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jo21 2011-07-20 04:10
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
stock is just a proof elop its a terrible CEO.

his complete fascination with a burning platform (windows phone 7) says he is a trojan.

gerbick 2011-07-20 04:17
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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1054487)
stock is just a proof elop its a terrible CEO.
Halfway right. The other half, if Microsoft makes a move on Nokia - beyond strategic alliance, say an OEM level partnership... that would be evidence enough for me to say that his actions and decisions were intentional.

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his complete fascination with a burning platform (windows phone 7) says he is a trojan.
Odd thing... Microsoft is gearing up to debut Windows Phone 7 Mango in Japan. Very same market that Nokia/Vertu just pulled out of recently...

ysss 2011-07-20 04:19
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
We're in a digital wasteland...

Our overlords have died...

The trolls die off and come back as zombies with different usernames...

ericsson 2011-07-20 08:38
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1054487)
stock is just a proof elop its a terrible CEO.

his complete fascination with a burning platform (windows phone 7) says he is a trojan.
The stock is proof of all the failures done in the previous years. WP will be fine. The N9 will also be fine, it will be a classic, and it will be the only high end device available from Nokia in most of the world due to MS being slow deploying their ecosystem. But S40 will save Nokia.

WP will be back with a vengeance. With Nokia in the game, there will be competition, who produces the best WP phone; Nokia, Samsung or to some extent HTC. That alone is enough to get the ball rolling. Samsung will also be better off with WP than pesky Google.

jo21 2011-07-20 08:45
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1054576)
The stock is proof of all the failures done in the previous years. WP will be fine. The N9 will also be fine, it will be a classic, and it will be the only high end device available from Nokia in most of the world due to MS being slow deploying their ecosystem. But S40 will save Nokia.

WP will be back with a vengeance. With Nokia in the game, there will be competition, who produces the best WP phone; Nokia, Samsung or to some extent HTC. That alone is enough to get the ball rolling. Samsung will also be better off with WP than pesky Google.
lets be honest here, Wp7 is failure, 1.6m over all manufacturers and such marketing its a huge failure.

nokia at much will be able to double it sales.. but they still poor 2m. at much they start moving 4m per quarter.

ericsson 2011-07-20 09:13
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
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Originally Posted by jo21 (Post 1054583)
lets be honest here, Wp7 is failure, 1.6m over all manufacturers and such marketing its a huge failure.

nokia at much will be able to double it sales.. but they still poor 2m. at much they start moving 4m per quarter.
This is all nonsense. How much did Android sell the first year? But I agree to some extent, either WP/NOK will catch on, or it won't. I definitely believe it will, but it will take some time and WP will never become the "new Android". WP (the ecosystem) is not fully available throughout the intended market before at least a year from today, and world wide it will take even longer. By that time we will see Windows 8 and windows tablets, it will be a very different game altogether than we see today.

jo21 2011-07-20 09:38
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Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1054608)
This is all nonsense. How much did Android sell the first year? But I agree to some extent, either WP/NOK will catch on, or it won't. I definitely believe it will, but it will take some time and WP will never become the "new Android". WP (the ecosystem) is not fully available throughout the intended market before at least a year from today, and world wide it will take even longer. By that time we will see Windows 8 and windows tablets, it will be a very different game altogether than we see today.
if recall droid/milesone was a success for motorola.

samsung galasy S sold more than 10m

i dont seem to understand , even own samsung BADA it outselling all wp7 manufacturers put together. thats how bad are sales.

and i remind u wp7 shareds 500m marketing campaign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlN21ebeak those ads were everywhere.

Daneel 2011-07-20 09:48
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Don't try to reason with ericsson, he was vaccinated for it when he was very little.

jo21 2011-07-20 09:50
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
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Originally Posted by Daneel (Post 1054633)
Don't try to reason with ericsson, he was vaccinated for it when he was very little.
common sense isn't that common.

poor nokia, its gotta keep bleeding marketshare.

abill_uk 2011-07-20 09:56
Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ericsson (Post 1054576)
The stock is proof of all the failures done in the previous years. WP will be fine. The N9 will also be fine, it will be a classic, and it will be the only high end device available from Nokia in most of the world due to MS being slow deploying their ecosystem. But S40 will save Nokia.

WP will be back with a vengeance. With Nokia in the game, there will be competition, who produces the best WP phone; Nokia, Samsung or to some extent HTC. That alone is enough to get the ball rolling. Samsung will also be better off with WP than pesky Google.
I am not much of a fan of yours but i agree with this post in general because now Nokia who are the worlds best hardware manufacturers, have got together with M/S, the push will be astronomical both on the hardware and software side so what we have seen to date on W7 mobiles will drastically change very soon.

Wait and see instead of hating people who talk good of M/S, i am no fan i can assure you but i am not blinded by hate !.


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