmod output for module nameed pn544 or pn533?

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Thanks for replying.

Would anyone be able to test this out as i've no experience with programming or developing. read my original question if your wondering what i asked. appreciate any replies on this.

http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p...postcount=1244

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I've just found there actually is pn544 driver within N950 at Nokia RDA.

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^ Crap really, so NFC for N950?!? Guess that's jumping the gun a bit.
Still... overall hardware-wise... I prefer N9 "slightly more"...

I wonder how well the UX actually works on the N950 compared to N9.
I guess they're pretty much the same, but one would perhaps want to twk the UX conifg. to make it more ideal for the N950 etc.

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No NFC for n950
module was not loaded.
Module is for N9.

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He says here it requires a switch behind the Micro Usb port that's it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtwTcnR0hqA

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I see a real world problem there. It is going to be an annoyance constantly switching over to fennec because you ran into a flash website so why not make the transition as easy and quick as the rest of the UI?
I think long press on the address bar in the native browser should bring up the option to "open with fennec" and when it does so it auto closes the native browser unless the user has chosen to keep the native browser open in the settings under "browser switching."

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Look on the lower right.
http://www.linuxfordevices.com/files...3630_block.jpg

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http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...photo-gallery/
camera is awesome, way better than android WP7 competition

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Yup! At least you can be proud of the camera. Shame about the keyboard, small screen, ports, closed-source UI and apps and the rest.. but there's always the camera. :) Good on you for finding that one good thing!

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Think this video is about clear impression of using the N9 in real life as ive seen so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUw4GYzMyQ

Pretty good, but the tap to activate lag that Nokia so loves to code in is still present to some degree. Shouldnt be hard to tweak. :)

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Oh shush! The N9 is a great device and it seems most people outside of Nokia's leadership know it. Get with the program.

You and gerbick playing devils advocate just for the sake of it is getting a little bit dull.