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raverpol 2011-06-25 12:58

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 1038803)
I quite like it as you only see the image for a few seconds before you unlock the screen it's not something you look at all day?

Perhaps the icons/bars could be reduced slightly in size but until I have tested it on my phone I will reserve judgement on that one.

so far i did see the Mohammad project on the phone and I really like it for its simplicity and extra features which are not screeming on he screen.

Hurrian 2011-06-25 12:59

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raverpol (Post 1038799)
no, it is not, I like the MohammadAG project. It is fresh, simple and clean and love the media player status with this simple icons without rainbows. simple icon of missed calls and msges would be enought. the colorfull lockscreen is so girlish and gayish ... what for all the background images if we can't see it because of all that huge additions

If you wanted to see the background image, you might as well use the stock lock screen.
And what rainbows are you talking about? It's a gradient, not a rainbow. If I wanted a girlish and homosexual lock screen, it would look like this:
http://goput.it/qrq.png

Also please do note the pixel density on the N900. (do you know what pixel density means?) Anyways, the things onscreen are a lot smaller on the N900.

BTW, would you like me to pay for a pink Colorware job on your N900? LOLNO that ****'s expensive, and I'm not getting paid to do design work for OSS projects I love.

msa 2011-06-25 13:00

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by droitwichgas (Post 1038668)
Out of interest why vote for a slide rather than just a simple tap?

just because its simpler doesnt mean its better (in this case)

i find a single tap too unsecure (insecure?). i bet i'll unlock my device accidently every now and then. thats rather unlikely to happen with the slide version.

patlak 2011-06-25 13:01

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1038806)
If you wanted to see the background image, you might as well use the stock lock screen.
And what rainbows are you talking about? It's a gradient, not a rainbow. If I wanted a girlish and homosexual lock screen, it would look like this:
http://goput.it/qrq.png

I like it, please put it in the repos :D :eek: :cool: :p

raverpol 2011-06-25 13:04

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1038806)
If you wanted to see the background image, you might as well use the stock lock screen.
And what rainbows are you talking about? It's a gradient, not a rainbow. If I wanted a girlish and homosexual lock screen, it would look like this:
http://goput.it/qrq.png

man, I don't want stock one cause it has no add-ons and I like the project of Muhammad and ur but in my opinion all the icons chould be more delicate and pro to have it clean. the first of ur projects were simple and then u added huge icons and tons of colors and it not looks so smooth now

Hurrian 2011-06-25 13:05

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
You know, you can always just change your icon theme, just like you changed the hicolor icon theme to something more masculine, such as the AwOken Icon Theme.

raverpol 2011-06-25 13:09

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1038810)
You know, you can always just change your icon theme, just like you changed the hicolor icon theme to something more masculine, such as the AwOken Icon Theme.

I dont think only about colors so read what I wrote again. It seems would be nice to have to options: one for people who like some add-ons and clear view and second one for people who want have add-ons and big icons and a lot of colors

maniu 2011-06-25 13:14

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heheh, you are all doing great job but as community is creating it, everybody wants something different!
I would love to help out with my vision for design but i need to study now:P

What i think is in my opinion certain is one tap for everything. Why wouldnt it be secure as you need to push physical unlock button first.
Single tap is simplest and fastest.

Hurrian 2011-06-25 13:14

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raverpol (Post 1038816)
I dont think only about colors so read what I wrote again. It seems would be nice to have to options: one for people who like some add-ons and clear view and second one for people who want have add-ons and big icons and a lot of colors

Oh. Why put in two versions, further cluttering the repos?
IIRC MAG will add a lot of switches in gconf and possibly a configuration app to turn on/off features such as the shortcuts, media player etc.
If you want the clean lock screen, MAG's planning to push an update to enhanced-lockscreen to make it better. Grab that one and pin the package, never update it. It's likely going to be the last one of the "simple" lockscreens.

Also, you could've worded your first post less flame-y. Seriously, only a Facebook Generation teenager confuses a gradient for a rainbow, calls a mockup "homosexual" and girl-oriented (hey, you know, there are WOMEN who use the N900! yes, WOMEN!)

vi_ 2011-06-25 13:18

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I wunt 9 lok screenz with widgets and a appz luncher with a map and polling all hardware all time.

raverpol 2011-06-25 13:24

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1038819)
Oh. Why put in two versions, further cluttering the repos?
IIRC MAG will add a lot of switches in gconf and possibly a configuration app to turn on/off features such as the shortcuts, media player etc.
If you want the clean lock screen, MAG's planning to push an update to enhanced-lockscreen to make it better. Grab that one and pin the package, never update it. It's likely going to be the last one of the "simple" lockscreens.

