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Is it a huge faux pas to admit that I'm not terribly impressed with it either?

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No, what didnt you like?

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I still say Nokia squandered away some great opportunities with stupid decisions that they could, even now, reverse--but I don't think the N9 will go down as either a consumer product success story, nor as the epitome of what Maemo hackers really wanted either... and I base that on the general reactions, even here in the home turf for Maemo. On the whole, the impression I'm left with is that it seems tepid to depressing at best, with the outliers of a few VERY satisfied or VERY dissatisfied people filtered out.

By the way, stats came out today to point out that Android is activating over 500,000 new customers PER DAY. How's that "opinion outside of Nokia" sounding again? I guess it's not fair to point that out. There's only ONE CHOICE of currently produced devices for Maemo/MeeGo from Nokia now. It's not as if you get to choose a model to suit your needs or anything. Who needs keys and buttons, right? I guess you could be right--it might just sell like crazy! Worked for Apple! Although it seems to give mixed messages: ME TOO! ME TOO! LOOK AT ME! I'M DIFFERENT, JUST LIKE APPLE!! ME TOO!

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I think he found the easter egg.

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someone mentioned that fennec on n9 supports flash.

bad news :(

http://twitter.com/#!/jukkaeklund/st...94818245226497

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Also, old news. That was pretty much confirmed a few days ago, now. One of the many things people have been complaining about else-threads.

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Agree that would be a convenient solution,
and if only this Fennec would give us the option to open web pages in new window instead of trying to imitate a desktop browser with tabbed interface.
Or has this been fixed already? The big Fennec annoyances are this one and the slow responsiveness (not render speed).

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Hello Guys can you tell me please when Nokia n9 launching in UK?

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There is no public release date, yet

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ok..Thank you Pillum..:)

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Yes someone's already pointed that out to Jakiman
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php...11#post1041311

And right after that post, & even better reason for why it's prolly coming was posted :)

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Nokia conversations presented new screenshots.

Hmm, boosted widgets gallery icon ... thought N9 does not have support for widgets...

http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...ment-238637141

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That's the UI widgets gallery. It's a developer showcase application so you can see all the different widget elements. It's in the qemu image you can launch from the Qt SDK, and - in fact - you can see it in the task switcher here:

http://bleb.org/software/maemo/harma...titude-sdk.png

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"Widgets" is a general term, not limited to QWidgets... It could be called "componentsgallery" as well, and it's the showcase of libmeegotouch widgets/components (not to be confused with the QML library called Qt Components).

Most internal applications use libmeegotouch, newer and third-party applications should use QML.

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Any reason I get this when clicking on the link?

404 - File or directory not found.
The resource you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.

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Another MeeGo UI Screenshots Gallery http://mobilesguruji.co.cc/2011/06/3...50-screenshots

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http://conversations.nokia.com/2011/...ot-gallery-12/

sorry

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is there a fast way to see upcoming events from the calendar? maybe in the lock screen?

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If not, it'd be pretty simple to add to the event feed and add notifications as you get closer or have a "your meeting's today" notification which you drag to see an agenda. It'd only appear if you have meetings, of course.

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On the first part i agree with you 100%
Nokia failed big time, first with tablets then with Maemo in general.

As for the N9, let me be clear, i won't get it, its just not for me. Whether its the keyboard or the UI or the lack of a coffee maker doesn't matter, i have already said my share on the subject but as a device on its own the N9 is great overall, the only flaw it might have is 5 capital letters on the top - NOKIA.

If the same device had a fruit on its behind, my bet is that it would sell like hotcakes, probably surpassing any device on the market so far.

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Well actually the tabs in dolphin browser on android are just like the desktop FF browser and are just as usable the only trade off is that you have to be at the top of the web page to see the tabs and flick through. Not a bad trade off for a full screen browser.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnOI0QY4ZwU
at 1:40 you'll see him switch tabs but you see the tabs right away at 9s.
I have a faster phone than that one. Mine is a dual core lg g2x and it's fast even on stock android I haven't flashed CM7 from the nightlies here.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...08201&page=142
or flashed an oc/uv kernal to overclock the cpu yet.
Some guys are getting 5960 quadrant score on this phone. Compare that with the 3500 the SGS2 gets right out of the box.
We were only getting 26 27 right out the box until cyanogen mods came around.
I like watching the nightly commits
http://cm-nightlies.appspot.com/?device=p999
I hope we have something for meego like this so we can see progress being made it's a useful tool you can see how the forum refers to the commits to answer others questions.

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Just had a chance to watch this, so damn cool...
Apparently in the summer there's many more phones coming with it built-in.
He says they have 7 phones in testing right now (n.b. the vid's from Feb), but he's not allowed to mention makes/models.
Nothing mentioned on their site that I can see, I've emailed them, they'll prolly just say ask Nokia.
Please let there be MHL via 3.5mm* or mUSB or the possibility to "hack it in" later Nokia.**
Don't hold your breathe anyone, but no harm in dreaming ;)

*of course if implemented via 3.5mm, it'd be more limited than mUSB in functionality.
**If they're already a licensee, gradually implementing it after the N9's release, may not be an impossibility.
So long as the boss is cool with employees doing it on company time. Extremely wishful :D

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Why? In what way? Oh, right, #2 (or did you mean something else)

Two reasons not to expect MHL:

• it's not free (as in beer) so someone has to pay a license fee (see #11)
• the MHL spec talks about the connection charging the device; I'm not sure if that's optional or required, but I'm pretty sure you can't charge an N9 via its 3.5mm jack

Reminder: I'd be almost as pleased to see true HD output from an N9 as you; I'm not trashing the idea, just trying to keep expectations realistically low

Edit: removed potentially-confusing reference to HDMI. I wasn't referring to MHL as HDMI (see several previous posts where I refer to HDMI-via-MHL), but I see why it might have looked that way.

