Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

Somebody seems to have forgotten MS/DOS's heritage and why it was bought (aside from being a cheap and desperate need to quickly give SOMETHING to IBM after already selling an OS they didn't yet have, it was easy to port CP/M apps and commands onto... at least, originally).

Also... faught? I laughed. Hard. So hard, I nearly faughted. :) Couldn't be a typo--If you meant 'fought', it's a long way from o to a. :) Sorry, sorry.. it's silly, but man that's a weirdo misspelling.

Suggested reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CP/M#MS-DOS_takes_over

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

wtf dont forget ATARI on this list :)

I remember bying my first 486 PC with windows 3.1 it was a ****ing downgrade from amiga and atari. Then come first beta of wiindows 95 and killed both atari and amiga. but I am still sure ataris os had a chance to win if not Microshit had marketikng windows like hell.

no it seems history will repeat and WP kills Meego and then Android in some year as mass market device in west.

but still I will buy n9 I will never buy wp****.

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

You are starting to be creepy, very creepy. So what you are saying is that my misspellings are wrong, they are not correct misspells. Well, I'd rather be the one with incorrect misspells than the one who points out the incorrectness of the misspells any day.

Forget about CP/M. Even though CP/M vs DOS is somewhat interesting stuff, it is irrelevant in the context of mid to late 80 - early 90 computer wars.

And yes, Atari must not be forgotten.

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

I was a registered third-party developer with Atari Corp. for AtariDOS (8-bit) and GEM/TOS (ST/STe/TT/Falcon) computers. I didn't really get into Atari's MiNT OS and Commodore's AmigaDOS until later but by that time I was already dabbling in Linux and the Commie vs Atari wars were dying down and PC's were the way to go and I started to really like Windows 95. :) Thanks for mentioning Atari!

Yes, yes. We've already figured out you'd rather be in the wrong--even about CP/M and other historical and technical details. :) No need to point that out too--in fact, why WOULD you? You're weird, man. Weird. ;)

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

LOL, well what relevance is there between CP/M and DOS and late 80s - early 90s battle for market shares between Commodore, IBM PC (and clones), Atari, Apple etc ?

Besides, already back then (mid 80s) I knew where the world was heading - towards MS and PCs while others wandered aimlessly in all the wrong directions (Amiga, Apple, Atari) and for all the wrong reasons, mainly that of being fanboys.

Another thing danramos, if you don't want to discuss the topic, then at least stop responding to my posts. You are a millimetre from ending up on my ignore list (if this site got it that is).

Edit: found the ignore list, and danramos is on it :D

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

MS Windows 95 was built on MS DOS, which was culled/modified from QDOS when IBM requested a DOS system from them.

DOS remained at the core of their operating systems until the WinNT kernel became mainstream - namely Windows 2000, which has further spawned WinXP, Vista and now Windows 7 as well as their server products.

It's relevant in the same way that Berkley Software spawned the paths that lead to all BSD based UNIX out there - GNU project included (inspired it at least)... which spawned MINIX and GNU/Linux.

Now, with that nonsense aside, the battleground included Commodore, Apple (with an UI), Amiga (with an UI), IBM, Microsoft and quite a few other players - Digital, WANG, Atari, Tandy, Sinclair and many, many others. During those days, competition was the norm... not so much now.

Back to the so-called subject at hand. Elop as a trojan horse begs to ask one question... how did the board of directors truly fall for the whole "ecosystem" sale pitch from Microsoft and it's not an environment that many people in Europe utilize, support or have shown to be able to access or shown willingness to get behind.

That's like selling fire to people in Hades (note: hyperbole).

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

MS is the best thing that happened to nokia. MS made a mistake of going with nokia. Nokia is a loser

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

oh ATARI, no wonder why u so grumpy. you jump on dead platform alot.

i guess u now make apps for windows phones another burning platoform.

@gerick, board of directors is american blindfold one, the company success looks like more smart engineering from way on below them, rather their execution.

under their wing Elop sold macromedia to adobe, the guy have story of selling stuff.

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

Add everyone to your ignore list and OWN the thread! Or as someone once put it: "to tell your name - the livelong June - to an admiring bog!"

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

the board of directors fell prey to years of brainwashing by the likes of McKinsey (who painted visions of future involving profit made from ecosystem vs profits from a free open OS.) Obviously that was biased given 5he consultants' own experience.