Also, you could've worded your first post less flame-y. Seriously, only a Facebook Generation teenager confuses a gradient for a rainbow, calls a mockup "homosexual" and girl-oriented (hey, you know, there are WOMEN who use the N900! yes, WOMEN!)

well I see u are not open for others opinion. I dont see anything wrong in thinking that some people would like to have simple view with add-ons.
and for ur information: it is nothing against girls or gays but only general statement when u have all of that colorfull stuff and funny icons so I dont know why u put all of that stupid Facebook Generations sth. and rainbow was a symbol only so chill out :)
I bet some of women would like to have simple ver too and trust me not all the women only think in colors man :)

I still think that first project of Muhammad was the best one if we talk about its simplicity, I would only see some more add-ons on it without huge colorfull icons, that is my opinion and u dont have to agree with it

Hurrian 2011-06-25 13:32

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Let's try with white icons, and let the community decide.
BTW, the dark overlays are needed, unless you like having a very bright background and struggle to find the icons.
Personally, since they will only appear when you have a notification, I'd the the icons to be colored to stand out.
http://goput.it/7zk.png
http://goput.it/gpg.png

raverpol 2011-06-25 13:39

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1038834)
Let's try with white icons, and let the community decide.
BTW, the dark overlays are needed, unless you like having a very bright background and struggle to find the icons.
Personally, since they will only appear when you have a notification, I'd the the icons to be colored to stand out.
http://goput.it/7zk.png
http://goput.it/gpg.png

with dark background it looks better but (in my opinion) the nottifications area should be lower and smaller. and why not more transparent stripes

Hurrian 2011-06-25 13:43

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Do note that it looks big on a computer monitor, and it will become smaller on the N900. The sizes are just about right.

The unlock bar will be easy to press since it's a large bar, but if you're moving around, it wouldn't be so easy to press the notification buttons. And no, using the stylus is completely against the point of finger-friendly (remember, MAG is not making this just for the N900, but also for other MeeGo Devices.)

zdanee 2011-06-25 13:44

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I really like Hurrians designs, but IMHO the player buttons should be way bigger and further apart. You want to operate this screen with one hand, no stylus.
A bit of N9-ish idea: No buttons but the whole music "widget" as a slider. Slide it left or right to skip track, press to play/pause.
Also I'd vote to keep the unlock slider a slider. Double-click unlock wont work with a resistive screen (or rather would work all the time in your pocket). Since this program needs to be really fast I'd also suggest to keep it low on functions, but the huge clock is a must. Amazing work as usual, MAG!

droitwichgas 2011-06-25 14:14

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zdanee (Post 1038842)
I . Double-click unlock wont work with a resistive screen (or rather would work all the time in your pocket). !

You still need to push the power button to get to the unlock screen so having one click hould be sufficent to stop unlocking by accident?

warhawk007 2011-06-25 14:37

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by raverpol (Post 1038831)
well I see u are not open for others opinion. I dont see anything wrong in thinking that some people would like to have simple view with add-ons.
and for ur information: it is nothing against girls or gays but only general statement when u have all of that colorfull stuff and funny icons so I dont know why u put all of that stupid Facebook Generations sth. and rainbow was a symbol only so chill out :)
I bet some of women would like to have simple ver too and trust me not all the women only think in colors man :)

I still think that first project of Muhammad was the best one if we talk about its simplicity, I would only see some more add-ons on it without huge colorfull icons, that is my opinion and u dont have to agree with it

Please cut it man. On what basis are you talking that Hurrian is not open for others opinion?? As far as I'm viewing this thread, he is constantly changing backgrounds and styles the whole day according to the community's likes and suggestions.
You on the other hand, do nothing and demand to be given what you like? Make it yourself bro. Dont put the blame on a member of the community.
As far as I saw me and everyone else in this thread including the creator of the project MAG himself likes his designs. So if you want a simple lockscreen, stick with the original one or borrow code from MAG and make it yourself as per your tastes. Afterall its opensource.

DarkPand0r 2011-06-25 14:41

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Firstly, Great application MAG. looks great!!
Just wondering, How can I change the default background for the Lockscreen? The current one isn't to my particular tastes.

