Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

Stock up over 3%

Results are lot bad, but lot better than expected.

Correct about Symbian. Elopcalypse finished it in few months.


EDIT: +4,75% now.

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LOL! I really don't know what you expected but at least the market expected far worse :D

Get a grip dude. How can you sell symbian smartphones right now?

It will be 2-3 more bad quarters for Nokia until they will start to sell more. At least they are predicting to have more cash by the end of the year ;)

I think it's lot better to sell decent products, drop to number 3, make profit and gain more ground from there.

Stock +6.52% now :D

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http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...y-who-app.html

@bbin in what world? stop dreaming, i doubt they will recover.

they were alreadying losing money and the CUT THE PRICE 15%, bringing more loses.

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You really want to link Tomi Ahonen? If you have followed him for any longer than 1 year you know that he is the worst "analyst" in the blogosphere :D

I remember him writing pieces like this: http://communities-dominate.blogs.co...t-phone-7.html

Give me a break.

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

After Elop ditched it before Nokia had anything to offer in its place? Bloody impossible. From slow and steady Symbian decline to armageddon in few months.

Where is this extra cash coming from? Apple finally paying license fees? That could explain their prediction. The first payment is going to be really big.


If they can do it yes. I don't see much hope.

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

this blog as much as yourself seem to have no idea what you are talking about.. Results are indeed better than expected by the market, see the stock for yourself.
Also cutting the price means more sales. May I remind you that nokia does not only have manufacturing costs (ie, per unit), but also fixed costs (R&D, management, factories, aso..)?
Do you have any figures on them? How could you know then that decreasing the price will decrease benefits? Or is that also your "business sense"? ;)

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he was on spot on sales this quarter.

nokia not even 20m range. and passed by both apple and samsung. and they are not even making money. 700m dollars lost.
a few months ago they were outselling both combined.
they even cut the 15% prices so dont expect any profit soon.

the dumphones are making more money than smartphones now.
and of course they can't sell symbian, after abortion elop said.

microsoft better start paying people to buy nokia smartphones, because right now wp7 are tiny.

Re: Another proof Elop is a trojan horse
 

It's just the latest of Tomi's angry rants. He did get one thing right.

"We are witnessing world record destruction of a brand"

Nokia circa 2009-2012 is going to be in many business study books as interesting example of epic downfall.

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to make it more funny.

they even lost money being pay 430m euro in royalties.

so it was far worse LOL-

tweets from analyst, and phone business people like tomi and eldar are hilarious.

nokia broke so many failure records this quarters.

and apple profits ones.

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LOL! Oh man, you're breaking my heart :D

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...76K01W20110721

You clearly have no sense of source critique.