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(1)
Of course it's not free.

(2)
MHL is a protocol (no phy layer), charging is not a requirement of the spec.
Just a feature if you happen to be using mUSB as the medium.

It's not HDMI, stop calling it that! LOL
I've already said it's unlikely (albeit not 100% impossible) & explained why, no false hope here! ;)

If Nokia has been actively working on it, it's seemingly far more likely to be on WP7 phones :(

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So in an ideal world, who would you see paying for it?

Useful; thanks.

I'm not! But I've edited my post to remove the possibility of confusion.

Heh, of course not.

Gnaaaarrrrgh :mad:

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ok, no hdmi i understand ... not so much on the N950 but on the N9 there is an issue there with size.

what ISNT an issue wrt size is DLNA ... i was going to come in this thread and ask that everyone calm down about the HDMI and just stream OTA with DLNA. most consoles/pcs/tvs will have you covered (not as saturated as a fm radio) but should aid for most if not all use cases that need an HDMI onboard.

alas i couldnt find it on the spec page: https://www.developer.nokia.com/Devi...ifications/N9/ and that is ashame! all they list is video streaming, so i dont know if it has DLNA ill test that out. but for now this leaves the device below many of its brethren as a one screen device, which is ashame. but its gotta be hackable, DLNA will come if the right ppl get the N950s. either way if it has it and its an oversight by nokia to list it, then there shouldnt be this much crying about the HDMI. the KB was a far greater loss.

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There needn't have been any issue with size... MHL != HDMI...
It can be defined to run over many phy layers, provided the right characteristics are there.
But for now it's mainly targeted towards mUSB...
It outputs uncompressed HD video "&" audio via mUSB & into the HDMI port of any TV.
It does this with the use of an adapter that comes with every phone that implements MHL.

But as mentioned previously it's not likely (albeit not 100% ruled-out) that they've done or plan to do anything with MHL.
Despite being one of the consortium's original members :(

Good point, I think it has 5Ghz 802.11n right?
That comes close (although is far from perfect) for reliable "HD" streaming.
I guess DLNA helps make it flawless? (not sure how that'd work)
Otherwise just use USB OTG.....

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N9 does have DLNA. It's just the same situation as we got with the radio on N900.

http://nokiagadgets.com/?p=2200
http://konttoristhoughts.blogspot.co...6/respect.html

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yea, so if we have DLNA most, if not ALL (theyre exceptions for a subset) of us can stop complaining about HDMI it is an extremely suitable replacement that reduces the need to carry an extra chord as you travel.

it isnt that serious, for me personally when an exceedingly effeciaent alternative is present. the KB otoh ..looks like a great device and im excited about it, well the OS more than the physical device.

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The N9 is over rated. The E6 is Da Man :D This is written on my E6 :D

So far my experience with the E6 is an exceptionally cool device for exceptionally cool dudes.

Anyway, the N9 rox :)

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Good point, I think it has 5Ghz 802.11n right?
That comes close (although is far from perfect) for reliable "HD" streaming.
I guess DLNA helps make it flawless? (not sure how that'd work)

^This?

KB's no longer a "biggy" for me (can't believe I'm saying that).
There's some really decent tiny/portable BT KB's last time I checked.
And BT4.0 FTW!! :D

But yeah, it does suck having to remember to carry such things with you.
Maybe someone will design a snap-on qwerty!? :D (still be far from perfect)

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I can't stand Symbian these days but for some reason i'm wanting E6. Not for my main phone but just to get compact smart phone that got qwerty always open for fast typing.

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Elop == Eldar same person == hurt Meego :mad:

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^ I thought it'd had been determined that those countries are missing...
Simply because Nokia stores are being shut-down in those countries...
And that it's still very likely that carrier & non-carrier distribution deals are being struck etc?

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Listen carefully to the folks speaking in the background from 640min onwards.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUw4GYzMyQ

Of course the (presumably) Nokia employee/rep. could be entirely wrong...
But there's no official output listed anywhere as far as I recall, only the fact that it does 3.5mm AV-out.

LOL sorry, I'm honestly not trying to troll! :D
Just happened to notice the speaking in background & figured it might be worthwhile sharing.
I almost didn't hear it at all...

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Nokia N9 to miss on some major markets


http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n9_ava...-news-2841.php

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The small and capacitive screen. The non-removable battery. The lack of keyboard. The lack of removable storage. The microSIM. And that's just the hardware side.

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^

Once you start getting much bigger than 4.0" it becomes impractical in size for a no. of reasons IMO.
Unless you want your smartphone to be your primary computing device, I'm not ready to throw away my laptop yet personally.

Capacitive is far better for the type of UX design/philosophy they've adopted.
I love the resistive of my n900, but it's just not ideal for what they've implemented in harmatten.

Not sure what the "biggy" is for microSIM? That's awesome IMO (dual sims etc).

No keyb sux, non-removable battery sux, as does no removable storage, but we know the reasons why they've compromised there.
If only we had the choice of another model with these features :(

I wouldn't be surprised if iFixit or similar work-out a "safe" way to dismantle it, so we can do battery replacements ourselves etc.
Keyb's a bit harder to rectify, & removable storage would be impossible to rectify.

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That's completely bogous. Neither Denmark or Norway is on that list, yet they are confirmed to get the N9 by Nokia and by operators. The case is that England, Germany, France, Spain and Holland is the only European countries to get the sea ray this year, and probably far into the next year. The N9 will enter the other countries first.