(Opinion!! not saying it looks creap before someone shoots me...)

warhawk007 2011-06-25 14:45

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hurrian (Post 1038834)
Let's try with white icons, and let the community decide.
BTW, the dark overlays are needed, unless you like having a very bright background and struggle to find the icons.
Personally, since they will only appear when you have a notification, I'd the the icons to be colored to stand out.
http://goput.it/7zk.png
http://goput.it/gpg.png

Hi, your previous posts with the colored notifications were better and everyone loved it. And the new email notification is great too. But it would differenciate itself from the SMS icon much better if you'd use that blue color which you had initially used for the email.

everything else is perfect and I guess it satisfies almost everyone here.

eefo 2011-06-25 14:50

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ok problem solved as now every one can use it easily .
but please can anyone help sharing the way to have screens as hurrain ?
i mean what if i wanted to have swipe my own way or i want the double tap thingy ?
sorry if i am asking for too much but as hurrain changing his lock screens i guess it will be easy for all of us too but with abit explanation of how ?

sabryhm 2011-06-25 14:57

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i like it , for th E-mail u can use @ only with big font also for the icons
if i press SMS it will open direct as phone and e-mail , or i have to unlock
really you all make n900 back to future

eefo 2011-06-25 14:59

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sabryhm (Post 1038879)
i like it , for th E-mail u can use @ only with big font also for the icons
if i press SMS it will open direct as phone and e-mail , or i have to unlock
really you all make n900 back to future


can you use the sms and email options on the lock screen ?
as the initial version only has unlock date time and music player buttons ? :O

x61 2011-06-25 15:53

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How do you get to play music at the background? I guess no one is interested in knowing but I am...

MohammadAG 2011-06-25 16:00

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You can either kill the player with terminal or use Open Media Player (which I use daily since it has what I need) or use the homescreen widget to start playback.

eefo 2011-06-25 16:03

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
ohhh , i think i have my answer :P
no offence

i think for what i have asked i have to wait for it to be public :P

eefo 2011-06-25 16:08

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but yeah MAG i have a question , installed it from devel and as i have selected language english uk it should show day and stuff in english but it is showing in arabic/urdu :$

how to change it into english ?

x61 2011-06-25 16:19

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MohammadAG (Post 1038904)
You can either kill the player with terminal or use Open Media Player (which I use daily since it has what I need) or use the homescreen widget to start playback.

Thanks. How about someplayer? Is it possible to make the app play songs that are being played by someplayer? Also, can you make it that upon pressing the play button, you can start playing songs in a particular folder or playlist?

pawelstryju 2011-06-25 16:30

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
installed it and i'ts great but is possible to change background (and other things like removing icons before and after song informations)?

I think that Hurrian projects are cool, slide to unlock is good or hold to unlock.

IMO there are the best:
http://goput.it/str/6pk.png
http://goput.it/str/c6q.png
http://goput.it/str/7zk.png

EDIT: ok, i see it's not possible to change background (checked what is inside deb package)

T4UR14N 2011-06-25 16:42

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Great work MAG!

but..how do you/can you change the background ?

MohammadAG 2011-06-25 16:50

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eefo (Post 1038910)
ohhh , i think i have my answer :P
no offence

i think for what i have asked i have to wait for it to be public :P

I'm not sure what the question was :P
The background is hardcoded in the first version.

As for Arabic/Urdu, blame Qt, change your region (Settings -> Regional settings) to something like the UK.

Loz 2011-06-25 18:42

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Have to say thanks but no thanks.. I installed it and lost all my icons on desktop 4 of 9, this wouldn't restore from backup so uninstall Enhanced lockscreen and all is back... so something fishy going on but Im not gonna dig into it.. ill just live without this one.

Loz

x61 2011-06-25 18:53

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
With the app installed, when the phone rings the options to Answer or Reject or obscure. Plus, you don't know who is calling until after couple of rings...

just an observation.

Estel 2011-06-25 19:04

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
I would strongly vote for Mentalist Traceur asking of making every aspect configurable, and to NOT load disabled features into RAM / CPU usage/ whatever.

It's great idea and i would love to use it, but I'm afraid that, with all great ideas for features, we're on way to bloat it into death.

Also, we don't want our N900 to drain 100 mAh on standby, right?

