A question about Nokia N9!
 

I was planning to buy a N9 as soon as it comes out but I am afraid if Nokia really partnerships with Microsoft all new nokia phones would have windows. Is it possible that Nokia will leave N9 and stop developing Meego as they did with our Maemo? Meego looks great but I am kinda afraid that Nokia will leave the N9 as they left N900!

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You can bet on it that Nokia won't be sticking with Meego Elop confirm this himself.
http://www.fiercewireless.com/story/...hit/2011-06-27
They much preferred a closed source OS like microsoft.

But look on the bright side. You have the community that is guarantee to take good care of your device. Best Regards :)

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Apps support wise, it would be better than N900 although still nowhere near as good as WP7/Android/iOS. I expect N9 to sell at least 5-10x more than the N900. So yeah, you will have more community devs jumping onboard as well.

At the end, I think you should be just thankful that N9 is being released at all. =)

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You're far too optimistic. It's a shame Nokia never bothers to publish numbers.

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I think it won't be a good idea to buy a N9 as it would be a dead platform. On the bright side I am very thankful to all the Dev's who didn't let our maemo die and kept making applications so we can compete with Iphone's and Andoid and I hope there is a community for N9 to take good care of our device.

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Maemo Downloads still serves about 200k downloads per day, so even N900 must've sold in some reasonable amounts.

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Nokia always say that they were surprised by the number of N900 sales. I think the number might be pretty big. So far I have met 4 other N900 users, none of which registered at this forum.

I think this is why the N950 will be so hard to get..so that Nokia can not support it and leave alpha apps on it and no one can complain. I think they wanted the N900 to be like the N950..a beta product..but sales got out of hand ^_^.

Still it doesn't make any sense..a lot of money must have been spent to design the hardware, form factor and software for the N950..why limit it only to loans and only 250? Why not release a version with N9's software to the masses? And why release a developer product for a platform they will not support? It just doesn't make any senbse..then again nothing Nokia did these past 3 years and especially this last year made any sense..to me anyway.

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A quick look at maemo.org/downloads[1] doesn't support such conclusions for community projects. As for commercial developers, keeping in mind that Nokia actively discouraged Maemo 5 development even after Qt became mainstream on it, I wouldn't expect much until other manufacturers produce MeeGo products. Ones that are not pronounced dead on arrival.


[1]Summary:

• 770: 253 packages
• N8x0: 512 packages
• N900: 658 packages
  
  Note that the vast majority of these are Hildon apps, ie not portable to Harmattan

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Is that counting only downloads via maemo.org/downloads or all repository.maemo.org access? Are those 200K downloads Fremantle-only or total? What is the extras/extras-devel ratio? Are these stats publicly available somewhere?

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lma asks for good specifics.. anything?

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Until that's separated into unique downloads, I'd tend to not believe that number to be a true metric of how many sales for the N900 there really were.

I know my N810 and N900 were re-imaged a TON, so there were definitely a ton of repeated downloads by me - I think I had redone my N810 some 17 times before selling it. More for my 770.

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Come on guys everyone on here is talking like MeeGo will be dead in the water if Nokia does not support it.
For one Nokia is not the only company investing in MeeGo far from it just google MeeGo development.The far east China ect are gonna pick this baby up big time towards the end of the year into next.
Secondly Nokia is giving away development devices for developers partly to show how easily Symbian Qt apps can be ported. Its practically no work at all. In the other N9 is here thread there is a good link to an interview with a Nokia product manager.
http://translate.google.de/translate...n9-hero-device
He said "We also ensure that the entire Austrian applications we have in store for Symbian, even at the start of MeeGo will be ready"
Quim Gil has also stated that parts of the UI will live on into future devices, that to me says Qt development all the way.
WP will start to roll at the same time and maybe it will be a success but I think after the N9 the stage will change and it won't be long before another big phone maker picks up MeeGo. Since alot of it is open I would say its highly likely that its going on already.

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I wouldn't wager my buy on the OS's life spand. My time with the N900 was great and the fact that Nokia chose to discontinue maemo didn't affect my every day use at all. If i bought the N9 it wouldn't matter whether Nokia continued meego or not cause it wont really chance the every day use. Yes i would miss some updates, but most of them would be minor bug fixes. The phones that comes out are finished products. I think people's expectations are running wild in regards to updates and companies responsibilities to maintain and send out updates/upgrades to smartphones.
Why this demand for further development and new fetures for your given phone. If one don't like the product as it stands alone, when shipped, one shouldn't buy it.
I've had a htc and now a sony ericsson since the N900 and they have both send out a few updates within the short time I've had them, mostly bug fixes and some minor tweaks, nothing big really that i couldn't have lived without and to be frank the tweaks were only eye candy. My phones didn't run smoother nor were they more responsive. I can't really tell the difference only some numbers in FW that have changed.
I would buy the N9 if i wasn't such a big mobile gamer and hope other companies will pick up meego cause i think the whole interface and multitasking is just brilliant and intuitive.

