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BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 21:08
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by patlak (Post 1047368)
It's not an opinion, it's a fact that Mr. Elop is Dr. Evil. The burning memo was the first straw, saying Nokia was incapable of competing with iPhone...tah dah - - N9 shocks the world with the positive feedback. Also, saying that Nokia will only be able to produce 3 MeeGo device up to 2013, there is already 2 devices ready, N9 and N950. I doubt a company like Nokia can produce only one more MeeGo device till 2013. Symbian keeps growing in sales, and now with the E6 and X7 is gonna grow even more. It's facts buddy. Now Dr. Evil has sold Nokia's soul to the devil (Microsoft) for pocket money.
Elop is NOKIA saviour. The worst thing with NOKIA was its complacency and he is shaking it things up. Nokia n900 was a joke! Nobody bought it. Maemo can not compete with apple and android. I so strongly believe that they will succeed that I bought the stock.

Everybody is looking at WP7 and NOKIA in isolation. The beauty will be engendered when the two conjugate to create a platform that will have the best components of the two. You can already see it in the Sea Ray. A beautiful phone just like N9. and it will sell big in the States.

BigBadGuber! 2011-07-08 21:09
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1047366)
Well, you can't blame anyone for thinking you are a Hard Core fanboi.

You are repeating Nokia corporate proganda to the letter. Not just usual the fanboism. I mean you are swallowing and repeating every single thing Nokia PR produces. I guess it is just a coincidence and you are a free thinker of highest quality.
It think ericsson's IQ is about 100 points above yours.

ericsson 2011-07-08 21:11
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rauha (Post 1047366)
Well, you can't blame anyone for thinking you are a Hard Core fanboi.

You are repeating Nokia corporate proganda to the letter. Not just usual the fanboism. I mean you are swallowing and repeating every single thing Nokia PR produces. I guess it is just a coincidence and you are a free thinker of highest quality.
Please. For what its worth, I have been using Opera (on my Symbian E6) and Firefox on my Ubuntu laptop writing all this "MS-love-propaganda" for the last couple of days. Because I have been installing/uninstalling stupid nonsense (and yes I mean that) MeeGo on my N900.

I believe Nokia and MS is doing the right thing, and I think they will succeed. It makes perfect sense, and they have the brute force to pull it through if necessary, which I doubt they need to do. What all you are saying makes no sense, and it makes no sense because it is only paranoid bull with no root in reality. You are also overplaying the whole deal. The deal is not much different than the deal Nokia had with Symbian, only with Symbian Nokia had much stronger obligations. The deal with Symbian was much tighter than the deal with Microsoft.

jo21 2011-07-08 21:14
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
guys nokia already confirm they are not touching wp7.

u will get the same horrible UI all other brands, the only difference nokia is suppose to get its own share of software market.

stupid too since they can't sell their QT apps on it.

well i am pretty sure nokia wp7 sales will fail, and get destroyed by android . iOS competition.

if wasn't intertal boycott even own n9 and symbian devices,.

patlak 2011-07-08 21:20
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047377)
Elop is NOKIA saviour. The worst thing with NOKIA was its complacency and he is shaking it things up. Nokia n900 was a joke! Nobody bought it. Maemo can not compete with apple and android. I so strongly believe that they will succeed that I bought the stock.

Everybody is looking at WP7 and NOKIA in isolation. The beauty will be engendered when the two conjugate to create a platform that will have the best components of the two. You can already see it in the Sea Ray. A beautiful phone just like N9. and it will sell big in the States.
Nokia N900 did really well with no advertising whatsoever. I see lots of girls with a N900 around me and more that are interested in my N900. You are just another fanboy deluded by Elop's failure of a decision (I mean for the consumer, not Microsoft).

Btw, US market is not interested in Sea Ray, they are interested in the N9 and MeeGo. Last time I heard, WP7 sales suck even in their home turf. Read up a bit more and stop putting all that trust in the WP7 deal since you bought NOK shares and the price went up 1$/share. I suggest you sell now before it gets down to 2/share unless Nokia sells the N9 in more markets ASAP.

patlak 2011-07-08 21:24
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1047382)
guys nokia already confirm they are not touching wp7.

u will get the same horrible UI all other brands, the only difference nokia is suppose to get its own share of software market.

stupid too since they can't sell their QT apps on it.

well i am pretty sure nokia wp7 sales will fail, and get destroyed by android . iOS competition.

if wasn't intertal boycott even own n9 and symbian devices,.
I doubt Nokia will even release Ovi Store on WP7. It's gonna be a last minute decision: "Nokia won't be able to transfer their apps to WP7 since there is no Qt support and we want to have the OS as Microsoft envisioned it. We will use the marketplace since it has 20000 apps already available for HTC, Nokia, Samsung, bla bla."

patlak 2011-07-08 21:29
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1047381)
Please. For what its worth, I have been using Opera (on my Symbian E6) and Firefox on my Ubuntu laptop writing all this "MS-love-propaganda" for the last couple of days. Because I have been installing/uninstalling stupid nonsense (and yes I mean that) MeeGo on my N900.
Pics or GTFO!!!

misterc 2011-07-08 21:36
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047377)
Elop is NOKIA saviour. The worst thing with NOKIA was its complacency and he is shaking it things up. Nokia n900 was a joke! Nobody bought it. Maemo can not compete with apple and android. I so strongly believe that they will succeed that I bought the stock.

Everybody is looking at WP7 and NOKIA in isolation. The beauty will be engendered when the two conjugate to create a platform that will have the best components of the two. You can already see it in the Sea Ray. A beautiful phone just like N9. and it will sell big in the States.
the only reason why the N9 won't sell big in the states is because Flop decided it wouldn't be sold there.
that's easy to foresee.
i really don't understand why the same hardware, which is hardly more then a iPhone without button on the face should do any better with a software that is getting less and less popular every day.
mind elaborating?

momcilo 2011-07-08 21:37
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigBadGuber! (Post 1047377)
Everybody is looking at WP7 and NOKIA in isolation. The beauty will be engendered when the two conjugate to create a platform that will have the best components of the two. You can already see it in the Sea Ray. A beautiful phone just like N9. and it will sell big in the States.
Such conjugation may produce either a genius or an idiot?

Which one is more likely?

patlak 2011-07-08 21:40
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by misterc (Post 1047403)
the only reason why the N9 won't sell big in the states is because Flop decided it wouldn't be sold there.
that's easy to foresee.
i really don't understand why the same hardware, which is hardly more then a iPhone without button on the face should do any better with a software that is getting less and less popular every day.
mind elaborating?
Let him be, he is filled with optimism concerning the MS-Nokia deal. He has NOK shares. :rolleyes:


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