MohammadAG 2011-06-25 20:08

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Besides the clock, nothing is updated (in the sense of polling - MAFW will send metadata and status regardless of the lockscreen being active or not) when the screen's locked, so CPU usage should be 0.

As for home applets disappearing, this has nothing to do with them since it's just a window coupled with a few tricks, so it doesn't touch hildon-home.

Mentalist Traceur 2011-06-25 20:10

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Well, Ubuntu was able to make their own startup/login menu with about as many features as the Gnome built-in version, but without the bloatedness. So it's doable with enough effort, that much is known.

Oh, while we're at it, with regard to Hurrian's mock-ups - I like the white icons the most. Which is why I'm saying this stuff should just be integrated into the theme structure (speaking of, MohammadAG, why did you hardcode the red background into the lockscreen [if you did; I'm trusting the guy who said you did, at least, until you say otherwise]? It's available by default in most themes [I don't think many theme makers change that one from the default, and if they did, what better background to use than that?].).

Also, for a lock screen, I personally think text is better than images. But if MohammadAG wants to go the image route, I say make text and icons in the mockups, and make both toggle-able.

wumpwoast 2011-06-25 20:48

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Look forward to trying this software. While I don't use the lockscreen often, I like the idea and the various mockups have been exciting, seeing them develop from good to terrific!

I just noticed that the volume keys' function inside the original lockscreen are tied to whatever application is foregrounded once N900 becomes unlocked. If it's just hildon-home, the volume keys control the volume as expected. However, if it's a web browser, the volume keys are changing the browser zoom from the lockscreen. Similarly, if it's the camera app, it's the camera zoom. If this new screen can play music and steal the volume keys, that will be perfect :) edit: and it does!

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There's been concerns about this screen getting unlocked too easily, and solving the problem with specific tap or double tap inputs. I prefer slide methods, since they are consistent with kinetic scrolling and other single-finger drag operations the N900 already has.

One way the lockscreen could offer many features while still being consistent with the flexibility and modularity hildon-desktop offers, is by using the lock button as a slide-to-function. For instance, in order to play a song, you drag the lock to the play button, rather than simply tapping the play button outright. To review new calls or texts, slide the lock to the icon to the envelope or the phone button. To go back to the most recent app, slide the lock onto a little "most recent app" icon. To go back to hildon-home, slide the lock onto a little "home house".

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One more brainstorm: the lockscreen, in its current mockups, has "number of calls/mails missed" etc. This actually duplicates much of the functionality of the task switcher and its missed call notifications. Perhaps rather than separate buttons for these items, there should simply be a single summary button for all of them that takes you to the task switcher, where the user can click the gold alert boxes for specific missed calls or emails.

Again, the premise here is to play to the strengths of the N900's existing interface. Our task switcher is so good, we don't necessarily need to reimplement functions on the lockscreen a la N9 or iPhone.

Cheers,
Justin

StefanoEH 2011-06-25 21:27

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TMavica (Post 1038615)
N900 is only 1 phone that I used over 1.5 year. In Hong Kong, I never seen any people use it, all of them using Iphone everywhere...

Some friends ask me why dont use Iphone, I silent and give no reponse to them. Because I know they dont understand. In Hong Kong, there is no any n900 sale anymore...

By the way, MohammadAG , you are my idol!!!

sorry for going off-topic...
Hi Hong Kong user :) It's really difficult to find a 自己人喎 :D
you're right i'm from Hong Kong too :)

okay back. yeh same as TMavica mentioned nobody use N900 in HK... but i won't give away my N900 because of MAG :D great job!!

cutehunk04 2011-06-25 21:42

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pawelstryju (Post 1038928)
installed it and i'ts great but is possible to change background (and other things like removing icons before and after song informations)?

I think that Hurrian projects are cool, slide to unlock is good or hold to unlock.

IMO there are the best:
http://goput.it/str/6pk.png
http://goput.it/str/c6q.png
http://goput.it/str/7zk.png

EDIT: ok, i see it's not possible to change background (checked what is inside deb package)

how can i too have this lock screen.... ;)

bzbnd 2011-06-25 22:05

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Off topic : can we have N9 style SCREEN SAVER

vi_ 2011-06-25 22:17

Re: [Announce] Enhanced lockscreen
 
Geeze guys, stop with the feature boat crap creep requests. You 'glance' at the lock screen to check the time, battery, missed call/im status. It isnt ANOTHER home screen to fill with crud.


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