Regards Dousan...

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Nokia's Meego division has funding until June 2012 at least, it is not certain what they'll do after that. I expect they'll be able to get an update or two out before then, but I wouldn't count on anything after then. That doesn't mean Nokia will stop working on Meego by that date, it just hasn't been decided yet.

IMO, you should buy the N9 for what it is when it is released, then any updates/improvements are a bonus, I think it is a bad idea to buy something hoping its flaw will be fixed with a future update.

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Like some of the people who keep hoping that the rumored and yet unspoken "promise" of dalvik will mean they can run Android apps on the N9? :)

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despite all the "platform is dead" misery that's being circulated, don't forget that Nokia have a legal obligation (in the countries where it is officially released) to provide a minimum period of support for bug fixes and stability patching. this is usually in the vicinity of 2 years.
in all honesty, the industry is moving at such a rapid rate (technology development and software/OS release cycle) that the N9 will be redundant by that time anyway.

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well i'm gonna buy one no matter what danramos and gerbick say ! all they say now n days is just praise android.

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Correction. I praise what works best for me. And I don't praise Android really. I do praise continued support and development options that support my livelihood.

Buy what you want man. I've never said don't buy it. If you look early enough, before Elop pulled that WP7 on the same looking piece of hardware as the N9, I was wanting to buy one.

And sadly, I've been praising WP7 via Twitter. Odd? Yes. I actually feel ashamed.

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I don't think anybody here said meego would be dead. But Nokia n9 would be... Let's face it without it's publishers support it's hopeless. If you were a businessman would you tend to invest a mobile project for a platform running only 1 handset? Yeah intel maybe still supporting meego but that is not harmattan. And probably not arm version also.

And also yeah n900 may have gotten alot of compatibility but hey
Maemo = "the" Debian

While n9 is
Harmattan = "Semi" Meego

And
Intel = Meego
Harmattan = Nokia

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Good for you!

It's your money after all, but don't be so hard on them for being realistic about future of maemo. There are many here with bad experience (support, maintenance, durability , end-of-life, etc), even before the maemo products had become a target of their own CEO.

I myself would consider buying it if the price tag does not go above 300-400e. Anything higher than that is too much risk. In either case paying as high as 700e for a cell phone is a madness.

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3rd party devs? I heard a few are interested:

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Any idea if N9 supports for themes and wallpapers (not just in lock screen) ?

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This is ironic, given the criticism I keep getting for trying to stir conversation. Nobody has a helpful answer for this genuinely innocuous question?

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dont mean to be disrespectful, but who the **** cares it its a "dead" platform!?!?!? as long as it sells a decent amount we will probably have some apps... whoop de doo. as if "dead" platform means the user dies a little bit inside. seriously, i dont get all nebulous "dead platform" worry.

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Read HERE

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... you are talking about a phone where the usual solution to a problem is to "reflash" the phone ...

and how many downloads do you do each time you reflash ?

and you are also talking about a phone where users install bootloaders, additional OSes and tinker with...

.... reflashes galore !

So the 200k figure is highly inflated.

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So this is finally step 5 of 5 now? ...or is this another promise to be broken?

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read for chris sake instead or ur usuall annoying fail trolling.

either way wont be long 9 cssu appears after support its dropped.
and we get tons of s40 qtquick apps / symbian to play with.

we even have angry birds that blackberry dont have, and WP7 barely got. (and its slower than n900 version)

Re: A question about Nokia N9!
 

Dunno mate. If anything, it shows that there's people at Nokia who are willing to state that Harmattan is certainly not DOA

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Who is Chris?

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S40 Qt apps...heh. Enjoy your 'Seed price guide for Indian farmers' app.

I would not count much on Symbian apps either. They aren't exactly spilling over to N900 despite Qt allready allowing that. Symbian is dying and most developers will be moving to something that has future.

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Some bloke from the middle east. Been dead for ages so he won't be posting on this thread.... then again, another Manhattan device could be likened to the second coming.

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Are you serious? we are talking about 200000 downloads per day. Even if all maemo.org active users reflashed every day and installed 100 apps there would still be 100000 downloads unaccounted for.

Of course this applies if the 200k number is correct

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Officially, no. Though internal support for themes still exists, and could easily be enabled with a third party GUI (or you could just make theme packages that enable themselves when installed).

Consistently changing the look of the whole device with all its applications (these days, GUIs are not just a collection of a few limited building blocks anymore), will be a lot of effort of course. On the upside, this also means that your possibilities for deep customisation are vastly increased, with application specific customisations and all.

You also have a lot more control over the actual layout of elements (if you want to go there) than you did with Fremantle customisation.